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message 1: by Tammy, Moderator (last edited Jul 22, 2014 04:43PM) (new)

Tammy Hanson (sdflash32) | 23 comments Mod
I wondering what will Walt do about Branch and will he end up in the loony-bend before the last two Episodes are over! or will he find David Ridges!


message 2: by Brenda, Co-Moderator (new)

Brenda (butterflyprincess) | 212 comments Mod
Those are excellent questions!!! Branch has certainly turned down the dark side! I wonder if it's related to the peyote or PTSD.


message 3: by Kismet (new)

Kismet | 12 comments Every time it seems like he's a good guy, he crosses another line. I wonder if his storyline will end in redemption somehow. Maybe sacrificing himself so that Martha's killer can be caught, or killed.


message 4: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) I love Branch. He is one of my favorite characters. I want to see Branch & Katy end up together.


message 5: by Tammy, Moderator (new)

Tammy Hanson (sdflash32) | 23 comments Mod
I don't know how thats gonna work out if he don't straighten up his act! hes really over the edge right now!


message 6: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) He is over the edge but I find that really hot


message 7: by Brenda, Co-Moderator (new)

Brenda (butterflyprincess) | 212 comments Mod
well in my humble opinion I really am getting tired of Branch's behavior. They need to finish this and get Branch back to his old self. I realize that he will be different but not crazy. And, yes I would like to see Katy and Branch together.


message 8: by Tammy, Moderator (new)

Tammy Hanson (sdflash32) | 23 comments Mod
I'm just hoping they hurry up and put Walt And Vic together! I want to watch them try to hide it from everyone! lol! Branch and Katy didn't hide to long! This ship need to go Cannon! lol!


message 9: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) I like Vic but her character has drifted this season. I want her more focused than mad at the world about everything. It gets old after a while.


message 10: by Tammy, Moderator (new)

Tammy Hanson (sdflash32) | 23 comments Mod
I would Love her More like she is in the book, but alas the censors would not approve! lol! And I want more of Lucian also! Hes like a wild card you never know what hes gonna do! lol!


message 11: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) i agree w/that. this is def one of my fave shows & series this season. i really swoon over walt.


message 12: by Brenda, Co-Moderator (new)

Brenda (butterflyprincess) | 212 comments Mod
Walt is one handsome dude!!!!! Craig Johnson approves of his selection to play Walt on the show.


message 13: by Susan (new)

Susan (mtnred) | 47 comments Branch is getting totally scary. I can't believe that we have only 2 episodes to clear it all up.


message 14: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Lockwood | 3 comments I hope they don't leave us hanging til next season (and there must be another season!!)


message 15: by George (new)

George | 17 comments I agree! We need several more seasons!
Spoiler alert:
Walt & Vic do get together in the books, but I hope they don't in the series - at least not for quite some time. What does everyone else think?


message 16: by Sierra (new)

Sierra I think Walt will handle Branch soon. I hope they wrap up the Branch/David Ridges story arc soon, getting tired of Branch being obsessed or having PTSD or whatever. We've seen enough of the selfish Branch in the whole Election story arc. Was hoping they would wrap up the Miller Beck/Walt's wife murder this season but I think they spent the time on the Branch/David Ridges thing instead although I'm sure it relates. Henry's plight and the wrap up of Miller Beck etc. murders will go into next season I suspect. They want Graham Greene (Malachi) back for next season. I would just like to see or get back to where all of Walt's deputies working together rather than causing Walt more problems and adding to his burdens or having issues between them. Should be Walt's Dept. united against the wrong doers of Absaroka. We got a short glimpse of Branch being a team member after the election and want to see him go back to that.


message 17: by Susan (last edited Jul 27, 2014 12:52PM) (new)

Susan (mtnred) | 47 comments Of course, we all know by now that Jacob Nighthorse is behind all of this, in cahoots with Malachi. We've had forshadowing of this in 2 episodes, one at the election debate where someone asks Walt if his wife's opposition to the Casino would affect his policing of it and in an episode earlier this season with a flashback outside his home where her car with a Casi-No bumper sticker is in the shot. Plus, Walt staring at the headdress in Jacob's office with the black feathers that look just like the one in Branch's wound. Just waiting for Walt to figure it out.


message 18: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) George wrote: "I agree! We need several more seasons!
Spoiler alert:
Walt & Vic do get together in the books, but I hope they don't in the series - at least not for quite some time. What does everyone else think?"


