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Citește cu mine/Buddy reads > Citește cu mine: Un cal intră într-un bar, de David Grossman (2.3 din 3 voturi)

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message 1: by Victor (last edited Nov 23, 2017 12:14AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Victor | 1368 comments

Sumar:
The setting is a comedy club in a small Israeli town. An audience that has come expecting an evening of amusement instead sees a comedian falling apart on stage; an act of disintegration, a man crumbling, as a matter of choice, before their eyes. They could get up and leave, or boo and whistle and drive him from the stage, if they were not so drawn to glimpse his personal hell. Dovaleh G, a veteran stand-up comic – charming, erratic, repellent – exposes a wound he has been living with for years: a fateful and gruesome choice he had to make between the two people who were dearest to him.

A Horse Walks into a Bar is a shocking and breathtaking read. Betrayals between lovers, the treachery of friends, guilt demanding redress. Flaying alive both himself and the people watching him, Dovaleh G provokes both revulsion and empathy from an audience that doesn’t know whether to laugh or cry – and all this in the presence of a former childhood friend who is trying to understand why he’s been summoned to this performance.

Reviews:

"Unrelentingly claustrophobic… The violence that A Horse Walks Into A Bar explores is more private and intimate. Its central interest is not the vicious treatment of vulnerable others but the cruelty that wells up within families, circulates like a poison in tight-knit groups, and finally turns inward against the self… Strategic weaving together of manic humour and tears… Searing and poignant." (Stephen Greenblatt, New York Review of Books)

"Brilliant, blistering… With Dovaleh, Grossman has created a character who’s captivating and horrific and a stand-up routine that’s disgusting and authentically human. I can hardly say how the book achieves its bewitching effects. It all happened so fast." (Ken Kalfus, Washington Post)

"Unless pop lyricists have the lock on the Novel prize in literature from now on, then a leading future candidate must be David Grossman." (Mark Lawson Guardian, Book of the Year)

"Much of it is extremely funny, but it’s also tightly controlled and carefully paced… Few writers hold a more unflinching mirror up to Israeli society than Grossman… [A Horse Walks into a Bar] is a work of sombre brilliance and disquieting rage, an unsparing exploration of the seductive spell of escapism and “the corruption that is in cynicism.”" (Rebecca Abrams, Financial Times)

"This is a virtuoso piece of writing, a whirlwind of laughter and tears that sucks you in and makes you holds your breath." (John Harding, Daily Mail)

"A writerly tour de force that would be unbearably painful, were it not also so generously humane." (Lucy Hughes-Hallett New Statesman, Book of the Year)

"A short, shocking masterpiece." (Adam Lively, Sunday Times)

"David Grossman tells a story that is so emotional that you feel obliged to look away from time to time or to even put away the book once in a while so you can breathe again and so you can prepare yourself for the next confrontation with yourself and the world around you." (De Morgen)

"David Grossman’s new novel runs on a high voltage line, operated by a frantic, mesmerising and almost unbearable energy. An ongoing feeling of astonishment accompanies you throughout the read, and it is linked to Grossman’s bravado and to his innovation as a storyteller… A Horse Walks into a Bar…is unlike anything Grossman has written, or anything I have read. It is a packed explosive, multi-resonant, daring and exciting." (Omri Herzog, Ha’aretz)

"Grossman’s new novel depicts a cruel demeaning stand-up act…and yet this is not a book about the violence of man but rather on the human inside - and this is what turns Grossman to a truly great author." (Nurit Gertz, Walla!)

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message 2: by Victor (last edited Nov 23, 2017 12:00AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Victor | 1368 comments Are 200 de pagini si o s-o incepem eu si Alex de pe 27 noiembrie. E scurt termenul dar e scurta si cartea asa incat cred ca o s-o terminam pana cand incepe cartea lunii decembrie.


Victor | 1368 comments Traducerea cartii se gaseste la Polirom. Pentru varianta in limba engleza dati-mi un PM.


Alex (biseptol69) | 831 comments I have the english physical book.


Alex (biseptol69) | 831 comments Chiar daca am pus-o la Currently reading, o incep maine. azi o sa mai citesc un pic din Carpentier.


Victor | 1368 comments Am inceput-o aseara si n-am mai putut s-o las din mana. Felul in care incepe cartea si cum se introduc cele doua personaje mi se pare excelent si m-a prins de la prima pagina. Are o energie dementa si imprevizibila, tipica pentru stand-up cu genul ala de umor ca al lui Ricky Gervais, de exemplu doar ca cu niste undertones mai dramatice si lipsite de umor. Abia astept sa vad ce se intampla dar presimt o intorsatura de situatie, tipic ca intr-o piesa cu doua personaje.


