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@ellie that’s SO TRUE. especially with popular lit? this group was partially inspired by me looking up a mlm book I adore on tumblr and the first post being an “lgbtq rec list” that had legit 20 m/m books and not ONE sapphic book or book with a trans lead or even a bi lead! and I feel like reading only m/m is really common when people have just figured it out, but I’d like it to change. I wish I’d had more f/f book lists when I was just figuring it out, you know?

I'm kind of going through a sexuality crisis :') and I'd like to read more sapphic books! (God, I love this term <3)
I'd love to write one, too :D
My personal favorites are:
Fingersmith by Sarah Waters
Into the Drowning Deep by Mira Grant
Cam Girl by Elliot Wake
None of these are ya(although the girls in Fingersmith are 17, I think?)... sorry about that... I recommend all of them, though! I've just read Cam Girl and it's like one of the most romantic things I've read ever...
As for ya, my favorites are The Miseducation of Cameron Post and Annie on My Mind :)

Exactly! I used to only read m/m, but now I just want to read as many books with f/f relationships as possible, and I know there are quite a few of those out there, but NOT ENOUGH :((( Every time I read an epic ya series now I wish I could read the same thing but with f/f in it...

I read mostly fantasy and rarely contemporary books, I guess that explains why I don't actually have a favorite f/f book? I'm a mess I know but hopefully I'll find a favorite with..."
Hi Victoria! I have some fantasy or sci fi f/f recs if you'd like! Some of my faves are The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet by Becky Chambers (scifi), Not Your Sidekick by C.B. Lee, and Girls Made of Snow and Glass by Melissa Bashardoust

Some of my fave books with an f/f relationship are
Queens of Geek by Jen Wilde,
Far From You by Tess Sharpe,
Always Human by Ari Walkingnorth (you can read this for free online),
Chameleon Moon by RoAnna Sylver
The Abyss Surrounds Us by Emily Skrutski and
Girls Made of Snow and Glass by Melissa Bashardoust.
Also, not personal favourites but some I haven't seen mentioned yet: The Melody of Me and You, Labyrinth Lost, Knit One Girl Two

So I mostly joined this group to get some recommendations, and because this seems like a really cool group.
My personal favorite book with saphic main characters is: Not your sidekick by C.B. Lee.

Some of my favorite sapphic books are:
Annie on my Mind
The Abyss Surrounds Us
Godsgrave
A&B
Princess Princess Ever After (read for free here: http://strangelykatie.com/princesspri...)
Always Human (read for free here: http://www.webtoons.com/en/romance/al...)
I'm always looking for more recs and I especially love finding new sapphic webcomics (like the two free ones I mentioned above) because I'm always in the mood for cute (and free) content :P I also think they're especially great to recommend to people who don't usually read f/f, because it's pretty easy to get into them.

Okay why do so many libraries/bookstores have few lgbt books? Like not even the really popular ones?
Even Barnes and Noble doesn't have that many, and there isn't an lgbt section. You have to search for them in the general YA or fiction sections, and you can't usually tell by a cover or title if a book has rep.

Some f/f books I read & liked recently were The Better to Kiss You With and Romancing the Inventor, and since I saw some people mention f/gq as well I also really loved Don't Feed The Trolls, Winterglass and Huntsmen.

love, ellie wrote: "Hi, I’m Ellie! Everyone’s mentioned my favorite sapphic books already, which just tells me that we do not have enough of them. I know we know that already, but people are always talking about how l..."
Y E S this is why I'm so excited for this group!! seeing all of the recs y'all are posting is so lovely and I'm happy we have this platform now (thanks to Elise)! <3

this is so so frustrating :// I'm really lucky to have access to a fairly well-stocked library, but they tend to only have the most well-known lgbtq+ books and v few sapphic ones. it makes things difficult bc I'd like to read more lesser-known titles, but I don't have much of a book-buying budget at the moment.