I agree. I think they should have that build up scene before getting together. I think that is a long ways away. They also need to really focus on Henry


message 19: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) Susan wrote: "Of course, we all know by now that Jacob Nighthorse is behind all of this, in cahoots with Malachi. We've had forshadowing of this in 2 episodes, one at the election debate where someone asks Walt..."

Of Course. Jacob Nighthorse is also getting on my nerves. LOL Somebody needs to whack him.


message 20: by Mark (new)

Mark | 34 comments Besides Jacob - I wonder who else is behind all this. We know Jacob is not Cheyenne, so who does he represent. Obviously they bought Maliki and thought they controlled the Tribal Police until Walt exposed the corruption. Mathias may not be the most lovable of people, but I think he wants to do what is best for the tribe. And has more respect for Walt than he shows or perhaps even realizes.

I just think there is more to this than just a couple locals causing problems. But the casino is the key to the whole thing.


message 21: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) Mark wrote: "Besides Jacob - I wonder who else is behind all this. We know Jacob is not Cheyenne, so who does he represent. Obviously they bought Maliki and thought they controlled the Tribal Police until Wal..."

I agree w/that. I think there is more too it that is being let on. I do like Mathias a lot & think he cares a lot for his people. He does have respect for Walt but also has to show that white men no longer have authority over them. In some retrospect. If that makes any sense.


message 22: by Susan (new)

Susan (mtnred) | 47 comments Who's the money behind Jacob Nighthorse?


message 23: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) Susan wrote: "Who's the money behind Jacob Nighthorse?"

My theory at first was it's Branch dad behind it. Anybody else wanna elaborate??


message 24: by Mark (new)

Mark | 34 comments I don't think it's Branch's Dad. He's a jerk, but he is old money, old school Wyoming. I would guess some kind of organized crime out of Denver. Too many roads lead to Denver!


message 25: by Sierra (last edited Jul 27, 2014 04:16PM) (new)

Sierra Mark wrote: "I don't think it's Branch's Dad. He's a jerk, but he is old money, old school Wyoming. I would guess some kind of organized crime out of Denver. Too many roads lead to Denver!"

I don't think it's Barlow either. He's made comments that I don't think he likes Native Americans they get in the way of his business interests which is all he cares about so he wouldn't partner up with them.

I don't know where Jacob got his money it will be interesting to see what we find out. I do think Det. Fales is involved with Jacob and Malachi. How did Det. Fales get such free rain in Absaroka being his jurisdiction is Denver without any local or WY police involved? There is some high powered statewide political connection involved or running things I feel as otherwise how could Malachi be so in control of the Tri County Jail, the Public Defenders Office to get Henry's originally assigned Public Defender removed from his case, and Malachi getting paroled. I think Walt will find a clue to the connection in the transcripts of Malachi's parole hearing that Branch obtained and gave to Walt.

If his deputies would stop having personal issues, getting kidnapped, or going psycho and the murders would slow down maybe Walt would have time to figure things out. LOL


message 26: by Mark (new)

Mark | 34 comments I'm not so sure Fales is involved other than as an investigator. I think he has an agenda against Walt, but it has more to do with what he experienced as a child in Mississippi. He has a preconceived opinion of county sheriffs from the south that he has transposed to Walt. Seems more of a pay back issue than anything more sinister. At some point I can see them working together to solve the murders of Walt's wife and Becker.


message 27: by George (new)

George | 17 comments I agree that Barlow isn't involved in the Malachi, Jacob, David Ridges business. But it would be interesting to get more of a backstory on the Connelly family - why Branch & Barlow have a contentious relationship, and why Lucian & Barlow don't get along. Also, why does Barlow hate Walt so much? is it because Branch admires him?


message 28: by Sierra (new)

Sierra George wrote: "I agree that Barlow isn't involved in the Malachi, Jacob, David Ridges business. But it would be interesting to get more of a backstory on the Connelly family - why Branch & Barlow have a contentio..."

We saw a bit of why Barlow and Lucien don't get along in season 1 when Walt was bringing Lucien back to the assisted living home. I think Lucien is more like Walt, looks out for the people, does what's right most of time, upholds the law, doesn't cave to Barlow's wishes and agenda. I bet Barlow doesn't like Walt because he knows Walt can't be bought and will do the right thing for everyone including the Cheyenne and maybe because Walt and Lucien are close and now Branch has chosen to work for Walt instead of working in the family business. Barlow seems the type it's his way or no way and if you're not with him that means your against him.


message 29: by Sierra (new)

Sierra Sue wrote: "That could be, Mark. One of the beauties of the show is that they keep us guessing with all the logical and intelligent conjectures. Nothing can be logically guessed beforehand. So well written -..."

