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message 51: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments 82%

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message 52: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments 84%

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Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments 89%

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message 54: by Sandra, Moderator (last edited Feb 07, 2018 04:13AM) (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments 88%

I didn't read to much yesterday, I was tired and this story it's making hard for me to care, at this point.

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This book reminds me of The Orchid House. The topic/theme is completely different, but I felt equally annoyed with the character, the plot and the author.


message 55: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I finished, I just wanted to get it over with. I'll write down some more thoughts when I have a computer, although there's not much new to add.


message 56: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments Good. I hope to finish it today. I want to move to something else.


message 57: by Beth (new)

Beth (eparks4232) | 2556 comments So I am responding to what Peggy posted in the reporting thread, so as not to clutter that thread:

Peggy wrote: "I read Sarah's Key together with my twin Sandra.

How does this book have a 4.14 average?! It slowly went from pretty decent to terribly bad. The war-story was okay, definitely not t..."


Most people I know that read it have a similar rating to yours. They hated it.


message 58: by Beth (new)

Beth (eparks4232) | 2556 comments Rusalka wrote: "I keep reading this as "Peggy and Sandra didn't share a wombat...""

LOL!


message 59: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Interesting Beth. It has such a high average rating and a lot of my GR friends (10-15 or so) have read it and most were 4 stars. Your friends have good taste ;-)


message 60: by Cherie (last edited Feb 07, 2018 01:23PM) (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments I only got to the first part of the story, Peggy, so I cannot comment on the rating, except to say that most of this author's stories are pretty good, I guess. I picked it up after I read her book, The House I Loved. I have two of her other books on my TBR list.

You two are making me rethink if I want to pick it up again and finish it or not.


message 61: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I would continue Cherie. I think Sandra and I are a minority, and as long as you're enjoying it, why not read on? You can always put it down if you start disliking it.


message 62: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments I finished it yesterday, but since it was a snow day and school was canceled, the kids have my computer kidnapped. :)

Although it felt mostly like a 3 stars, I rated it 2 stars like you, Peggy, because the ending was just too much.

What I liked -> that the author chose to talk about an historical event very important but not very known it seems. I remember knowing about it because some other historical fiction novel (can't remember which one, too many set in WWII), but definitely I wasn't so aware of how France tried to hide it, try to make everybody forget. This was pictured very neat and clear in this novel.
I also think the 1942 premise was very good: Sarah, Michel, the key, the cupboard, the Vel' d'Hiv'. Unfortunately the 2002 time line ruined it.

What I didn't like -> Everything else. I won't repeat all he have been talking about it but (view spoiler)

I think Sarah's story should have been much more important than Julia's. I think the author tried to make them equally important. And I think she failed and ended making Julia's much more relevant.

Also, the writing is poor.


message 63: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments I agree with Peggy, Cherie. A 4.14 rating is very high. A GR friend rated it 5 stars, and in her review she points she loved all the plot point I hated, so I guess it is very subjective.


message 64: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments Beth wrote: "So I am responding to what Peggy posted in the reporting thread, so as not to clutter that"

I was thinking that since the book includes a very sad event, rating it low might feel like saying you don't care about said event. I actually think that event was a great premise and strong point in the story, ruined by everything else. But it's just my opinion. And my twin's it seems. :)


message 66: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Sandra wrote: "Beth wrote: "So I am responding to what Peggy posted in the reporting thread, so as not to clutter that"

I was thinking that since the book includes a very sad event, rating it low might feel like..."


Very good point. I was in doubt between 2 and 3 stars too, because I did enjoy (not enjoy enjoy, but you know what I mean) the war story and I think if all the book was about that, it could have gotten 4 stars. I also thought the premise was very good and it was great to learn more about this part of French history.

The 2002 story just ruined too much. It was tolerable in the beginning but just got so bad in the end. And then so much of the book was set in the present.. It would have indeed been much better if there had been more about 1942 and the following years and Sarah, and a lot less about the present. Like only a chapter now and then, about Julia the journalist and not Julia the whining, selfish, annoying French American. It's a shame really.


message 67: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Thanks for the list Sandra. I've read Suite Française so maybe I came across Vel d'Hiv in that one.

I have Those Who Save Us on my tbr. Interesting that it's on the list, as from the blurb it seems to be set in Germany.


message 68: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I enjoyed being your twin Sandra :)


message 69: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments Peggy wrote: "Thanks for the list Sandra. I've read Suite Française so maybe I came across Vel d'Hiv in that one.

I have Those Who Save Us on my tbr. Interesting that it's on the list..."


Yes, according to the blurb it is set in Germany. Strange. I checked all the others and all of them are about Vichy France, not only the Vel d'Hiv. All of them look interesting. French Children of the Holocaust is 1900 pages long, so I am not adding it (my library doesn't hold it) but it seems very interesting. It is not only a recount of the events in France, but also a huge recollection of photos, newspapers cuttings, official documents, etc.


message 70: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments Peggy wrote: "I enjoyed being your twin Sandra :)"

I also enjoyed this challenge and being your twin. :)


message 71: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I just read this on the news: https://www.theguardian.com/world/201...

A 85-year old holocaust survivor was stabbed to death and burnt in Paris last Friday, and it's thought to be an antisemitic attack. She escaped the Vel d'Hiv round up in 1942.

The news is sad and shocking in any case, but having read so much about Vel d'Hiv in the book only two months ago makes it hit me even harder.


message 72: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments I saw this news yesterday, but I didn't realize she was a survivor of the Vel d'Hiv. That is horrible. It definitely makes you feel worse once you know more about the story.


message 73: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments I hadn't heard that. It is very sad.


message 74: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19142 comments Oh, Peggy, that's heartbreaking. People can be so awful.

I saw that you didn't much care for the book. Was it similar to The Boy in the Striped Pajamas? I remember you questioning that early on. We were both in the minority on that one. I don't understand those high ratings at all. I picked this one up a while back based on all the good reviews, but now I'm not so sure about it.


message 75: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments How horrible! The world really has gone off the deep end 😞


message 76: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments @Kristie: the war-part of the story wasn't bad at all. But there's also a present-day story that takes up about 2/3 of the book, and that was one of the worst I ever read. I think Sandra felt the same. Most people are positive though!


message 77: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments Yes, the present day story line is very frustrating and boring. It is a shame because the past line is set in a very interesting event, as it is the Vel d'Hiv. But as Peggy said, we seem to be in the minority on this one.


message 78: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19142 comments That’s too bad. You never know how a book will be until you read it.


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