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First Book of 2018! Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge
Pam wrote: "Anytime. As soon as people have read the book, topics will pop up in the folder:)I look forward to discuss this book with you all! ."
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The link doesn't seem to work:(
Okay, so:
Every book gets its folder. The folders are the big sections that you see when you scroll down the OSS start site. Now when you click at a folder, you see all the topics in it(not just the first 6), and you can create a new topic in the upper right corner, near the "Group Home", "Members", "Discussions" and so on...
And then a new site opens, where you can decide in which folder you want to put the new topic, the title of the topic, the opening comment and whether this topic is about a certain book (as in not all topics are related to specific books...)
That should do it at first:)
Thank you so much for this suggestion! Such an important topic. I cannot wait to read it
That was beautifully written. You’re the best!
Looking forward to my first read with Our Shared Shelf - one of my goals for 2018 was to join this group!
Dakota wrote: "Stuckinthebooks wrote: "Dakota wrote: "I definitely look forward to reading the new book! I just have to say that, when you mention that the most difficult journeys often the most worthwhile, it re..."hi dakota i know you dont know but we at HeForShe dont use the word feminisim because its bias lauguage. Let me explian: "-ism" means religion, like buddism; "-ist" means the study of, like scientist. Feminist is the correct term for all people if you choose to use it because it only means the study of the female. Masculist is also correct. HeForShe is also correct term for labling and more aproppiate i think; i use this term
Just stumbled upon this book club. I’m very excited about it. I’ll be picking this book up tomorrow. Kerry
Since I started to receive hundreds of messages from OSS I cannot resist to write something down here! I will grab this book right after my finals!
Can't wait to read. I order it first thing after I read your speech
My library doesn't have this in its circulation :(
I have recently found out about OSS and I am so excited to be part of this 'community' this year. In the past, I've read a lot of 'superficial' reads and YA-oriented books. This year I am wanting to expand my horizons and read more non-fiction. Superb choice for the first book of the year, Emma.
Hello Emma Watson, thank you for inspiring us to read this book. I’m excited to read the group the With the group and you. I’m excited and honored to be in this group. I’m excited meet all of you and Emma to.Thank you
Anne
Griselda wrote: "My library doesn't have this in its circulation :("Maybe you can ask for an inter-library exchange. Also, I will try to convince my library to buy this book. (They did My Life on the Road, so chances are good:))
I'm excited to delve into this topic. I am challenging myself to read as many different voices as I can, the voices I am not hearing, on racism in all of its sinister forms. I am excited to grow and evolve as a feminist this year!
Emma. Do you actually care about woman? I have twelve siblings and had an abusive father who beat up my mother. My mother ended up having to raise all twelve siblings on her own, and you know that would have been hell for a woman, We grew up in such poverty and I was constantly teased at school for being poor. Now...what would you say would have been a good way to survive it all? As a single mother of 13 kids? What would you know about anything, while you live your fancy life?
Victoria wrote: "Emma. Do you actually care about woman? I have twelve siblings and had an abusive father who beat up my mother. My mother ended up having to raise all twelve siblings on her own, and you know that ..."I believe Emma truly does care, just by what shes done in the UN, and her starting this group shows that. She didn't have to do anything. Instead she took up the selfless act of standing up for what she believes, and inspiring millions of people, including myself in the process.
Your right, not many people may be able to relate to what your saying. But I want you to know that myself and the others here at OSS are here for you, that's why were apart of this group.
I really hope that what I'm saying makes sense to you and that it would be able to help in some way. I'm truly sorry to hear about what you've been through, and I admire your courage for coming on here and sharing your experience.
The way I see it, were all defined by our experiences in life whether good or bad, and what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
listened to the audiobook of this last year, i learnt so much about racism in britain, well worth it, a brilliant read!!!
Can’t wait to get it from the library
Victoria wrote: "Emma. Do you actually care about woman? I have twelve siblings and had an abusive father who beat up my mother. My mother ended up having to raise all twelve siblings on her own, and you know that ..."
Hello!
I am sorry and sad to read that. Dakota got a fair point, usually a person who sides with her/his values in public definitely cares about what she/he is saying and truly means it. It is like showing what is inside you.
It is extremely brave to share something that comes from oneself. That is what you have done.
Hello!
I am sorry and sad to read that. Dakota got a fair point, usually a person who sides with her/his values in public definitely cares about what she/he is saying and truly means it. It is like showing what is inside you.
It is extremely brave to share something that comes from oneself. That is what you have done.
Wonderful choice, racism is an urgent issue that we must resolve, it's our responsability to stop the discrimination right now. Long life to OSS!!
Have a fertile and empowered 2018.
Best regards Emma and the OSS TEAM
I just joined the community and I’m really excited to read these inspirational books! Happy new year everybody! :)
Hello everybody. I just joined this wonderful and positive community and I would love to learn more on problems like gender inequality and racism, per example. I can call myself a feminist because I do believe that women should have the same rights as men. But the problem is that I don’t know how to help and inspire people like Emma does on a daily basis. I have one question and it would be very appreciated if someone answers it. Generally, are the books in Our Shared Shelf hard to understand? By that I mean the vocabulary and the story. I understand English but I’m just not very advanced (I’m always mixing English with French and Spanish and if I had to rate my English knowledge, I would give myself: Medium). I hope everybody a happy new year and I hope that 2018 brings you happiness and health.
