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I don't feel like Orlene, and the events leading to her death, carries the weight that it really needs to make me care about her and Norton. She's a boring character, existing just as an object of desire and a house wife. There isn't any tension or struggle in their relationship, and when she commits suicide I can't say that it really affected me. Their relationship was an 80's montage that left me wondering what the major plot of this story is, and when we were going to get to it.
In trying to think of how I would write their relationship differently, and I came to the conclusion that I probably wouldn't have done it at all. But if I was forced to give advice on how to make their relationship more interesting, I'd probably suggest that they face some kind of struggle together, and have a falling out during it only to come out stronger.
I feel like Orlene committing suicide makes her seem like an even weaker character. She lives this super privileged life and one tragic thing happens to her and it completely destroys her.
With Norton and Fate, there seems to be no real depth. They fuck, and that's really all there seems to be to it. Perhaps we'll get a bit more about them in the third part of the series?
In trying to think of how I would write their relationship differently, and I came to the conclusion that I probably wouldn't have done it at all. But if I was forced to give advice on how to make their relationship more interesting, I'd probably suggest that they face some kind of struggle together, and have a falling out during it only to come out stronger.
I feel like Orlene committing suicide makes her seem like an even weaker character. She lives this super privileged life and one tragic thing happens to her and it completely destroys her.
With Norton and Fate, there seems to be no real depth. They fuck, and that's really all there seems to be to it. Perhaps we'll get a bit more about them in the third part of the series?
I don't think i'm this far yet - but I hate the way Anthony writes women. It's like the men have this strong emotional sentiment to them (which I agree, seems based superficially on women's 80's sexuality), and then all of the women are flattened out in the writing. I wouldn't be surprised at all if I'm left bored with Orlene's suicide. I have no idea why these two are even together - or why the ghost "cuck" is so desperate to have an heir. I agree, if they were going to make us give a shit about Orlene they would have actually made her matter. I really feel like Anthony doesn't spend much time around women (types/experiences), so he writes them weakly. They are fantasy and he's fucking meatloaf - I will do anything for love! - and the "only thing he won't do"...is sacrifice a few thousand words to get to the point.
I get frustrated with how the reality in the book is constantly a surprise or questioned- all of his characters feel like they are watching a screen for the first time - which again, is great for exposition, but shit for the reader.
I know I just hated on the book a whole bunch - it does a lot of things I like and find creative - i'm just frustrated
Chris wrote: "I know I just hated on the book a whole bunch - it does a lot of things I like and find creative - i'm just frustrated"
It's all good. I doubt we'll have a whole lot of good things to say about the series. Though this book does get slightly better once you're through the Orlene bullshit and Norton meets Satan.
I've finished the book, so let me know when you're done. Don't feel rushed, as I'm reading 2-3 other books right now.
It's all good. I doubt we'll have a whole lot of good things to say about the series. Though this book does get slightly better once you're through the Orlene bullshit and Norton meets Satan.
I've finished the book, so let me know when you're done. Don't feel rushed, as I'm reading 2-3 other books right now.
Yeah, I slowed to a crawl on it. I think I still have a bunch to get through and I ended up moving to other texts till I was ready to come back to it. What else are you reading?
I recently read "The Subtle Art of Not Giving A Fuck," which was interesting but not terribly thought-provoking. Been reading some H.P. Lovecraft, but I can only take so much of his stuff at once. It's creepy and really well written, but there is a lot of narrative and not much action or dialog.
Also reading "A Crash Course in Python." Programming stuff. It's a really efficient and intuitive language, and has become really popular among engineers, computer scientists, and hackers. A lot of the new hobbyist microcontrollers coming out have the language built into their hardware.
This seems to be the year of non-fiction for me. I think after my Python reading, I might check out "Broad Band: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the Internet."
How about you? What kind of stuff you reading, lately?
Also reading "A Crash Course in Python." Programming stuff. It's a really efficient and intuitive language, and has become really popular among engineers, computer scientists, and hackers. A lot of the new hobbyist microcontrollers coming out have the language built into their hardware.
This seems to be the year of non-fiction for me. I think after my Python reading, I might check out "Broad Band: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the Internet."
How about you? What kind of stuff you reading, lately?
