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when series go in a different direction or just become unreadable
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Mar 28, 2018 04:20PM

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I enjoy all your messages on Facebook, we have a lot of the same feelings. The best of luck to you always.


I'm not sure what makes authors do that--the need for something more shocking to get attention, or maybe just that spending too much time in our own heads can go dark ways. I know I've had to edit some dark turns out of my own work, so I'm thinking it's in our heads... a somewhat disturbing thought.


I gave up on Maisie Dobbs several books ago, for a variety of reasons. Other series I stopped buying, but would get them from the library.
I think most long-running series have a dip in quality after a while. At a writers' conference I attended, one of the speakers said a series writer should introduce a new plot twist or direction after 6-7 books, in order to keep things fresh. But I think the writer should stay true to the original tone and style of the series.

Maybe the reality is that you should start a new series after 6-7 books. Readers love the familiarity but then we get annoyed because the books are all the same... I'm not sure I could write 20 books about the Pismawallops PTA at all, let alone without seeming to rehash things.
" I think the writer should stay true to the original tone and style of the series."
Exactly. Losing the sense of humor seems to be a common hazard (not a mystery, but I think that happened to J.K. Rowling, and I don't like the later books half so well as the first one).

It's a gamble, for the author and the publisher, deciding to break away from a winning formula, that's making money. Quite possibly a publisher wouldn't keep an author on if she didn't want to write more in a successful series.
I think self-publishers have more freedom to experiment, because they (we) are not tied into contracts and deadlines, and there isn't the time lag of a year or more between finishing a book and seeing it on sale.




That's for sure! I think she started believing all the hype out there about her. A shame. It was such a good series for the longest time.


Taking a series in a new direction -- new location, new love interest, new job, new characters, etc. -- can breathe life into a series that is getting stale and enhance a loved series. If the author is good, the transition is seamless and organic. This goes for long series, too. If the author is good at crafting mysteries and places them in well written stories, it doesn't matter how many books there are to a series. As a reader, you know each book is going to be good. I just don't want a series to go stagnant. Characters, etc. have to keep growing and evolving.
I have read so many really good series that were three and done -- which I think was a publisher issue. That is, they issue three books in a series (or six!) and if it doesn't sell as well as they wanted/thought, it's done. Most were nice, fun series and i wanted more time with the characters but was left wanting more (Jeffrey Cohen's Double Feature series; Different series by Tim Myers and his pseudonyms; Lucy Lawrence's - Jenn McKinlay - Decoupage series).
I've lost series because the author or publisher for some reason ended the series. I've missed a lot of those, too (especially, Selma Eichler's Desiree Shapiro series! I loved Desiree.). Still others have been lost because the author passed away (Elizabeth Daniels Squire's Peaches Dann series; Carol Anne O'Marie's Sister Mary Helen series). Sadly, I figure all my series will end at some point for reasons beyond my contol, so I read them -- good or bad -- while I've got them.
As for becoming unreadable... I have to admit that I read some series because I've started them and keep reading hoping they get better and/or get back on track. Some have; others not so much. I keep reading partly because I've already invested the time and partly because I like to see what happens with the characters (the main reason for reading cozies!). Others I read because I like/love the series and a bad book or two won't keep me from enjoying it overall.
So far, no series has become so unreadable that I've stopped reading it completely -- back-burnered, yes; given up, no. One good thing about series is that the more one reads and gets used to the author's style, the easier (and faster) that read gets as the series goes on. If I'm reading a series that's gone stale (for me), I more or less speed-read it so I can keep up with the characters' and their non-mystery stories and hope the next book is better. I liken it to watching a TV series that's been on forever. Not every episode is going to appeal to you, but you keep watching. You know what to expect so you can read or work while it's on and not miss anything. Who knows, the next episode could be great.




One point that came up was the fact that once you made a permanent change in a character or a relationship - marriage, divorce, death, pregnancy - you were stuck with it and now that becomes part of the character's "history" - and if readers aren't happy with it, or think it happened too soon in the series, they might be turned off.

This is my thought and feeling on all genre series.


Seven books sound good to me.


I also loved the Kay Scarpetta series for a long time, but stopped reading them for some reason. They were always books that I had to be in the mood for, but at some point I stopped ever feeling in the mood.
I think my problem was the level of anxiety I felt while reading. I really enjoyed the forensic puzzles, but as the series progressed, she was placed in ever increasing danger outside the morgue and the books became less mystery and more thriller.





I read more than cozies, but I don't enjoy a book if it becomes too graphic. There's enough of that in real life.

I read more than cozies, but I don't enjoy a book if it becomes too graphic. Ther..."
I agree with you. If I want to cry ugly tears based on tragedy, I'll watch more of the news. Not saying sometimes we don't need a good cry, but I read books to escape - which is why I love cozies or thrillers. I read all types of books/genres including non fiction, but cozies are my palette cleansing feel good books..... Even YA now is getting intense.

Me, too. They just became too much.


I agree. Even though it may be part of a series, I enjoy it when each book can be read as a standalone.
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