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Anyone interested in starting our own review group?

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message 51: by Steve (last edited Apr 05, 2018 11:43AM) (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Stoney wrote: "I'm in as a reader. My only concern is getting books to readers that fall within their interest area. No sense having someone review a book they are bound not to enjoy strictly from the sub-genre perspective."

You're not the first to voice that concern, Stoney. Let me say, first, that the model we're following is that of the larger GR review groups, which have proved to work well and provide authors with reviews within a reasonable time frame. Those larger review groups allow participants to select a broad genre for a given review session, such as sci-fi/fantasy/paranormal. (So we're already narrowing the field significantly by specifying Christian Speculative Fiction!) But no further narrowing of the field of interest is permitted: part of the deal when you join such a group is an agreement to review whatever you are allocated even if it's not something you're really 'into'.

I've personally seen the benefit of that: I've had to review books that I wouldn't normally have glanced at twice, and have been surprised by how much I enjoyed them. So this can widen the reviewer's perspective. And an important principle is involved here: that as reviewers we should assess a book as objectively as possible, according to its merits as a piece of writing, not just by our gut reactions to the content matter.

But, having said that, I agree that one of our goals with this group is to try and avoid that wrong kind of reviewing by providing authors with reviewers who are already basically sympathetic towards their subject matter. All being members of the Christian Speculative Fiction group is already a big step in that direction. And in future, though there's no time for it now, we could try to narrow the field of interest further by setting up new sessions focussing on specific sub-genres of Christian Speculative Fiction.

But that, as I say, would be for the future—and we'd need to see whether we have enough books in a given sub-genre among our prospective participants. That might easily not be the case: we are not a large group as groups go.

Right now, however, for our first review session to work, everyone needs to be willing to accept that they may not get exactly the book they might have chosen to review. If someone strongly objects to the book they've been allocated they can approach me, and I'll see whether a satisfactory swap is possible. But if all our authors are to come out of this exercise in 2 months' time with an equal number of reviews—and without any two people reviewing each other (which GR does not allow)—I may need to say that no swap is possible in a particular case. I hope our participants will be broad-minded enough to understand and accept that.

And above all I hope we'll all have fun, and be able to glorify God as we do this!


message 52: by Steve (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Rondi wrote: "I would love to join! Author and reader. :)"

Tessa wrote: "I'm interested."

Hi Rondi and Tessa, and thanks for you interest in joining our review group! We're delighted to have you aboard.

I have to tell you, though, that our first session is fully subscribed. Would you mind hanging in there until our next session, which will probably be starting in June some time? I have you on the list, and will let you know when we're getting set up for that.

Until then—the Lord bless your writing and reading!

—Steve.


message 53: by Stoney (new)

Stoney deGeyter | 134 comments Thanks Steve. I understand the difficulties in trying to get the "right" book to the "right" person. I'm happy to accept whatever I'm given.


message 54: by Steve (last edited Apr 28, 2018 11:39PM) (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
OK, EVERYONE, LISTEN UP! This is an (even more) important announcement!

There's been a great response to this new review group, and we now have enough participants to start our first session—and some standing by for the second!

So here are my lists of everyone signed up, and I'd be glad if you would confirm that you are taking part, and that I've got you in the correct list:

SESSION 1, April–May

Authors-and-reviewers:

1 Lara Lee
2 Steve Pillinger
3 Lauren Salisbury
4 Justin Coogle
5 Brannon Hollingsworth
6 Glen Robinson
7 C.S. Wachter
8 Bridgett Powers
9 Kenyon Henry
10 David Bergsland
11 Guy L. Pace
12 Sean Russell

Reviewers only:
1 Stoney deGeyter
2 M.H. Elrich
3 Cassie
4 Cortez Law III
5 Ann
6 Rondi Olson


SESSION 2, June–July

Authors-and-reviewers:

1 Jan Fallon
2 Cortez Law III
3 Rondi Olson
4 John Kramer


Please can all of the above respond as soon as possible to confirm they're correctly listed. And if I've left anyone out, please let me know!

Once the participants are confirmed, we'll move to a special thread where the actual business of the review rounds will be conducted. As I mentioned elsewhere, this will not be a general discussion thread, so it will be set apart in its own folder.

Looking forward to getting started!

—Steve


message 55: by C.S. (new)

C.S. Wachter | 351 comments I'm good to go as author/reviewer.


message 56: by Justin (new)

Justin Coogle | 91 comments Confirmed


message 57: by Glen (new)

Glen Robinson (glenchen) | 172 comments Confirmed!


message 58: by Steve (last edited Apr 05, 2018 02:03PM) (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Thanks, C.S., Justin and Glen.

