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message 1: by Robert (new)

Robert Dallmann (robert_dallmann) | 1909 comments Mod
Matthew 24:4 - "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you ."

Jesus was highly aware of the deceptive powers of satan, and thus He WARNED the men that He personally trained to BEWARE of DECEPTION .

Most DECEIVERS appear to be genuine. They often come across as very "loving" and "caring". They make their doctrines sound Biblical... BUT they contain very SUBTLE twists and contortions of the truth... which make them LIES.

What dangerous deceptions have you encountered?
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message 2: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 632 comments 1 Robert from The Acts -Jude they say the same thing beware of false teaching, but who would believe it was Paul. He even says go by what I say as if Jesus the Son of God has no truth. If you believe I lied to you just give me the lie and I will give you the book, chapter, and verse in the K J B of 1611. Most of it will be in plain language. In this regard who do we want to believe Jesus or Paul? I believe Jesus and the Gospels.


message 3: by Robert (new)

Robert Dallmann (robert_dallmann) | 1909 comments Mod
Mickey wrote: "I believe Jesus and the Gospels..."

My response: You DO NOT!

Jesus in the Gospels says that John the Baptist is Elijah...
...YOU say that YOU are Elijah!

I believe Jesus... you believe your DECEPTION.


message 4: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 632 comments 2 St John 1:19 "---"Who art thou. 20 "---I am not the Christ" 21 "And they asked him (John the Baptist) what then? Art thou Elijah? And he said I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No." St Matthew 17:10 "And his disciples asked him (Jesus) saying, Why then say the scribes that Elijah must first come? 11" And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things." Malachi 4:5 "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord." (The reference) of 17:11 was Malachi 4:6) Believe this prophet or, "lest I come and smite the earth with a curse."

God went out of His way to save me at a cut rate Gas Station, my name must have been written in the book from the beginning of time, but I never knew that until I was 31 years old.

Both Jesus and Paul said there would be false prophets, can I asked you again, which one do you believe?


message 5: by Robert (new)

Robert Dallmann (robert_dallmann) | 1909 comments Mod
Mickey wrote: "2 St John 1:19 "---"Who art thou. 20 "---I am not the Christ" 21 "And they asked him (John the Baptist) what then? Art thou Elijah? And he said I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No...."

So Mickey chooses to believe John the Baptist MORE THAN JESUS!

John may not have known that he was the fulfillment of Elijah... JESUS DID!

Really???? You believe John MORE THAN JESUS????


message 6: by Robert (new)

Robert Dallmann (robert_dallmann) | 1909 comments Mod
Mickey wrote: "I believe Jesus and the Gospels..."

My response: You DO NOT!

Jesus in the Gospels says that John the Baptist is Elijah...
...YOU say that YOU are Elijah!

I believe Jesus... you believe your DECEPTION.


message 7: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 632 comments In the last days (before) Jesus returns the second time when Salvation is going to be to late that is when Elijah is to appear. John was on the earth at the same time Jesus was on the earth how could he be Elijah? It was the disciples that mistakenly said Elijah was John the Baptist. St Matthew 17:13 So now we have one verse left, that doesn't make any sense verse 12, and as I said before the Bible is a mess but the money is good.


message 8: by Teresa (new)

Teresa Schultz (teresaschultzauthor) | 32 comments I’m sorry but how can you quote scripture in one breath, then say the Bible is a mess in the next? That is a contradiction and makes no sense.


message 9: by Robert (new)

Robert Dallmann (robert_dallmann) | 1909 comments Mod
Mickey wrote: "In the last days (before) Jesus returns the second time when Salvation is going to be to late that is when Elijah is to appear. John was on the earth at the same time Jesus was on the earth how cou..."

Jesus told us WHO was Elijah... John the Baptist... NOT Mickey!


message 10: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 632 comments 8; Teresa it is not a contradiction Jesus said in St John 14:30 "---for the prince of this world cometh, ---. When is he going to come (and take as many people with him)? The prince of this world is Satan. Isaiah 14:13-14 But he is a spirit and needed Paul in the flesh to do his dirty work. St John 5:43 The same as Jesus did for God, to save as many as He possibly could.

How could Paul and Jesus message be the same, there wasn't anything written down at the time nor did Paul ever meet Jesus? In 43 is written that Paul came on his own that the preachers will believe. I'm not quoting any scriptures from The Acts -Jude, and even the K J B of 1611 was written by man. Look at the preachers today they dwell on there own thing, has man changed? Don't feel bad I can't get any preacher to believe me either, they just keep running off at the mouth. This morning were five different religious stations , marriage, love. Adam, believe, sanctuary, and the other day 1000 people to send $1000 dollars.

One verse says go to Jeruslem St Luke 24:47-49 so then we have the false, tongues, The Acts 2:4 that has nothing to do with the Holy Ghost. Which Gospel is this in, Luke who wrote The Acts and Luke who traveled with Paul. Luke also said go by all the Bible in 4:4. St Matthew said go by what came out of Jesus mouth in 4:4 The Bible is a mess but they say it is infallible, incapable of error, when it has been written down by man.


message 11: by Teresa (new)

Teresa Schultz (teresaschultzauthor) | 32 comments I am done responding to such nonsense.


message 12: by Robert (new)

Robert Dallmann (robert_dallmann) | 1909 comments Mod
Mickey wrote: "In the last days (before) Jesus returns the second time when Salvation is going to be to late that is when Elijah is to appear. John was on the earth at the same time Jesus was on the earth how cou..."

Jesus told us WHO was Elijah... John the Baptist... NOT Mickey!


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