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It is hard to understand how the Christian religious world is so caught up in this love thing, it distracts from other verses in the King James Bible of 1611. In Genesis 6:6 It grieved God in His heart that He made man on the earth. All but eight people on Noah's boat lived to replenish the earth. They couldn't find 10 righteous people in Sodom and Gomorrah, and both those cities were destroyed. Joshua 10:11 "---The Lord cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died : they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword. The old Testament is full of these kinds of wars. Have you read the 24th chapter of St Matthew 4 "---Take heed that no man deceive you." 7 "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall (no doubt) be famines, pestilence, earthquakes, in divers places. 8 "All these are the beginning of sorrows." 22 "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: ---" 29 "---the sun be darkened, and the moon shall (no doubt) not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven,---" 30 "---and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,---" Mark 13:2 "---these great buildings? There shall not be left one stone upon another,---" 12 "---the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son, and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death." 19 "For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created into this time, neither shall be." 23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
Yesterday there was some kind of preacher telling the world how LOVE is the answer, so your not the only one, there is money in love.
I’m curious Mickey. Do you believe in Jesus at all? Because taking human form, leaving heaven, being ridiculed, tortured, and murdered for us.... that sounds exactly like love!
Three things will last forever--faith, hope, and love--and the greatest of these is love.-1 Corinthians 13:13
Sorry Mickey. There is no money in love. If there is, then that is not love. We are taught to be like Jesus. Jesus paid the ultimate price for loving us. Love is the answer.
3 Teresa; Your rendition of love, and the reason Jesus had to die was for righteousness, so a person could become righteous to live with His Father God in heaven. I believed in one of the things that Jesus performed while He was on this earth of healing and it triggered the other Spirit mentioned in Genesis 1:2 to give me a new heart inwhich it did. Ezekiel 36:26 and St John 14:11 "Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: OR else believe me for the very WORKS SAKE." So yes I believe and love Jesus. It reads unless you are born again, and receive His Spirit whinh is the Holy Ghost you will not enter into the kingdom of God, and that has nothing to do with LOVE. 4;Diane, Paul was a false prophet St John 5:43 "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive (believe) me not: if another shall (no doubt he will) come in his own name, him ye will receive. (Believe; Paul)
5 Sylvia there is no money in truth, and love has nothing to do with becoming righteous #3 which is the answer. It reads few will find the way.
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My response: Mickey is delusional and thinks he is Elijah. Of course, Jesus told us that John the Baptist was Elijah!
As for Paul, Mickey says he was a false prophet, but the Apostle Peter calls Paul a BELOVED BROTHER and that ALL Paul's epistles are Scripture!
8 I can find, "beloved Barabus" but not "beloved Paul." In The Acts 15:37 also Mark's real name was John. I'm writting another nonfiction book, and putting some of Paul's books in it. I have never read so much slop, and Paul even had the balls to put in his slop to go by what he said, instead of go by what Jesus said, after all He was only the Son of God. 39 "and the contention was so sharp between them that they departed asunder one from the another. Barnabus and Paul. I can believe that.
Just when things get boring: Mickey pops up with his usual insanities.Sorry Diane, that's he's distracting from your post. Confrontation is a huge part of any Effective Christian ministry. Be prepared.
Mickey, please tell us about your relationship with King and Saviour: Jesus. And stop talking about yourself. Why should we believe you over the 100s of other cult leaders who make similar claims? You are no more credible than Muhammad or Joseph smith.
11 Rod; I only know how and what happened to me on a pay telephone hanging on a wall on the outside of a gasoline service station 12/1/1968 at 9pm. That should give you a clue of the condition of the churches. Muhammad something like 2 billion? followers. Joseph Smith something like 1 billion? followers, than their is Elijah with the truth and Biblically, "few will find the way;" one myself. If you have a king James Bible of 1611 you can read what happened to me and about my relationship with God and His Son Jesus. Jesus spoke in allegorical form so we have to go to Ezekiel 36:26-27 It is as clear as I could write it down, inwhich I have written it done for you before, but your mind is made up already. That is why Jesus never tried to change the mind of the religious leaders of His day.
So basically you have NO relationship with Jesus. He's just something you use for your agenda and insecurities. How much time do you spend in prayer? Why do you think prayer is essential?