Alex (biseptol69) | 831 comments Intr-adevar cartea are un ritm fantastic. Din pacate a trebuit sa o mai las si din mana, sunt abia la pagina 68. Dar nu ma deranjeaza pentru ca gust fiecare pasaj. Imi place cum e scrisa.
BTW, I hate stand up comedy. Asta e si motivul pentru care o lunga perioada de timp nu am suportat Seinfeld. Daca fac abstractie de momentele cand el face standup, serialul il pot accepta la ora actuala.


Victor | 1368 comments Si eu, fiindca am adormit. :)

De ce nu-ti place stand-up-ul? Mie mi se pare cel mai greu tip de spectacol si am un respect enorm pentru toti comediantii indiferent de cat de mult succes au fiindca iti trebuie mult curaj ca sa faci asta si sa risti oprobiul public oricand. Si din motivul asta m-a nimerit subiectul cartii. Nu rad la orice deget ridicat ba chiar cred ca sunt destul de pretentios dar ca sa crezi ca poti sa tii atenta o sala intreaga minim jumatate de ora si sa-i mai faci sa si rada, e nebunie si daca-ti iese si daca nu. Eu am fost pe o scena in perioada liceului si...nu-i de mine.


Gabriel Nita (gabrielnita) | 1396 comments Tocmai ce-am terminat cartea... mie mi s-a parut plictisitoare de la un cap la altul, neconvingatoare ca personaje si punere in scena, incercand prea tare sa fie “sensibila” ba intr-o directie, ba in alta, si nereusind decat un talmes-balmes generalizat.


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Alex (biseptol69) | 831 comments I have to say, sunt la pagina 137 si ceea ce la inceput a parut un pace rapid si amuzant acum e doar o lalaiala fara sens. Sunt extrem de curios cum se termina. moare
pe scena? Va tin la curent boys.


message 11: by Gabriel (last edited Nov 30, 2017 03:09AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Gabriel Nita (gabrielnita) | 1396 comments Intrebarea e cati clienti ar fi rezistat mai mult de 20 de minute la asa un spectacol de standup... Eu sigur nu, am ras pentru prima data la bancul cu casa de pompe funebre.


message 12: by Alex (new) - rated it 2 stars

Alex (biseptol69) | 831 comments Si eu as fi plecat. Glad the book is over. tocmai am scris review-ul.
Dull, boring, nu am simtit nici o emotie fata de evenimentul de altfel tragic.
Au fost cateva glume mai la inceput la care am ras si eu. Oricum, nu mi-a intarit ideea despre stand up comedy ca nu imi place. ideea ca tipul de pe scena incepe sa se ia de defectele fizice ale oamenilor mi se pare respingatoare.


message 13: by Victor (last edited Dec 12, 2017 10:33PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Victor | 1368 comments Ugh, am reusit s-o termin aseara, cu greu. N-am avut nici timp si mi-a taiat si cheful haosul din pagina. Oricum, fata de voi, eu i-am mai dat inca o stea pentru final fiindca povestea devine oarecum suportabila spre interesanta, intelegand-o ca o aluzie spre cum arata un divort prin ochii unui copil.

Mi-au mai placut mediul si pozitia in care e pus cititorul in raport cu povestitorul dar din pacate autorul a facut prea putine ca sa profite de energia data de asta si a dat-o-n istericale si glume de bancuri.com. M-au enervat teribil loviturile pe care si le dadea baietanul ala de 50 de ani pe scena cu pumnul sau palma. Nu aveau nici un sens si povestea nu a justificat in nici un fel asta, a fost doar ca in imaginea asta:



A lumbering comedic setpiece is interrupted by horrific violence.


Victor | 1368 comments Tocmai am terminat de citit articolul care avea in cuprins poza de mai sus si pe care-l aveam pus la pastrare dupa ce nu reusisem sa citesc decat jumatate din el. Mie mi-a placut mult si am regasit cartea asta in el, mai precis efortul ei stupid de a face praf tentativa de poveste coerenta (doamne fereste sa fim melodramatici *da-ti doua palme*).

In sfarsit, nu continui ca sa nu-i mai scad o stea, mai jos e linkul:

How Novelty ruined the novel

Si am adaugat Middlemarch la TBR.


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