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Apparently he wasn't well making their upcoming TV show(s). Watching them has a similar effect on me.
I must admit I am quite surprised to hear that he was only just 73?
I’d never seen them till they were on Pointless where they were (surprisingly?) clever and funny.
suzysunshine7 wrote: "I must admit I am quite surprised to hear that he was only just 73?"And him being the looker of the pair an'all?
I have always thought that they looked a lot older - especially over the last few years.
..............by public request!po' baz.
Did he even get to see Rotherham's first match back in the Championship?
Well, it hasn't exactly come as much of a surprise given all of the recent Media reports - still the very sad news today is that lovely Aretha Franklin has just died at the age of 76 ;o<
suzysunshine7 wrote: "Well, it hasn't exactly come as much of a surprise given all of the recent Media reports - still the very sad news today is that lovely Aretha Franklin has just died at the age of 76 ;o<"Did you Say A Little Prayer for her? RIP Queen of Soul.
Aretha died on the 41st anniversary of Elvis Presley’s death.RIP "The King of Rock'nRoll" & "The Queen of Soul"
Former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has died aged 80 after battling a short illness.Mr Annan, who won the Nobel Peace Prize for humanitarian work, died in Hospital in Bern in Switzerland this morning with his family by his side.
The Icelandic actor, Stefan Karl Stefansson, who is best known for playing the villain, Robbie Rotten, in the popular children's TV show "LazyTown" died on the 21st of August at the age of 43. He had been battling a form of Liver Cancer for 2 years.
Ed King, guitarist who performed on the first 3 albums produced by Lynyrd Skynyrd & co wrote Sweet Home Alabama, has died aged 68, on Thursday 22nd. CoD unknown as of yet, but he had been battling lung cancer. Joined the band in 1972, left in 1975 after an altercation with ill fated Ronnie Van Zant. The band disbanded after the death of 3 members of the band in a plane crash, in 1977, including Van Zant. Ed King re-joined in 1987, after the band reformed for a reunion tour, with Van Zant's younger brother now on lead vocals.
Ed King retired in 1996, after being diagnosed with congestive heart failure, and had a heart transplant in 2011.
King also performed with the band Strawberry Alarm Clock, before joining Lynyrd Skynyrd.
I always thought Ed's background in psychedelia (Strawberry Alarm Clock) meant that he wrote and played some of the most original and inventive licks, solos and fills on the early (and best albums) where Gary Rossington and Allen Collins were very good guitarists but more limited in style (being obsessed with the British Blues boom bands like Free & Cream). Apparently he laid down the solos in Sweet Home Alabama while producer Al Kooper had to leave for a day or so. He thought the solos were out of tune, I think they're the best thing Skynyrd ever did and the band prevailed and they stayed in. He weren't no looker during his time in the band being very chubby and all the album cover shots look like he washed his hair in Mazola but boy could he play. He was probably too sensitive to cope with RVZ's drill-sergeant marshalling of the band into endless rehearsals in a hot tin shed in the Florida swamps. RIP Ed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDz2r... (that's him on the black Strat immediately to the right of RVZ pickin' out THAT intro)
Neil Simon, playwright - Sweet Charity, The Odd Couple etc. - died aged 91 of pneumonia, Sunday 12th August.
Last weekend daughter, fiance and myself watched "Barefoot In The Park" - still one of my favourite films and the young ones thought it was hilarious. Afterwards I wondered "Is Neil Simon still alive?" so I looked him up on Wiki, saw he was 91 and thought "Good on him! Still going strong!" Now I feel like maybe I put the moz on him. Sorry Neil!
I'm sure it wasn't your fault, Val. 'Barefoot in the Park' is one of my favourite films, so funny, especially Mildred Natwick.
nocheese wrote: "'Barefoot in the Park' is one of my favourite films, so funny, especially Mildred Nantwick."Mildred Natwick steals the show. Every scene she is in is a wonder!
But my favourite line is delivered by Robert Redford when he is lying in bed freezing, wearing every item of clothing he owns, and Jane Fonda is scared by someone knocking at the door. Redford: "If it's the Red Cross, let them in!"
Coincidentally, I've just got home from "An Evening with Jane Fonda". She is an amazing woman, very intelligent, very funny and still an activist at 80.