I've placed a check mark against your names (plus my own) in the list above.

This is how I'll acknowledge future responses.


message 59: by Lauren (new)

Lauren Salisbury | 224 comments Mod
Confirmed.


message 60: by Stoney (new)

Stoney deGeyter | 134 comments Confirmed.


message 61: by Lara (new)

Lara Lee (laraswanderings) | 509 comments Mod
Confirmed as both author and reviewer. This looks great!


message 62: by Tnkw01 (new)

Tnkw01 | 1 comments I'll be a reviewer.


message 63: by Steve (last edited Apr 05, 2018 09:36PM) (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Tnkw01 wrote: "I'll be a reviewer."

Hi, Tnkw01. It's great to have you as a reviewer!

I think, though, that you may have been under the impression there's space for more reviewers in Session 1. That's true, but not in the way you thought. To make the session work, so that all the authors get the same number of reviews and all the reviewers review the same number of books, we need either an equal number of reviewers (12), or half the number (6).

As you can see in my post above, we currently have 6 reviewers for Session 1; so adding 1 more won't work. But I can certainly add you to the list for Session 2. Would you be OK with that?


message 64: by Ann (new)

Ann | 50 comments confirm


message 65: by Cassie (new)

Cassie | 6 comments confirm


message 66: by Steve (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Many thanks to all who have confirmed they will be taking part! I've sent pm's to those who have not responded yet.

I've now opened the special, non-discussion thread I mentioned earlier, in which we'll make all the necessary practical arrangements for the two review rounds of this session; and where links to the final reviews everyone has done will be posted: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/....

So from now on we'll be 'meeting' there, not here, and this thread will eventually be closed.

I'd be grateful if all our author-reviewers could now post in the new thread the GR link to the book they would like to have reviewed in this session, as well as their own GR profile link. E.g.:
Steve Pillinger, The Mindruler.

And those who are just reviewing, could you also add your GR profile link? This will help us all to stay in touch with the right people and to review the right books!

I hope soon to set up the pairings for the two rounds so that our authors receive 3 new reviews each. This is exciting! Have fun everyone.

See you in the other thread!


message 67: by Steve (last edited Apr 07, 2018 04:48AM) (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
FURTHER MESSAGES AND PRACTICAL ARRANGEMENTS FOR REVIEW SESSION 1 WILL BE FOUND HERE: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 68: by Jeanette (new)

Jeanette | 21 comments Looks like I've missed the first round - but I am definitely interested in participating in later rounds - as author and reviewer (fair and honest reviews).


message 69: by Steve (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Hi, Jeanette, and welcome to our review group! I'm sorry you haven't made it for the first session, but I've added you to the list for session 2. I'll let you know as soon as we start getting set up for that.


message 70: by Jeanette (new)

Jeanette | 21 comments Steve wrote: "Hi, Jeanette, and welcome to our review group! I'm sorry you haven't made it for the first session, but I've added you to the list for session 2. I'll let you know as soon as we start getting set u..."

Thanks, Steve. No worries - was away the last few days. Look forward to the next session :)


message 71: by Don (new)

Don | 3 comments Steve, great idea, thank you for organizing this. I'd be interested in reviewing for the next round and in the future author/reviewer.


message 72: by Steve (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Welcome, Don! Glad to have you aboard. I've added you to the list for the next round, and I'll be in touch when we start setting up.


message 73: by J.L. (new)

J.L. Pattison | 65 comments Count me in too. Is there a link to the group to join?


message 74: by Steve (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Hi J.L., and welcome! No, there's no special link: it's all part of our Christian Speculative Fiction group, so by posting here you've joined.

I've added you to the list for our second session in June–July. I'll get in touch when we start setting up.


message 75: by Michelle (new)

Michelle R. Wood (woodmr) | 6 comments I'd be glad to read and review.


message 76: by Steve (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Hi Michelle, so glad you can join us! I have you down for our next reviewing session, starting probably in June—will be in touch when we start setting up.


message 77: by Sean (new)

Sean Elliot Russell | 330 comments Mod
Hi Steve,
I've completed your reviews. What an amazing novel! I loved it! And I'm so glad on this review forum you were my first to read. So enjoyable and the characters so good. I can't wait for the second book. Any idea when it'll be out? :)

Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Amazon (UK):
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-...

Kind regards, Steve!
Sean


message 78: by Steve (new)

Steve Pillinger | 517 comments Mod
Thanks so much, Sean! I'm glad you enjoyed it, and your enthusiastic review is a great encouragement.

Just one small matter: You've posted the links in this thread, when actually they should be in the reviewing thread: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/.... Just to keep everything together, would you mind copying this post and re-posting it there?

Thanks!


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