Alessandro C.
Alessandro wrote: "Hello everybody. I just joined this wonderful and positive community and I would love to learn more on problems like gender inequality and racism, per example. I can call myself a feminist because ..."Hello Alessandro!
Welcome on board! Stay around, read threads... then you'll learn about feminism... that's one of the easiest ways... you'll improve your English as a matter of fact as well...
I wouldn't say the English is difficult to understand, but you better ask someone else as well, I am not the most reliable source on dishing out reading levels... But no, it wasn't super-difficult for me.
As I said, read threads on here, read the books to the threads... then you will learn a lot. It's what we all do here. We read and write. That's how we learn. And I have to say I have learned a lot here.
Being a feminist is hard work, you will ask yourself a lot of questions and question a lot if you read a lot of feminist works. You will star in disbelief at the books, and sometimes you might nod in total agreement. It all happens. Some you will say are crap, while others impress you very much. That's normal.
Being a feminist is hard work, but it is also really cool:)
Amazing choice of the book. Thank you Emma
I'm excited to get this book soon and start reading another year of OSS books! Loved joining last year and so glad it's still going on this year! Happy new year everyone!
Welcome on board Sarah! I hope you enjoy the time with all of us here! I always love to see when new members join us, the more voices we have, the more we can learn and the stronger we are!So, I have written down and explained all the things that you need to navigate OurSharedShelf down below:
In the upper-right corner you have certain "links" that will get you somewhere specific.
"Group home": Will bring you to the main-page.
The main-page is useful when you want to have a quick look at all th books we have read already, just scroll down, and above the quotes are the books we've read.
"Invite People": Name says it all:)
"Bookshelf": Here you see all the suggested books for OSS. You can suggest books here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
"Photos": Here you can upload photos. Check it out, they are cool:)
"Members": Here you can go look for members... by name, number of comments...(yep, the one right on number 1 is me. I have no idea how I got there;))
"Discussions": looks like Group Home, just that it is the discussions only. Sometimes useful, especially because you have them all in one place...
"Polls": We only had one poll so far. But in case we have another one... they are all stored in here. Hey mods, I know Emma chooses the book and I have no problem with that, but what about another poll sometime this year?
The moderators can be found beneath that "box" on the main page. They keep everything tidy here.
The discussions are organised in folders(the larger sections such as "Feminism" or "Intersectionality"), and within the section every member who has their email verified (that's important, don't forget to do it) can "create a new topic" (upper right, below are all the existing topics). When you create a topic, you can link it to a certain book, but you don't have to, some discussions are not about a particular book, but just general discussions about an issue. When you have created your topic, it'll be on the very top, as the topics are ranked after date, with the newest one on the very top. You can edit your own topics, which you can do with the little "edit" button on the right side. There you can amend the title, delete the topic, among others.
One last thing: In the very upper-right corner, you have, from left to right:
"Notifications": You will get a notification when a new comment has been made in a topic where you have made a coment in(so you will see that I have made a comment, this one here), but this normally takes about 15 minutes. At least from my experience.
"Group discussions": Basically the same, just that it is for all your groups, not OSS alone.
"Mail": Your PMs(Private Messages), which are like emails.
"Friends": Self-explanatory
And finally your account settings.
I think that was it for now. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask me or a moderator, we will be able to help you out.
MeerderWörter wrote: "Griselda wrote: "My library doesn't have this in its circulation :("Maybe you can ask for an inter-library exchange. Also, I will try to convince my library to buy this book. (They did My Life on..."
The county itself doesn't have it :(
I checked 2 counties. I'll keep looking thought :)
i ordered my book, & can’t wait to start it. thank you emma, for everything.
Griselda wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Griselda wrote: "My library doesn't have this in its circulation :("Maybe you can ask for an inter-library exchange. Also, I will try to convince my library to buy this book..."
Or you head over to Pay-It-Forward and ask someone if they can send it to you. Would also be an option.
I have trouble ordering it in Germany. They say it is not available. Does anyone have similiar problems?
Katrin wrote: "I have trouble ordering it in Germany. They say it is not available. Does anyone have similiar problems?"Ich hab das Buch noch nicht gekauft, aber ich schau mal und sag dir, wie es bei mir in Österreich ausschaut. Zur Not müssen wir auf den Pay-It-Forward-Thread zurückgreifen und fragen, ob es uns jemand schicken kann. Vereinigtes Königreich und Kontinentaleuropa gehen ja noch von der Distanz:)
Just got my copy today, excited to get reading. I started OSS late last year. Looking forwarding to reading along each month with the group. So grateful to Emma and all those involved that run this group. Going to try to get more involved with group discussions this year.Just to comment quick on Emma’s post: As a straight white male, I’ve only experienced racism secondhand. I know that sounds horrible, but it’s true. My privilege has been unfairly in my favor. I never realized it when I was younger. It’s not that I was racist or unaware of other cultures, I just never thought much about how my privilege affected others. I see it much clearer now as an adult. Not perfectly, I don’t know that it will ever be fair for me to say I completely understand the struggles of other cultures. But I can say that I want to be the best ally I can be. I want to be told when my privilege is showing, or if I’m being insensitive (I hope that will very rare). I want to join the movement to make this world a peaceful and loving place.