Awww, bless you, Val! ;o>Neil Simon received a Kidney Transplant from his long-time friend and publicist, Bill Evans, in 2004 - and he died after being on Life Support while hospitalized for Renal Failure. He was 91, and had also been diagnosed with Alzheimer's Disease as well, and so it sadly sounds like a much quicker death through Pneumonia was probably a far gentler and kinder ending to a long life well-lived.
Old age is not pleasant. I hope he was wealthy enough to have good care and support. Jane Fonda was talking about death tonight; hers, I mean, and she seemed very pragmatic about it. She frequently made reference to "I'm white, I'm famous and I'm rich" when comparing her life to the tribulations that many Americans face. In a very vague non-sequitur from Neil Simon to Mildred Natwick to death (Natwick appeared in the Kander & Ebb musical "70, Girls, 70"), I give you the lyrics to The Elephant Song:
Well, I think we ought to talk about death.
Old people do, you know, and so far we've avoided any mention of it.
So now I'd like to sing this death song.
Don't worry, it's not your ordinary death song. Lorraine...?
When a person dies, he's put in the ground
And his friends and relatives gather around
And he gets a little stone and he gets a little mound
Where the ivy likes to grow.
Tell me, how many graves have you seen so far?
When you're riding by in your motor-car,
You can spot where all dead people are,
But here is what I'm dying to know:
Where does an elephant go?
Where does an elephant go?
When an elephant gets so old and grey
That the poor thing's got to be put away,
Well, if somebody knows, won't somebody say
Where does an elephant go?
Where does an elephant go?
Now, when Hannibal's elephants made that track
Way over the Alps to the Roman sack,
Surely one of them had a heart attack,
Where did that elephant go?
When the Pharaohs roamed in a Biblical land
To keep those Nubians well in hand,
There were lots of elephants, I understand,
Everywhere you'd go.
There've been elephants came from Kipling's pen,
There've been elephants here since God knows when,
So a hell of a lot must have died since then,
And here is what I'm longing to know:
Where does an elephant go?
Where does an elephant go?
When a Pharaoh finally met his doom,
They would lay him out in a swanky tomb,
But an elephant takes so damn much room,
Where does an elephant go?
Listen, I'd like to tell you something that happened to me once. Every day of my life, I used to go up to the zoo, you know, in Central Park, and I especially liked to feed this elephant.
Oh, I'd buy salted peanuts and things, and I'd feed her, and she was so cute, and I really enjoyed it.
And then one day I went up there, and that elephant was missing. Missing!
Well, naturally I was so upset and nervous that I just hollered out: "Mr. Billings! Mr. Billings!" -- he's the zookeeper -- I said, "Mr. Billings, what's happened to Patsy? Where is she?"
Well, Mr. Billings said, "Patsy died. She had a coronary thrombosis and she's dead."
I said, "Where did you take her? Where did you put her? What did you have up here, the Santini Brothers or something?"
Well, suddenly Mr. Billings got very busy. He had to run off and feed the snakes and the hippopotami and everything, and there I
am, yelling after him: "Mr. Billings! Mr. Billings...
"Where did the elephant go?
Where did the elephant go?"
When the coffin's shut and the lid is firm,
A man's consigned to the pine and worm,
But what kind of box fits a pachyderm?
Where does an elephant go?
When an elephant sees his final dawn,
When an elephant's final breath is drawn,
It's a cinch there ain't no Forest Lawn --
Lorraine, think about that next time you're tickling the ivories!
Where does an elephant --
Where does an elephant --
Where does an elephant --
Where does an elephant go?
Quote from Bette Davis sums it all up"Old age ain't no place for sissies!"
And I'm with Jane Fonda, as I often say to people whom I hear complaining about something trivial with their lives "I'm not black and I'm not a woman which puts me somewhere in the top fifty percent of the human race!" I don't consider that I'm being prejudice, it's just a simple fact that the whole system is prejudiced towards white male supremacy, an endenism of our colonial heritage. There are certain sections of modern society who insist that things have improved and equality is available to all, if you can afford it that is.
From where I sit we still have a long ways to travel, bigotry and intolerance are as strong today as they ever were just perhaps more circumspect.
Racheal Bland, Welsh born BBC radio journalist & presenter with BBC Radio 5 Live & BBC North West Tonight, died peacefully today, aged 40. She had been suffering from breast cancer since 2016. Noted for her podcast, Me, You & The Big C, to raise awareness of cancer. She leaves her husband Steve, and a son of 2 years.
No age at all, ones heart goes out to her loved ones and can only hope any suffering she endured was brief, though I am unfamiliar with her work.
