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Dvorak keyboard
Trouble is, I now know where all the letters are and I'd have to learn it again :-(
Oh, I know where all the letters are, Jim. the trouble is, my finger's don't! :)
Some of my letters have gone missing :(
Never heard if lobe, but I find typing much less painful with an ergonomic keyboard, although I'm on a curve keyboard rather than true ergonomic
Gingerlily - Elephant Philosopher wrote: "Some of my letters have gone missing :("They're probably off on holiday with some of my brain cells. ;(
Your brain cells were sacrifices to the goddess Merlot...
I find that a simple wrist support is a great help, either something like http://www.presentationsdirect.com/im...or currently something like http://www.vortez.net/index.php?ct=ar...
I don't think I could relearn the keyboard now. Wrist supports really do work though.http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00E8...
Yep, I have a wrist support and its brilliant. No wrist problems at all...
Simon has used wrist supports for years.Little spindly arms, great big pints.
Our friendship really started when I gave him a packet of straws.
What, to put n his hair?
Hair?Simon? HAIR????
HAHAHAHAHA
Oh yeah, good point!
I see the pair of thread trashers have made their way here. *sigh*Just to report, I'm really liking the letter placements in Dvorak. Makes typing so much easier and less painful. I've not learned all the keys yet - this old brain takes longer to learn things - but I'm persevering with it.
I'll report back later. Meanwhile, if anyone has anything constructive to say, do chip in, please.
The first thing I thought when I started using a computer (never having typed previously) was how stupidly the keys were laid out.
It will be interesting to hear how you get on, Lynda. The theory of the Dvorak keyboard seems very sensible but, despite being around for longer than I have, it just hasn't dented the popularity of qwerty. Are you right-handed or left-handed? Did you use the 'Ctrl C' and 'Ctrl V' functions a lot?
Rosemary, I agree. I've got used to a QWERTY now, but sometimes I really struggle - especially with the bottom row keys.BJ - I think the main reason QUERTY is so ubiquitous, is that all of the main typewriter (later keyboard) manufacturers adopted it.
I'm left handed - but it was my left side (particularly the hand and lower leg) that was affected by my stroke. And yes I do use those functions a lot. Why do you ask?
Touch typists rest their fingers over the centre row. It always struck me as odd that the QWERTY didn't have the vowels in that centre row. The Dvorak does that and it places all the vowels at the left hand side which ought to be an advantage to lefties.I asked about those functions because they are easy on the QWERTY, but I've no idea if Dvorak offers something similar.
Sorry Lynda. I'll be sensible now. :)My brother had to have surgery on both his wrists. Carpel tunnel syndrome from years of keyboarding.
He's retired now so doesn't type nearly as much but he uses a curved qwerty keyboard. Sez he wishes he'd have had one 30 years ago.
I wull be really interested to know how you get on with the Dvorak Rosemary. I have been using a QWERTY for nearly 40 years for 8 hours a day (minus coffee breaks) and I am just not sure if I could adjust. However one thing is clear, the QWERTY keyboard lends itself to all sorts of unwanted auto completion problems that we never saw. Words like 'in' and 'on' will transpose due to the I and O being adjacent. I wonder how Dvorak would cope.I do like a challenge though and it seems Amazon sell them for around £30. Might be worth a try as an experiment.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/getDigital-Dv...
Is it possible to do some magic on your computer and change the keyboard setting? Then just pop the keys off and move them about?Or am I being really silly?
Patti (baconater) wrote: "Is it possible to do some magic on your computer and change the keyboard setting? Then just pop the keys off and move them about?Or am I being really silly?"
That did cross my mind Patti. Most keyboards are sculptured in a subtle way. The keyboard could al feel a bit weird. However once done you should be able to remap the keys easily enough.
I have a cheap keyboard knocking about. I might try it.
I need to see the full Dvorak layout first and am having trouble finding it.
I found it on google when I first read this thread - images.