You claim to have found "the way" Mickey. But what exact way is that? From the beginning of time does your Elijah moment make sense of all creation AND heaven and hell? Jesus is going to be the eternal King: are you the only person in his kingdom? That would be pathetic- how have people for thousands of years made it to YOUR Jesus' Kingdom? Based on your methods and theology?
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Perhaps you should OPEN the Bible BEFORE you open your mouth (or write your comments)... Let me do the work for you...
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2 Peter 3:15-16
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles , speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures , unto their own destruction.
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Herein lies the reason you think Paul is a false apostle... as the Apostle Peter says... you are...
UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE... and you wrestle with Paul's epistles as with the OTHER SCRIPTURES.
15 Robert I gase you showed me that was important, when I never study the slop from The Acts -Jude. Peter said in The Acts 2;38 also, be baptized in water, and you will receive the Holy Ghost. Jesus said nothing man can do will bring a man to salvation.
If you trust the authority of the book of Luke and Acts: then you must trust as it speaks about the Apostle Paul.Why don't you Mickey?
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Perhaps you should OPEN the Bible BEFORE you open your mouth (or write your comments)... Let me do the work for you...
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2 Peter 3:15-16
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles , speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures , unto their own destruction.
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Herein lies the reason you think Paul is a false apostle... as the Apostle Peter says... you are...
UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE ... and you wrestle with Paul's epistles as with the OTHER SCRIPTURES .
Mickey, It seems to me that you are taking pieces of the Bible and making them bend to your purpose. If you believe any of the Word of God, them you should believe ALL of it. If you don’t, then you invalidate the entire Bible, which means none of what you say can be true!
Also the apostle Paul teaches us how to live a moral, Christ-like life. Am I to understand that if you believe Paul to be a false prophet, then you disagree with his moral teaching? Where do you find your moral compass?
17 Rod; I know that Luke they say wrote The Acts. In my book I say that Luke can get a person in trouble. I stay away from it 99.99% of the time. In other words I like one verse. Luke 11:20 "But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you. 12/1/at 9pm 1968 and 12/30/at 6;30 am 1968. Luke has the Holy Ghost in existence before it's time. Jesus said He would send it after He goes to His Father. St John 16:7 Luke 1:28 "blessed art thou among women" speaking of Mary. St Matthew 12:50 "For whosoever shall (No doubt) do the will od my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. Luke 24:47 "And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached" It was the same as John the Baptist said, and it never worked for him, why would it work for Peter. 49 "Terry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high." Tongues has nothing to do with the Holy Ghost, and it is a up close and personal thing. Your body must be clean before the Holy Ghost will enter in your mouth as it did Jesus and me. St Matthew 3:16
19 Teresa When Lucifer was removed from God to the earth in Isaiah 14:13 "For thou hast said in thine heart (Lucifer) ---I will sit also upon the mount (all) of the congregation, (churches) 14 "---I will be like the most High. (God) Lucifer was a spirit so he needed some one like Jesus to represent him which he chose Paul. After I was saved every time I started reading The Acts, God would put a nauseous feeling on me, untill I realized there was something wrong with that part of the Bible. when I read about the way Paul said he was saved, it lift no doubt that Paul was never saved.
20 My first drink was at 14, working at Paul's Greenhouse in Rapid City, S Dak. at 15 in the bars along with smoking. You only had to be 18 in the 3.2 beer bars. When I got lucky, I would go from motel rooms to school, all through high school. "All this" I quit 12/1/1968 at 9pm about one year after getting out of the Navy when I was saved, after I left a protestant church's alter, and went to a gasoline service station. I believed in my heart that perhaps I could heal my mother and the Spirit in Genesis 1:2 removed my heart and gave me one from God. Ezekiel 36:26-27
A person must receive the Holy Ghost after your body is clean. God put a three day fast on me it was the beginning of cleaning up my body. after a vision, to get my mouth open, going to work. It came through the windshield of a 1959 Ford Thunderbird 30 days later.
I'm working on giving the truth to the over seas market, Jesus said In your own country it would be hopeless and after I have spent $50,000, I would agree with that. The preachers are not or don't know the truth, the problem is what they say, "it is in the Bible."
