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message 1: by Alex (new)

Alex Carver | 4626 comments Radish has just sent out this email

Notice of removal of Objectionable Content

Dear writer,

As you know, Radish and its writers are bound by the terms of the App Store and Play Store's terms of service for third party apps such as Radish.

In order for Radish to remain available to readers and writers alike, as of March 29th, 2018, Radish will no longer house the following content in compliance with App Store terms 1.1.4 below:

- one-shot collections
- erotica shorts
- smut/PWP
- any story with explicit, graphic, or overtly erotic titles, covers, summaries, or user-added tags/themes.

What content is affected
Apple's policy around objectionable content is excerpted below:
1. Safety
When people install an app from the App Store, they want to feel confident that it’s safe to do so—that the app doesn’t contain upsetting or offensive content, won’t damage their device, and isn’t likely to cause physical harm from its use. We’ve outlined the major pitfalls below, but if you’re looking to shock and offend people, the App Store isn’t the right place for your app.

1.1 Objectionable Content
Apps should not include content that is offensive, insensitive, upsetting, intended to disgust, or in exceptionally poor taste. Examples of such content include:

1.1.1 Defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content, including references or commentary about religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups, particularly if the app is likely to humiliate, intimidate, or place a targeted individual or group in harm’s way. Professional political satirists and humorists are generally exempt from this requirement.
1.1.2 Realistic portrayals of people or animals being killed, maimed, tortured, or abused, or content that encourages violence. “Enemies” within the context of a game cannot solely target a specific race, culture, real government, corporation, or any other real entity.
1.1.3 Depictions that encourage illegal or reckless use of weapons and dangerous objects, or facilitate the purchase of firearms.
1.1.4 Overtly sexual or pornographic material, defined by Webster’s Dictionary as "explicit descriptions or displays of sexual organs or activities intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings."

(from: App Store Guidelines)
In order for the Radish app to remain available, all content housed on Radish must be compliant with the terms of the App Store and Play Store.

Works that are in violation of the terms above will no longer be housed or available for purchase on Radish after March 29, 2018.

FAQ's
My stories may be in violation, what should I do?
Please make sure your work is backed up elsewhere. Radish will not able to send you your content if it is removed from the app. For stories you write in the future, take care to avoid posting content that is in violation. You can find a shortlist of prohibited content in Writer Guidelines inside Writer's Web.

What about readers who purchased episodes?
Readers who have previously purchased your works will retain their purchases, just like any customer of an ebook or published book on other platforms.

What kind of covers are not allowed?
Per Apple's guidelines, images which contain "explicit [...] displays of sexual organs or activities intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings." This includes but is not limited to images of unclothed or partially unclothed couples or individuals in compromising or suggestive positions. Covers must be PG-13.

What kind of titles or summaries will be removed?
Titles (story titles and episode titles) or summaries that include sexually explicit or graphic terms or descriptions. Titles and summaries must be PG-13.

Can I repost removed content?
Please do not repost your content. Reposting of removed content will result in loss of your writer access.

All of my content was removed, can I still write on Radish?
We understand that many writers dip into various genres. Even if your content was removed, you are welcome to write new content that does not violate the terms and guidelines set out by App Store, Play Store, or Radish.

Thank you for cooperation in keeping Radish a safe space for writers and readers alike.

The Radish Team


message 2: by R.L. (new)

R.L. Jackson (authorrljackson) | 856 comments Mod
Yep. Just got the same email. I’m screwed too. And so are a ton of trad authors having the discussion on twitter and Facebook. This sucks


message 3: by Píaras (new)

Píaras Cíonnaoíth | 29 comments 1984


message 4: by Amy (new)

Amy Hamilton | 2560 comments It’ll be interesting to see what goes and what stays. Both my erotic novels were approved by Apple for iBooks long before I put them on Radish.


message 5: by Alex (new)

Alex Carver | 4626 comments R.L. wrote: "Yep. Just got the same email. I’m screwed too. And so are a ton of trad authors having the discussion on twitter and Facebook. This sucks"

I'm not screwed (as far as I know) but I wanted to make sure people knew about it just in case they didn't get the email.
I thought about a few people here and was concerned for their books, I personally haven't done well enough off Radish to care whether they keep my books or not.


message 6: by Carole (new)

Carole P. Roman | 4600 comments Mod
So are they saying things like Animal Farm will not be allowed?


Feels like Fahrenheit 451 is no longer science fiction.

They contacted my son's agent and asked to publish his indie work.

Sound like they are looking for new content- The agent has some old school "tame" romance authors and they wanted that kind of stuff. He asked me about it and I told him Radish is filled with more spicy material.


message 7: by Amy (new)

Amy Hamilton | 2560 comments Even their latest call for collection material started with “everyone enjoys a good laugh” and went on to say they want romantic comedies. It’s really a romance platform. It’s all you ever see on their front page. Thy done promote much of anything else.


message 8: by Alex (new)

Alex Carver | 4626 comments I can understand Apple and Radish not wanting the more extreme books with potentially illegal or excessively distasteful content, that's understandable, but since Apple has 50 Shades on their ibookstore I can't see how they can justify the possibility of removing many of the books.