Some f/f books I..."
hey!! I'm ace as well and on the lookout for more ace books (esp. sapphic ones)! I'd love to know if you (or anyone else) has any recs :)

this is why I'll always support lil independent bookstores. many of them usually have dedicated lgbtq+ sections with waaay more options.

um okay that tumblr list is just fucking messed up. lgbt+ rep is not just mxm. i swear to god sometimes it feels like mxm isnt even that good rep bc it feels fetishized. ugh

i agree! i want fantasy books with lgbt+ rep and it be as casual as all the fantasy books that are somehow all straight. im currently reading obsidio, the third book in the illuminae trilogy and it has GREAT rep in terms of disability and poc but like....how u gon set a book in a future where sexuality would be accepted as fluid and not have any gays?? like? not even ONE side character? how? how does an AI have feelings seem like a thing to add but not gay people lmao
love, ellie wrote: "WV wrote: "love, ellie wrote: "Hi, I’m Ellie! Everyone’s mentioned my favorite sapphic books already, which just tells me that we do not have enough of them. I know we know that already, but people..."
All of this is so on point.
I just finished Obsidio, and there is a throwaway line that reveals one of Rhys' fellow-soldiers talks about her ex-girlfriend, but it's definitely not representation and seems to only be there so another character can make a joke about how "hot" he finds it (It annoyed me greatly)
All of this is so on point.
I just finished Obsidio, and there is a throwaway line that reveals one of Rhys' fellow-soldiers talks about her ex-girlfriend, but it's definitely not representation and seems to only be there so another character can make a joke about how "hot" he finds it (It annoyed me greatly)

That sucks. I just got Obsidio, was planning on binging the trilogy next month. I've only read Illuminae and it was awhile ago (loved it though) so was going to re-read it, then move onto Gemina and Obsidio. I don't mind lack of representation, not every book is going to have lgbt+ rep, but that just sounds...rude. To just have it there to say how "hot" he finds it.
Stephanie wrote: "Kaylin wrote: "love, ellie wrote: "WV wrote: "love, ellie wrote: "Hi, I’m Ellie! Everyone’s mentioned my favorite sapphic books already, which just tells me that we do not have enough of them. I kn..."
Just pulled my copy of the book out so I wouldn't be speaking out of turn, the actual quote is:
(view spoiler)
So I feel the need to amend my statement and point out that these are the 'bad guys' and maybe isn't there SOLEY for a joke. But it's still sadly the only mention through out the series.
(Which as a whole, is very good and one of my favorites; it just fails spectacularly in this aspect)
Just pulled my copy of the book out so I wouldn't be speaking out of turn, the actual quote is:
(view spoiler)
So I feel the need to amend my statement and point out that these are the 'bad guys' and maybe isn't there SOLEY for a joke. But it's still sadly the only mention through out the series.
(Which as a whole, is very good and one of my favorites; it just fails spectacularly in this aspect)

Yes! I feel so guilty everytime I buy a book on Amazon... which is often because I have a kindle... but ya girl is broke. Wow I am contributing to the capitalist destruction of the independent bookstore

Ah, ok, thank you. It's sad that it fails in this aspect, but glad it's still very good and one of your favorites. (view spoiler) I feel so behind, don't know how i've managed to put off Gemina so long and now I finally have all 3 books, staring at me.


I hope we get to a part where lgbt+ relationships are normalized enough that we'll just get side characters being in lgbt+ couples. And it'll be more than a throwaway line. But thank you for letting me know, Kaylin! I'll probably give it 5 stars anyway, because I love the series.
My review will be like: 4.5/5 not enough gay - ellie
IM SECONDING THE ACE BOOKS THING. NEED MORE ASPEC SAPPHIC GIRLS IMMEDIATELY THANKS
also, SAME. I’ve read so many good books about mlm, but I find it so difficult to recommend them as lgbtq books because it feels like I’ll recommend one m/m book and eight f/f books and the person asking will only read the m/m book, EVERY TIME. it’s so annoying!!
also, SAME. I’ve read so many good books about mlm, but I find it so difficult to recommend them as lgbtq books because it feels like I’ll recommend one m/m book and eight f/f books and the person asking will only read the m/m book, EVERY TIME. it’s so annoying!!