I'm not familiar with her work either, since I do not listen to those channels, but as you say....such a young age. She was trying to finish an autobiographical book, for her son, so he will be able to learn about his mum. Poor kid.
I thought Tony Livesey's Tribute to Rachael on the BBC Website was lovely ..."Right now Radio 5 Live is broadcasting with a broken heart. We've lost one of our brightest talents.
Actually............rewind. That's not true.
We've not lost her; she's not passed on; she's not succumbed. Rachael Bland - presenter, friend to most of us, inspiration to all - has died.
There, I've said it.
Rachael didn't hold with euphemisms; as she told me time and again and repeated frequently on her fantastically uplifting, award-winning 'You, Me & the Big C' podcast: 'I'm going to die. Why not call it what it is?'
In fact, the closer Rachael came to her death her determination to stick two fingers up to this bloody disease became gloriously disproportionate to the state of her health.
And boy, oh boy, did she take us all with her as she defied a conventional death.
In her selfless determination that others should benefit from her crappy predicament she broke taboos, raised spirits, laughed in the face of cancer and gave us a right rollicking if we didn't laugh with her.
I met Rachael on my first 5 Live show in 2010 when she held my hand on-air as I learned the ropes. We subsequently broadcast together many, many times and most recently she was my co-presenter on Drive every Friday.
She was never afraid to take the mickey, to subvert the norm and her default position was a cheeriness that has left many of us astounded as the chemo, cold cap, guinea pig pill tests and general hell that comes with cancer came and went.
The ONLY time she privately expressed any concern to me was about how her husband Steve and son Freddie would cope without her. Even then, she rolled up her sleeves, wrote a life guide for Freddie, and found a publisher.
'Tell Freddie everything,' I urged her. 'He'll want to know all about his fabulous mum.'
We here at 5 Live can certainly tell him some stories.
There was the time she stole my moment of history.
I was all set to become the first-ever voice of 5 Live from our new home in Salford. The posters had been printed, the bigwigs were lined up through the glass. I'd prepped my first words: 'One small step etc...' Then, just as I drew breath, Rachael wandered into the studio, sat down and read the news.
Hers was the first voice to be heard. She winked and walked out.
Rest in peace Rachael AND rest assured.
Your 5 Live family is remembering you with the widest of smiles. X"
Good for her, I loathe all this twee ‘passed away’, ‘passed on’ and worst of all simply ‘passed’. People die, they don’t go somewhere else. It used to be just the general public but it seems to have taken hold of even the BBC now.Just as bad is all this ‘battling’ or ‘fighting’ cancer as if people have a choice. They haven't, they take the available treatment offered, if it doesn’t work they haven’t somehow failed. Why is it just cancer? No-one talks of battling strokes, heart attacks or motor neurone disease do they?
Rant over. Sorry.
this one slipped by me! the coolest, and best named drummer ever, died in june,
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/mu...
poison ivy now only survivor of the most iconic line-up!
A few days late, but just learned that Burt Reynolds died on 6th Sept, at the age of 82. He had been suffering from heart related health issues, for a number of years.Best movie he ever did? Has to be Deliverance. Just a shame he went on to do all those awful car chase movies, afterwards! :)
I am old enough (probably Lez too) to remember him in the TV series "Riverboat" (1960) - what a spunk! My favourite film of his would be "Starting Over" (1979) where he displayed a light comedic touch a la Cary Grant or George Segal. I wish he had been offered or taken up more such roles. I also loved the '90s TV series "Evening Shade". And I do like "Boogie Nights" too - is it really 20 years old!
Fenella Fielding of ‘Carry On...’ fame has died aged 90 (!) having had a stroke 2 weeks ago.Liz Fraser (88) also stopped carrying on, on 7th September.
I always liked both of them ... RIP ... x
They don't make 'em like that any more.
For all of the staged near-naked romps in front of the Cameras, outrageously ridiculous attitudes and behaviour, almost hysterical toddler-style tantrums, and toe-curlingly cringeworthy public out-pourings ... is it just me? - or do the majority of so-called Celebrities today all seem to just be so bland and so unbelievably boring?!!I miss Characters with individual and natural looks and genuine personalities.