It sounds to me like it's going to be another attack on indies, like there has been in the past with this kind of thing, while trad books publishing similar content remain safe.


message 9: by Amy (new)

Amy Hamilton | 2560 comments From groups I have joined I have read people are still writing the standard taboo subjects that these days wouldn’t get passed by a trad publisher. I think those are the ones they’ll target. I’ve read people being rejected by iBooks for content. I think it’s that type they’ll go after.


message 10: by Alex (new)

Alex Carver | 4626 comments Amy wrote: "From groups I have joined I have read people are still writing the standard taboo subjects that these days wouldn’t get passed by a trad publisher. I think those are the ones they’ll target. I’ve r..."

I can't blame iBooks or Amazon for trying to get rid of the taboo subjects, especially since there's supposed to have been a new bill passed in the US recently forcing companies to do more, but their methods always seem too haphazard.


message 11: by Amy (new)

Amy Hamilton | 2560 comments Has anyone had anything removed yet? Mine are still up. As I followed guidelines issued by an erotic romance publisher I don't expect them to vanish but I guess you can never tell.


message 12: by Alex (new)

Alex Carver | 4626 comments I haven't heard of anyone having books removed since the email went out, but I wouldn't like to say that that means it hasn't happened, I might not have seen the reports of it.


message 13: by Amy (new)

Amy Hamilton | 2560 comments It really is just going to be things like incest, rape for titillation (actual term used), under-aged sex, bestiality (excluding werewolves and the like) and necrophilia (excluding vampires). Radish have also taken a stand on kicking out one-shots and PWP. The last two are a matter of taste. The rest are standard guidelines the trad publishers use.


message 14: by Alex (new)

Alex Carver | 4626 comments Amy wrote: "It really is just going to be things like incest, rape for titillation (actual term used), under-aged sex, bestiality (excluding werewolves and the like) and necrophilia (excluding vampires). Radis..."

Yes, it's going to be the same rules that have applied at Amazon, iTunes and other places for a while now. I would have thought that Radish would have been excluding them from the start, so this shouldn't be much of a problem, but I do keep an eye out for any mentions of book removals and the like.

If I hear or see anything I'll make sure to post it here.


message 15: by Sarah (new)

Sarah WaterRaven (waterraven) | 3 comments Amy wrote: "Has anyone had anything removed yet? Mine are still up. As I followed guidelines issued by an erotic romance publisher I don't expect them to vanish but I guess you can never tell."

I've recently applied to Radish because I'd heard so much about it and now I'm seeing this thread while researching. @Amy, I was wondering if you could link the guidelines by the erotic romance publisher? I'm interested in reading it.


message 16: by D.J. (new)

D.J. Cooper | 1028 comments Sarah wrote: "I've recently applied to Radish because I'd heard so much about it and now I'm seeing this thread while researching. @Amy, I was wondering if you could link the guidelines by the erotic romance publisher? I'm interested in reading it."

I'..."


Hi Sarah, it's still me! I reverted back to my real name last year, Amy is my pen name. All four of my titles are still on Radish Fiction under my pen name (and still largely unread!)

One publisher I tried has their guidelines here: https://www.totallyentwinedgroup.com/...

What is not acceptable is similar for the others I tried years ago.


message 17: by Sarah (new)

Sarah WaterRaven (waterraven) | 3 comments D.J. wrote: "Sarah wrote: "I've recently applied to Radish because I'd heard so much about it and now I'm seeing this thread while researching. @Amy, I was wondering if you could link the guidelines by the erot..."

Thank you so much for your reply! I'm going to pitch a supernatural erotic thriller with BDSM elements to the app but all the works I've looked at so far (even if marked erotica) appear relatively vanilla and I began to wonder if it was a good fit.

I'm sorry to hear about your books. It seems like a real hit or miss on that app. A lot of authors left wattpad (that were doing well) or cross post there. I publish almost everywhere but apps seem to be the next evolution of publishing and I'm trying them out and seeing if anything sticks.

Again, thanks so much for the reply.


message 18: by D.J. (new)

D.J. Cooper | 1028 comments Good luck. I found it tough to promote erotica of any flavour.

I think if someone had a following on Wattpad, they could do well on Radish if they could convince their readers to switch. I had no following and therefore no readers. When I was writing for them it seemed that the only books they wanted to feature under their weekly headings had bare male torsos on the cover. That might have changed. It seemed to be an OK place for romance and hardly anything else. I haven't looked at it in months, only to check that my four titles were still up there, purely out of interest. And lastly, I was only accepted because someone recommended me. When I applied off my own back, I was rejected.


message 19: by Sarah (new)

Sarah WaterRaven (waterraven) | 3 comments D.J. wrote: "Good luck. I found it tough to promote erotica of any flavour.

I think if someone had a following on Wattpad, they could do well on Radish if they could convince their readers to switch. I had no ..."


Super sorry for the really late reply! I need to get on these forums more.

I ended up pitching one of my novels, but it was denied. It wasn't romance or erotica. I might pitch again, not sure.

I'm posting to Tapas now and really enjoying it. They allow you to monetize with ads between chapters after one of your stories gets 100 subscribers. I've got about 51 now all together and with weekly updates, I'm confident I'll get to 100. They have tons of other opportunities as well and have a very welcoming and diverse community. I think it might be the app for me :)

If I end up writing a paranormal romance, I might try Radish again, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what might happen with Tapas.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe they have open submissions right now for ideas to be turned into comics :)


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