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Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments Map: https://www.goodreads.com/photo/user/...

Book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...

The book linked in the topic ias the ISBN belonging to the map which is bundled with the book, the correct entry with the correct ISBN I have just created above.

The ISBN 9781780090191 belongs to the map as the image on my profile page attests to.

So the topic entry page needs to be changed.


message 2: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 26486 comments Both Amazon and Worldcat have isbn 9781780090191 listed as a 128 pages travel guide, with included map. So this probably is a case of a re-used isbn (or the map that is included has the same isbn).

Usually a re-used isbn would be treated similar to an ACE, but maps, even when they have an isbn, don't belong on GR.

These items are not books:
* unbound maps (as opposed to bound maps in an atlas)

https://www.goodreads.com/help/show/1...


message 3: by Halvor (Raknes) (last edited Feb 28, 2018 04:42AM) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments I have both the book and the map, and they have two different ISBNs as I have indicated. It is hardly likely that the 8th edition should come with two ISBNs, and that the map of one has accidentally been given the ISBN of the other 8th edition ISBN.

But of course, if you prefer, we can have two 8th editions with two different ISBNs?

ETA:

I found this paragrpah at the end of the list of non-book items:

"Note that any of these items packaged with a book count as a book, if the specific book edition with which they are packaged is not otherwise sold separately. "

Since this unbound map IS packaged with a book, it is to be treated as a book, and that warrants a page with the ISBN which is currently used by one of the two 8th editions.


message 4: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16381 comments The map is included with the book. It doesn't need a separate page. Book + map should be one record. That is what that paragraph means.


message 5: by Halvor (Raknes) (last edited Feb 28, 2018 05:00AM) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments Are you sure? It says "counts as a book", not "counts as part of the book". Looks to me that this definition warrants a separate entry for this map which has a separate ISBN.


message 6: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16381 comments I am sure. If the map was sold separately from the book, it would not be added to the database. If the map was sold together with the book, it would, as one entry for book + map. Because it makes no sense to add a separate record for each item, if separately-sold maps are not allowed in the database.

But maybe rivka can confirm.


message 7: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
lethe wrote: "If the map was sold separately from the book, it would not be added to the database. If the map was sold together with the book, it would, as one entry for book + map."

Agreed.


Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments But with respect to the 8th edition book with the same ISBN as the map, I still strongly believe this is wrong. I'll elaborate: The book comes in a transparent plastic sleeve with the map stuck inside a pocket on the back. This means that when someone picks up the book and looks at the back it will show the map with it's ISBN (image in message #1), and only when one leafs back will the book's back cover (with a different ISBN) appear.


message 9: by lethe (last edited Mar 01, 2018 09:06AM) (new)

lethe | 16381 comments Did you buy the book + map new?

(By the way, I don't think it matters much. If the map's ISBN is different from the book, it won't be added separately, since GR doesn't list maps on their own.)


message 10: by Halvor (Raknes) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments No, I didn't buy it new.


message 11: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16381 comments In that case, I don't think the map originally belonged to that particular edition but was added from another edition with the same ISBN as the map.


message 12: by Halvor (Raknes) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments How likely is that?

I'd say it's about as likely as two 8th editions being published, seemingly identical but With different ISBNs…


message 13: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Halvor wrote: "about as likely as two 8th editions being published, seemingly identical but With different ISBNs…"

Which happens all the time.


message 14: by Halvor (Raknes) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments Oh well ;-)


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