Lez wrote: "Good for her, I loathe all this twee ‘passed away’, ‘passed on’ and worst of all simply ‘passed’. People die, they don’t go somewhere else. It used to be just the general public but it seems to hav..."It's an interesting point, Lez Lee. I guess it is because the Dead don't care and the Living use whatever words and terms they feel safe and familiar with to deal with the subject and with their grieving processes. And some folk believe in Heaven or an Afterlife and they prefer the use of passed over and moved on as they don't believe that everything all ends with Death - and I know that some also believe that it is with Death that our 'real life' actually starts.
The Battle references, I think, stem from the difference with dealing with Cancer - Treatments go through different cycles of Medications and Treatments and each one is often considered by many to be as much of an emotional and psychological attack on, and hold-out against, the Disease than just a Surgical, Radiation, and/or Chemical one. Patients are encouraged to visualise it as a Battle to try to boost their strength, resilience and morale as they tend to suffer quite badly, and far more too, from the Treatments than from the actual Cancer at the time.
It is understandable that these particular kinds of references and terms have gone on to become standard and common-place beyond the Patients and their families and friends - but the sad down-side of then saying on Death that they 'lost the fight' or 'lost the Battle' really does not sit right or work for me either. It sounds so sweepingly callous and utterly wrong when folk have often incredibly courageously fought right up to their very last breath to try to stay alive.
The Samaritans and Mind amongst many other Organisations have just initiated a new Awareness Campaign to try to stop the now quite common-place use of the terms ... 'to commit' or 'committed Suicide' which continues with suggesting it to be a Sin or a Crime ... and to appeal to the Media as well not to be so intrusively obsessed with reporting such graphic detailing of every last thing to do with the causes/ways that such tragic Deaths have come about ...https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...
https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2018...
Oh dear, Suzy, you’re doing it too! People haven’t ‘courageously fought’, that simply isn’t possible! My husband was paralysed from the waist down after his colorectal cancer spread to his spine. What form would this ‘fighting’ take? Trying to get out of bed and walk to the loo? He asked all family and friends never to use those terms, not that we would anyway.Sorry, it’s just something I feel strongly about. I’ll delete this if if people are annoyed or upset.
When we say that people courageously fought, I think we mean that they showed incredible bravery in the face of serious illness. Mostly I've seen this in friends who were desperately ill but retained their sense of humour and concern for others in spite of what they had to bear. And I do believe that there are those who survive longer than they might otherwise have done due to their own determination and bloodymindedness.
Lez wrote: "Oh dear, Suzy, you’re doing it too! People haven’t ‘courageously fought’, that simply isn’t possible! My husband was paralysed from the waist down after his colorectal cancer spread to his spine. W..."Sorry Lez Lee, but it is how I feel about many of the Patients that I was honoured to nurse during their final days. Many made utterly unenviable decisions and often did put up an incredibly brave 'fight' to cope with their illness and to hide the worst of it from their distressed family and friends as well. It took such incredible strength and outstanding courage that would simply awe me at times.
I genuinely don't know how else to put witnessing someone hanging on to next to nothing but just sheer willpower for every single Breath that they were still taking.
suzysunshine7 wrote: "Lez wrote: "https://www.theguardian.com/society/2..."I am not disagreeing with this, Lez Lee."
;-)
Well..not a 'celebrity', but received a phone call this morning from my Mother's sister......me uncle died today, he was 68. Another victim of ****ing cancer. He never smoked, never drank...cancer gets anybody. :(
Awww, Poppet ... x ... sending my sincerest sympathies to you and to your family at this very sad time ... x x x
suzysunshine7 wrote: "Awww, Poppet ... x ... sending my sincerest sympathies to you and to your family at this very sad time ... x x x"Thanks Suzy. Had hoped he would pull through...but he's had nothing but bad luck health wise, since he retired 3 years ago. Weird really, cos he hardly ever was ill, during his working life...just all came at once in the last three years. Started with a quad bi pass, then bladder cancer, than a tumour on his spine..which finished him off.
I can see why some 'experts', that would have 'us' believe, it's better to keep working after retirement age...apparently life expectancy for those that do, is better. My dad was only 56 when he died. He got stomach cancer, just a few years after he retired early, from the civil service. But he was a drinker and smoker....although he play a lot of sports (mainly Badminton) until he retired.
I do hope the boffins will finally solve the mystery of cancer and rid the planet of it soon.
At least he's not in pain anymore.
I’m sorry to hear that Duke. My dad never had a day’s illness till he retired. Then he started having transient ischemic attacks (TIAs or mini-strokes) and died of kidney failure at 76.
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