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The Gone But Not Forgotten RIP Thread
...........boris?....................is that you?
jings, duke, if it wasn't for those who are prepared to stand up for all of us, we would all have been pumped up the shunker and left for dead by those who could not give a rat's who they stamp into the ground to achieve their 'aims'!bit harsh, no?
I'm speechless .... almost ...Those bloomin' Suffragettes ... what were they thinking? So inconsiderate. :-(
I'm not sure how much they disrupt the general public Duke, but I'd wager it's not a lot, which if that's the case then I can see no problem with people voicing their opinion.
TheFoe wrote: "I'm not sure how much they disrupt the general public Duke, but I'd wager it's not a lot, which if that's the case then I can see no problem with people voicing their opinion."You forgot that footage from the last XR outings, where angry commuters dragged some bloke down from the roof of a train where he'd climbed onto, I guess. Yeah, these demonstrators disrupt the hell out of ordinary people's lives.
After the first round of demos, I read a piece by a journalist who went into Parliament Square when the XR crowd had left, to find it in a disgusting state, stinking of urine and faeces, and garbage strewn all around. Perhaps these earth hugging types should practice what they preach. Some do, I'm sure, but far from all of them.
To date, the one big demo in London where the marchers cleared up their rubbish (and to the surprise of local authority workers actually left the streets cleaner than on a normal day) remains the hated by much of the left Countryside Alliance.
As for the guy who died, that's a tragedy for his family and friends at such a young age. His activities, whether one agrees with them or not, shouldn't enter into it.
Yeah..i 'spose it was a tad harsh.He could have been the nicest guy in the world, for all the world i know, but i really don't care much for this particular XR group. I was in Cardiff last May. On the day i was due to leave for home, i thought 'd look around the castle that morning. As i approached it...a whole group of these XR demonstrators took to blocking the main road that passes by the castle...and rooted themselves there for the whole day, at the annoyance of everybody else. I don't think was an arranged protest either, judging by the way some of them were arguing with the local bobbies, after i'd visted the castle.
I just think in this day and age....this sort of thing is outdated. Yeah, in the past....like the aforementioned Suffergettes...there wasn't many other ways to get noticed or heard back then..so i champion them for helping to bring about the changes for all women....bully for them.
But these days..you've got the World Wide Web to help get a political message across to the masses....& political lobbying groups to get the message across to the politicians, and public conferences, that the world leaders attend, like the G summits, so people like Greta Thornberg can make her stand in. All fine and dandy..and good luck to them, i say. But chaining oneself to a car, building, blocking roads, and holding those places effectively to ransom, by singing, chanting, waving placards and all the rest of it...at the inconvenience of public Joe and Jane....just isn't on in my world. That sort of thing was probably okay 40 years ago...but not today.
But as Tim says..i spose personal opinions regarding the recently deceased should be left out of this thread, so my apologies folks.
Just gets my goat, these types, sorry.
theDuke wrote: "But these days..you've got the World Wide Web to help get a political message across to the masses....& political lobbying groups to get the message across to the politicians..."A major problem with that is money buys the most and the best(?) lobbyists - big coal, big banks, big mining conglomerates, big media, big pharmaceuticals, etc. etc.
And I'm of the belief that the Russians are the best at using the WWW for getting a political message across and Mark Zuckerberg isn't going to stop them.
"Just gets my goat, these types, sorry." - roll on Gilead? Hang dissenters in public (too good for 'em?)? We all obviously need to adopt a supine pose, tug the forelock endlesly in the presence of our 'betters' and continue to assume that our political and entrepreneurial masters have our interests at heart and know what's best for the planet?Aye riiiight. More power to those with the guts to resist bad laws, divisive policies and rampant/rogue businesses which overexploit people and the environment and ratchet up our headlong rush to planetary extinction. Never mind, we'll soon find another one.
Meanwhile a talented person who cared passionately about the future of our world and tried to do something about it has died at the tragically young age of 25. Let’s not forget what this thread is about.
Very very sad news. David Roback, founding member of Mazzy Star dies at 61.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainm...
Author Clive Cussler has passed away at 88. Read a few of his adventure novels and Dirk Pitt novels. Good entertainment for sure.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainm...
The great jazz pianist, McCoy Tyner, has died aged 81. Probably best known as a member of John Coltrane's classic quartet of the early 60s, he also made recordings under his own name.https://www.theguardian.com/music/202...
Commiserations, Tech...Performance artist Genesis Breyer P-Orridge, co-founder of Throbbing Gristle and Psychic TV, died of chronic myelomonocytic leukaemia on Sat 14 Mar at the age of 70.
indeed, gordon, s/he was a unique individual.
Comedian & actor Roy Hudd, who seems to have been around forever, has died at the age of 83.
Country singer Kenny Rogers at the age of 81.
Albert Uderzo, the illustrator who created Asterix the Gaul along with writer René Goscinny, has died at the age of 91.Might be an excuse to dig all the old Asterix books out of my garage.
Asterix books were puzzlingly popular with the Asian kids in our library. Can’t imagine what they made of the jokes. They all loved most oversize, colourful books anyway and Asian boys in general were very artistic.Note my careful avoidance of the word ‘graphic’.
Sad news for some of us, the Rev David Moseley, or Gordius to Guardian crossword solvers, has died aged 89.
Julie Felix, died on 22 March 2020 aged 81. Californian born but resident in England for much of her life. Perhaps best remembered here as being the resident singer on The Frost Report in the 60s. David Frost was then instrumental in persuading the BBC to give Felix her own show on BBC2 (later transferred to BBC1). Her show was where Leonard Cohen made his first British television appearance, Felix having popularised his songs in the UK.https://www.theguardian.com/music/202...