I've got rather arthritic joints (since a young whippersnapper) and find the Microsoft Ergonomic keyboards to be the most comfortable. The worse for me are laptop and Apple's compact ones. A wrist support is a definite must, plus a decent chair.
Patti (baconater) wrote: "Is it possible to do some magic on your computer and change the keyboard setting? Then just pop the keys off and move them about?Or am I being really silly?"
Yes you can. Microsoft offers a 'Keyboard Layout Creator' that enables users to switch between QWERTY and Dvorak.
I thought it might be possible.The IT magician at school put some hot keys on Dave's laptop for him and I watched.
I think he did something with a keyboard creator. It's an Apple.
OK, I have built a Dvorak keyboard. The keyboard I used was truly rubbish but it did mean that the keys were all the same.I am going to map the keyboard now. If you never hear from me again you will know it didn't work.
Windows 7 has a built-in Dvorak setting - unfortunately it's only the American version. Grr. Why must they be so insular?I'd be loath to part with my current keyboard - Sir bought it for me last Xmas, it's a Cherry mechanical, and I love it. I'm thinking of getting a pack of stickers for if we do change Win 7 to Dvorak.
Simon, if you are a competent touch typist and have been using qwerty as long as you say, then you might find it hard. At the current stage of my learning I'm bi-lingual ;) and making mistakes in both.
Let me know how you do it, Simon, please.
Had a slight setback there. My 'F' key was sticking. Had to take it to pieces again....
RTw C-k. hgoy jdabi.e mf jdpr jdprm.xrrt yr
RTw C-k. hgoy jdabi.e mf jdpr jdprm.xrrt yr
Blast. Found I could change to Dvorak on my Chromebook under the Language settings.Of course then I didn't know which key was which. Duh
Off to look for silicon overlays...
Hello everyone,I am now using my homemade dvorak keyboard. It has occurred to me that if I did pick this up I am going to be in trouble when I go back to work
Just had a look on my Mac - you can set several styles of Dvorak keyboard in Preferences, including "left" and "right" variations, switch back to QWERTY with the cmd key. There are overlays available for all the regular Mac keyboards, including MacBooks too.
I think you have found it, regional settings,keyboard,american
ooh http://learn.dvorak.nl/can't find a chromebook overlay, and really don't want to use little individual stickers :(
I've started something, haven't I?The group is gonna make even less sense now. :(
Oh! Geoff told me about different keyboard settings on the iPad ages ago. Wonder if there's a Dvorak one...
No Dvorak I can see. There's an emoji one though.
Rosemary - that's the site I'm using to learn it - don't need to change anything - settings or keyboard - to do so.Getting a bit frustrated with it though. Expecting a bit much of my old brain, perhaps.
https://d.gr-assets.com/photos/140542...Ummm, should have tried to keep my feet out of the picture. Did I mention I type with my feet?
https://d.gr-assets.com/photos/140542...
Really tiny feet or HUGE keyboard??
Simon (Highwayman) wrote: "https://d.gr-assets.com/photos/140542...Ummm, should have tried to keep my feet out of the picture. Did I mention I type with my feet?
https://d.gr-assets.com/photos/140542......"
You're funny. Clever too.
And you've dropped a coin.
Once you have your keyboard set up you can flip between them using Alt , left shift key. This is very handy if you wish to type something and don't have fours hours spare to find the letters.
If anyone would like to have a go with one of these keyboards they are welcome to borrow my one. As I say it isn't really a very good keyboard anyway but it will certainly give you a chance to see if it is for you.Don't all rush.....
Very nice - have you got the UK Dvorak language settings, though?
No, I am using American at the moment. This is a bit of a pain because some symbols have moved. I was just about to look for a UK version but there might not be from what I can see. However you can map individual keys to fix that.
Typing is painful for me, so I'm considering it. Has anyone used one? Any advice or tips? Any views - good or bad?