Anyway, looking forward to this book and the discussions to follow.
Happy reading, everyone! 😁
-G
really this is beautiful, because she brings that important issue to the table.white feminism do exist in mainstream culture, it's prevalent.as a white woman, understanding that types of feminism should all be heard and important, I have change me and the way I think for myself and our sisters.
The truth is that this book is being a good self-reflection exercise for me.
MeerderWörter wrote: "Katrin wrote: "I have trouble ordering it in Germany. They say it is not available. Does anyone have similiar problems?"Ich hab das Buch noch nicht gekauft, aber ich schau mal und sag dir, wie es..."
Habe es auf Amazon bestellt aber es steht immer da dass es noch net raus is... Ich geh heut mal in Buchladen :-)
Katrin wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Katrin wrote: "I have trouble ordering it in Germany. They say it is not available. Does anyone have similiar problems?"Ich hab das Buch noch nicht gekauft, aber ich schau m..."
Ich werd auch einen Buchladen aufsuchen. Und dann mal schauen. Beim letzten Buch The Power haben sie mir dann geschrieben, dass es vergriffen ist, was ich schon etwas merkwürdig fand...
Hoffentlich krieg ich's diesmal:D
Emma wrote: "Ester wrote: "The truth is that this book is being a good self-reflection exercise for me."What has it made you reflect on? (Do you mind me asking?)"
No problem,I´m happy to answer Emma. As a white woman,I have not had to worry about how a person as any race different from mine feels when they have been discriminated againts, This book is helping me reflect on that.
Two words: Audre Lorde. Essential for understanding intersectional feminism.
I was not able to read all the books from 2017, but I have to say that Emma did a wonderful job grabbing back my attention with this book. I read the tittle and I fell in love with the topic; I can not stop reading it... there’s so much we don’t know about so many things, people, and events. Thank you Emma for giving us the opportunity again (This 2018) to not be kept ignorant. Our Shared Shelf shall not vanish! :)
I find it heart breaking that access to informative literature is so expensive! you can access popular fiction on Ibooks from anywhere between £0.99 - £7.99 and yet this book retails for almost double the price at at £14.99. Whilst I do not want to discredit the author's hard work, something is to be said about the accessibility of information if it is to be double the price of other available literature on iBooks. I am very thankful to be in a privileged position to be able to afford this book straight after Christmas at be involved in this discussion, however I feel sad at the loss of people who have possibly seen this discussion in the main media, been inspired to read this book and then turned away due to the high cost. For many in the UK £14.99 is a steep price to pay in January with so many competing costs.
It’s a wonderful choice for sure, often women’s lives are complicated by all kinds of things and racism is especially huge in part. One of the things that irritates me whenever I tried to explain to others on feminism or policies even is that how other things like life experiences plays a huge part in people, therefore the policies need to be more accessible to major amount people if not all. By reading the book, I hope women of colour would be better understood in their situations, therefore their attitude to everything else.
THIS is why I stan. You have been my favorite since forever, but in the last few years I had been a little doubtful, because I felt like your feminism was very white and lacked a focus on intersectionality. But you’ve shown that sometimes it’s best to take a step back, REALLY educate yourself, learn from mistakes and then come back better than ever. You’ve shown me that it’s okay to make mistakes as long as you learn from it (REALLY learn from it; not just say you did as most celebrities do & then not change your behaviour). I am so proud of you and I look forward to see how you’ll expand and educate your feminism and activism even more. Love you, Emma! X
In Canada, I am not aware of our own history in terms of race relations (with the exception of our First Nations groups, and a number of other "minority groups" that live locally), but I stumbled across this article about race in America which I thought was really insightful and mirrored a lot of Eddo-Lodge's sentiments.https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...
Meagan wrote: "In Canada, I am not aware of our own history in terms of race relations (with the exception of our First Nations groups, and a number of other "minority groups" that live locally), but I stumbled a..."You know about FNMI? (For all the Non-Canadians, non-Indigenous people: First Nations, Metis and Inuit)
I follow a few on Twitter, and they really have changed how I view issues when it comes to history and "race" and so on.
Hi!This year and last year I have really been working on learning about FNMI in Canada. I do not know as much about Black History in Canada, though!
Meagan wrote: "Hi!This year and last year I have really been working on learning about FNMI in Canada. I do not know as much about Black History in Canada, though!"
See? We can always learn more... it's literall around the corner:)
Also, I finally ordered my copy today... look forward to reading this book.
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