If I Could - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhv5k... - which gave her a top 20 hit in 1970.
Cameroon born jazz saxophonist Manu Dibango, died on March 24, 2020 of covid-19, aged 86
Playwright Terrence McNally has also died (on 24.3.20) of complications from coronavirus.
Polish composer Krzysztof Penderecki has died at home in Kraków, aged 86https://thequietus.com/articles/28047...
Threnody For The Victims Of Hiroshima is perhaps his best known work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp3Bl...
Alan Merrill, all round talent and writer of "I Love Rock n Roll" passed at 69 from complications brought on by covid. Loved this when I was younger.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AT_P...
Jazz trumpeter Wallace Roney has died at the age of 59 from COVID-19 complications.I fear he won't be the last.
https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=824801424
Ellis Marsalis Jr, jazz pianist and father of Wynton and Branford, has died at the age of 85 from COVID-19 complications.I fear he won't be the last.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/01/us...
no-one thinks of the poor jazzers! compelled to contravene social distancing guidelines in order to form trios, quartets, quintets, etc, they can't help themselves!please help the jazzers be-bop safe!
Fountains of Wayne founder Adam Schlesinger has died from coronavirus at the age of 52.
Playing some FoW, under-rated little band, hamstrung by the inevitable (but still very fun) Stacy's Mom. Covidageddon will probably take a few more :(
Comedian Eddie Large has died from coronavirus caught while being treated in hospital for heart failure at the age of 78.https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...
Don't mean this in a flippant way, but I thought he'd died years ago.
no, it was only his jokes, talent and persona that died years ago! many years ago!
TheFoe wrote: "Don't mean this in a flippant way, but I thought he'd died years ago."No. He had a heart transplant several years ago. Otherwise he would have died.
Bill Withers, aged 81, of 'heart complications', last Monday 30th March.
wunt such a lovely day then!too soon?
Actor Jay Benedict, who appeared in films including Aliens, and The Dark Knight Rises, and also Emmerdale, has died of Covid-19 complications, aged 68
Singer & songwriter John Prine, from Covid-19, at the age of 73.
Gordon wrote: "Singer & songwriter John Prine, from Covid-19, at the age of 73."The one piece of news I did not want to hear! Farewell John and thank you for all the wonderful memories and songs. I'm so glad I got to see you last year. You will live on in the hearts of thousands.
“No way somebody this young can be writing so heavy,” he (Kris Kristofferson) said. “John Prine is so good, we may have to break his thumbs.”Mr. Dylan, listing his favorite songwriters in a 2009 interview, put Mr. Prine front and center. “Prine’s stuff is pure Proustian existentialism,” he said. “Midwestern mind trips to the nth degree. And he writes beautiful songs.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/ar...
Just woke up to this sad, sad news. I was hoping that once more he would beat the odds, but it wasn’t to be. This loss feels personal.
Gordon wrote: "Singer & songwriter John Prine, from Covid-19, at the age of 73."I'm not overly familiar with John's music, but sad to hear this. Given that he'd gone on for some days there was always hope he might pull through, but it wasn't to be.
John Prine, what a loss. Let's hope he gets the heaven he described on his last album.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0EiV...
"When I get to heaven, I'm gonna shake God's hand
Thank him for more blessings than one man can stand
Then I'm gonna get a guitar and start a rock-n-roll band
Check into a swell hotel; ain't the afterlife grand?
And then I'm gonna get a cocktail: vodka and ginger ale
Yeah, I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long
I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the tilt-a-whirl
'Cause this old man is goin' to town
Then as God as my witness, I'm gettin' back into showbusiness
I'm gonna open up a nightclub called "The Tree of Forgiveness"
And forgive everybody ever done me any harm
Well, I might even invite a few choice critics, those syph'litic parasitics
Buy 'em a pint of [?] and smother 'em with my charm
'Cause then I'm gonna get a cocktail: vodka and ginger ale
Yeah I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long
I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the tilt-a-whirl
Yeah this old man is goin' to town
Yeah when I get to heaven, I'm gonna take that wristwatch off my arm
What are you gonna do with time after you've bought the farm?
And them I'm gonna go find my mom and dad, and good old brother Doug
Well I bet him and cousin Jackie are still cuttin' up a rug
I wanna see all my mama's sisters, 'cause that's where all the love starts
I miss 'em all like crazy, bless their little hearts
And I always will remember these words my daddy said
He said, "Buddy, when you're dead, you're a dead pecker-head"
I hope to prove him wrong, that is, when I get to heaven
'Cause I'm gonna have a cocktail: vodka and ginger ale
Yeah I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long
I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the tilt-a-whirl
Yeah this old man is goin' to town
Yeah this old man is goin' to town"
nocheese wrote: "Shut up tech."Tech seems to have taken this rather literally.
Hope he's okay.
Gordon wrote: "nocheese wrote: "Shut up tech."Tech seems to have taken this rather literally.
Hope he's okay."
He did (we've exchanged messages); he is but he has withdrawn for an unspecified period.
Oh dear. I must admit I was struggling with his flippancy over these deaths, but didn't expect him to take offence himself.
nocheese wrote: "Oh dear. I must admit I was struggling with his flippancy over these deaths, but didn't expect him to take offence himself."Yeah, likewise, but there you go. Everyone's lines in the sand are set differently and written responses in the absence of body language and other cues are open to interpretation - one man's "That was bloody rude" is another's "Well said". Not sure there's owt to be done except to leave it to time?
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