Some of my favourite sapphic books are:
- Why Be Happy When You Could Be Normal? by Jeannette Winterson
- We Are Okay by Nina LaCour
- Ash by Malinda Lo
- One Hundred Nights of Hero by Isabel Greenberg
- Juliet Takes a Breath by Gabby Rivera
- Fingersmith by Sarah Waters
- Twixt by Sarah Diemer

godsgrave by Jay kristoff.

Same; I actually feel guilty that I haven't read Nina LaCour yet. Also I will read anything Alice Oseman writes. Period. If she comes out with a sapphic book, sign me up! I feel like she'd do a really good job with it too.
WV wrote: "Hi, I'm Ola! I'm Polish and I'm planning to study Spanish and French in England :)
I'm kind of going through a sexuality crisis :') and I'd like to read more sapphic books! (God, I love this term ..."
these are some GOOD books Ola!! Into the Drowning Deep is one of my fav sapphic books, I think I'm annoying everyone else by how much I talk about it :') I haven't read Cam Girl yet, but I'm in the middle of Black Iris [same author] and it's SO AMAZING.
I'm kind of going through a sexuality crisis :') and I'd like to read more sapphic books! (God, I love this term ..."
these are some GOOD books Ola!! Into the Drowning Deep is one of my fav sapphic books, I think I'm annoying everyone else by how much I talk about it :') I haven't read Cam Girl yet, but I'm in the middle of Black Iris [same author] and it's SO AMAZING.

Same; I actually feel guilty that I haven't read Nina LaCour yet. Also I will read anything Alice Oseman writes. Period. If she comes out with a sapphic book, sign me up! I feel like she'..."
ahhhh a sapphic alice oseman book,, my heart would burst of happiness!!

it's ok if you're not super active!! we're still happy to have you and hope you can get some good recs out of this <3
also, we are okay and juliet takes a breath are two of my favs!! so so wonderful and meaningful :)))

my faves rn are how to make a wish, the apocalypse of elena mendoza, and people like us!! also all the ff stories in three sides of a heart!


I'm also currently writing a book with F/F relationships. :-)
Some of my favs include
🌈 And I Darken
🌈 Foolish Hearts
@Rachael you just named THREE of my favorite f/f reads plus one of my fav anthologies I love this [also on the anthology note HAVE YOU READ ALL OUT YET]
@Grey that’s totally okay! we’ve gotten a lot of baby sapphic participation and that’s great, honestly helping people find more queer girl books is the life goal 😊 I hope you find some good ones!
@Elizabeth welcome!! and I JUST STARTED HEARING ABOUT FOOLISH HEARTS HAVING SIDE F/F AND I’M SO EXCITED TO READ IT NOW

I'm kind of going through a sexuality crisis :') and I'd like to read more sapphic books! (God, I love..."
It was actually your review that made me read Into the Drowning Deep! I was scrolling the reviews because I wasn't sure if I wanted to buy it, your review mentioned the FF romance and that convinced me, so thanks for that :D
Aaand I'm dying to read Black Iris :)

IM OVER HALFWAY THROUGH and tbh I'm not loving it as much as I loved Three Sides of a Heart,,,,,,,, I FEEL BAD CUZ ITS SO IMPORTANT BUT SO MANY OF THE STORIES ARE JUST RUBBING ME THE WRONG WAY LOL


Foolish Hearts is SO CUTE! One of my fav reads last fall. SO CUTE.
@WV HEARING THAT SOMEONE IS READING INTO THE DROWNING DEEP BECAUSE OF ME FEELS LIKE VALIDATION IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU 💚💚
@Stella I have literally five starred ALL of those books, lmao. [Jane Unlimited my underrated fav!!] Reign of the Fallen is really fun too! not my favorite ever, but the first line is so badass and I’m super excited for book two👌👌
@Rachael I totally am not mad *throws table* not at all :) :)
[but in all honesty the later stories were better for me and the first few were a lot of threes and fours, so maybe you’ll like the later stuff better?]
[but in all honesty the later stories were better for me and the first few were a lot of threes and fours, so maybe you’ll like the later stuff better?]



Hey, Colleen! I hope you can get to know some sapphic books :-)


~Godsgrave 🌸
~Girls Made of Snow and Glass 🌸
~The Edge of the Abyss🌸
~Queens of Geek 🌸
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