I agree, we're probably all wrong and will be totally surprised.


message 30: by Danielle (new)

Danielle Hamilton | 35 comments Sierra wrote: "I think Walt will handle Branch soon. I hope they wrap up the Branch/David Ridges story arc soon, getting tired of Branch being obsessed or having PTSD or whatever. We've seen enough of the selfish..."

just a thought on Branch. Basically his character has not changed much. he has been rather self absorbed or impressed, in that election, and certain other things. he has occasionally shown some maturity. perhaps there is hope for him


message 31: by Danielle (new)

Danielle Hamilton | 35 comments Tammy wrote: "I'm just hoping they hurry up and put Walt And Vic together! I want to watch them try to hide it from everyone! lol! Branch and Katy didn't hide to long! This ship need to go Cannon! lol!"

agree tammy


message 32: by Susan (new)

Susan (mtnred) | 47 comments Do you think Branch will calm down now that Ridges got his just desserts from Walt? I think he needs a nice trip in a straight jacket to someplace really quiet.


message 33: by Sierra (new)

Sierra Susan wrote: "Do you think Branch will calm down now that Ridges got his just desserts from Walt? I think he needs a nice trip in a straight jacket to someplace really quiet."

It was Sam Poteet Walt killed not David Ridges I believe.


message 34: by Tammy, Moderator (new)

Tammy Hanson (sdflash32) | 23 comments Mod
Was that even Ridges? I thought that lookedmore like that Poteet guy.


message 35: by Mark (new)

Mark | 34 comments It wasn't Ridges. He is still out there. I don't think he was out at the trailer at all. It seems Jacob must have some control over the White Warrior group. He set Walt up - he is obviously realizing his scheme is falling apart. The question is was the attempt on Walt's life his idea or his handlers/boss's.


message 36: by Susan (new)

Susan (mtnred) | 47 comments I had totally missed that until it was mentioned on another thread. Wow - what a twist!


message 37: by Tammy, Moderator (new)

Tammy Hanson (sdflash32) | 23 comments Mod
I new it wasn't him cause Ridges' face has more wrinkles to it! If you remember the first season Jacob was dressed as one of the Dog solders when the children were being taken from the children's home!


message 38: by Mark (new)

Mark | 34 comments I remember -- does anyone know what nation Jacob is from? I know he isn't Cheyenne...but I don't know that I have heard what tribe he is from.


message 39: by Kismet (new)

Kismet | 12 comments Mark wrote: "I remember -- does anyone know what nation Jacob is from? I know he isn't Cheyenne...but I don't know that I have heard what tribe he is from."

Smart thought. I don't know the answer but it seems like either Cheyenne or Crow are mentioned most often.


message 40: by Mark (new)

Mark | 34 comments Jacob has said he isn't Cheyenne. The Crow reservation is up in the area, Montana I think. Last night he mentioned knowing what it is like to be alone without friends.

He manipulated it so the Cheyenne elected him onto their council even though he isn't a part of their nation.

I was just wondering if he has even mentioned what tribe he belongs to - I don't think it has been brought up.


message 41: by Sierra (new)

Sierra Mark wrote: "I remember -- does anyone know what nation Jacob is from? I know he isn't Cheyenne...but I don't know that I have heard what tribe he is from."

I don't know if he ever said what tribe. I know he said he's not enough Cheyenne to meet the blood quantum level that they set in season 1 when they had the episode about kicking people out of tribe so they wouldn't have a share in the Casino profits. I wonder how much Indian in total he actually is supposed to be.


message 42: by Mark (new)

Mark | 34 comments That was the episode he was elected on the council .... Walt mentioned how odd that was since he wasn't Cheyenne.

Jacob obviously has a lot of influence - the casino has given him that. But who is backing him.

I remember when the casinos were being built on the reservations in Iowa. All of them had backing from interests in either Las Vegas or Atlantic City. And were managed by companies off the reservation. So again, who is backing this casino in Absaroka County?


message 43: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) Mark wrote: "I don't think it's Branch's Dad. He's a jerk, but he is old money, old school Wyoming. I would guess some kind of organized crime out of Denver. Too many roads lead to Denver!"

Now that I think of it. U are completely right.


message 44: by Maranda (new)

Maranda Prigmore (anthrochick1931) I just watched last night's episode. Omg, I can't believe that only 1 more episode. I really like what Walt said to Vic. Despite the facts of me thinking Vic is annoying at the moment. LOL


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