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Perhaps you should OPEN the Bible BEFORE you open your mouth (or write your comments)... Let me do the work for you...
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2 Peter 3:15-16
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles , speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures , unto their own destruction.
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Herein lies the reason you think Paul is a false apostle... as the Apostle Peter says... you are...
UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE ... and you wrestle with Paul's epistles as with the OTHER SCRIPTURES .
Is Mickey really any different than Benny Hinn, Sid Roth, the Crouches, Copelands, Hagins, the Bentleys... or anything on charismatic television? Not totally.Same goes for the other extreme
God is love. If you love God you will keep His commandments. God loved the world by Jesus dying according to His commandments. Again, keeping the commandments. Still, God wants to destroy all mankind, yet stops short. The flood destroyed; and later Israel was to destroy all the heathen nations. His commandments are being broken so destruction is near. He saves a remnant due to His compassion and grace. And finally, most will be perish on the last day in fulfillment of His commandments.
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My response: Joh, what is your definition of "keeping His commandments"?
The Top two are to love God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. Next, the ten commandments break these down a bit more. Then you have the rest of the Bible. Christians are married to Jesus (Romans 7); no longer under the law because Jesus fulfilled the laws requirements. Still, evidence of regeneration is obeying the commandments.
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How about this definition?
1 John 3:22-23
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments , and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ , and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
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Apparently FAITH in JESUS is what God considers "keeping His commandments".
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I would say the "evidence" of regeneration is "taking up your cross daily and dying to self. Thereby allowing Jesus to live in and through you.
That's what I meant when I posted, "Then you have the rest of the Bible."
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So, is "keeping the commandments" worshipping on the Sabbath or worshipping the Lord of the Sabbath in faith?
With faith we are able to please God. Sounds like you are looking for a debate opening. What is your answer to your question about worship?
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My answer is... "worshipping the Lord of the Sabbath in faith?"
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Here is the LAST time the Greek word for Sabbath day is used in the Bible...
Colossians 2:16-17
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day .
17 These are a SHADOW of the things that were to come; the REALITY , however, is found in Christ.
24 Rod; Those mentioned have thousands of people believing what they say. Noah had eight on his boat, and it reads in ST Matthew 24:37 "But as the days of Noah were, so shall (no doubt) also the coming of the Son of man be. Jesus coming the second time. So far I have no following so how can you put me in that group? 25 John love is what you hear daily, but God requires a person to become righteous and love has nothing to do with that.
In your message the Flood killed all but eight. They couldn't find ten that were righteous in Sodom, and in the end time or last day most people alive will be destroyed. Tell me again how much God loves mankind? Genesis 6:6 It grieved God in His heart that He made man on the earth."
What if keeping His commandments is being born again first, and now we are back to Ezekiel 36:26. He says keep my commandments or you have already received His major commandment just before he is to pray to the Father to give you the Holy Ghost or Spirit of truth, that will be in a person for all eternity. St John 14: 15-17. In 21 it reads that I will menifest myself to him. Manifast = apparent to the senses, evident, obvious, reveal, to appear to the senses. Jesus received manifestation when the Spirit (Holy Ghost) went in His mouth on His first breath, when He came up out of the water when John baptized Him. As I have said before I couldn;t write it any plainer, at what happened to me, then in Ezekiel 36:26-27. I know it is in the land of Israeli but how many ways are there to the kingdom of God, with only one God.
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You are welcome... God bless.
A good example would be...looking at a photo of someone and saying I know that person, but that doesn't mean I have an intimate relationship with that person. How can you truly have an intimate relationship with someone you see only in a photo or every once in a while, the same is with God. If we don't read His word and spend time with Him in Prayer, we don't really know just how much he really loves us.
Loving someone shouldn't come with a price tag, meaning buying or doing things to win your love. When Jesus died on the cross for our sins he paid the price already, what more can we ask? But our loving Father everyday provides for us, protects us, guides us, loves us. Why wouldn't you want to get to know him more, our creator and the creator of heaven and earth. Getting to know Him shouldn't come with a selfish agenda. Just Stop and Look around and see how blessed you are and you will see God. Make it a point today and give God your heart and soul and you will found yourself saying "Who Wouldn't Serve A Good God?