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About a year ago I had never even heard about "cyberpunk", and I normally read neither S/F nor Fantasy (I tried "The Time Machine" and, sorry, hated it - anyway, would that be Cyberpunk?).
Would some Jules Vernes fit in here? Like 20.000 miles under the sea?
What about "Divergent"?
Else, I would probably HAVE to do Orwell's 1984 - he was a school read sometime and I did not like it either, but at least...
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About a year ago I had never even heard about "cyberpunk", and I normally read neither S/F nor Fantasy (I tried "The Time Machine" and, sorry, hated it - anyway..."
Cyberpunk is basically a futuristic story in which androids/robots/computers are key features, and the characters either "jack in" to the computer and action takes place in the virtual world (such as Ready Player One or Warcross), or the characters are robots or androids, AND the characters are in some way subverting the ruling government (that's the "punk" part). Divergent is not cyberpunk, 1984 is not cyberpunk, The Time Machine and 20,000 Leagues are not cyberpunk. (they all have no robots or virtual reality). Classic cyberpunk is Sterling and Gibson, such as Mona Lisa Overdrive. I don't know of any Wells or Verne or Orwell books that are cyberpunk. Cinder counts, because some of the characters are robots and androids. If you are certain that you are going to hate this genre because you never like sci-fi, but you still want to read something that fits, I recommend you stick with a short story, like The Minority Report (this will take you max one hour to read) or Johnny Mnemonic. They've both been made into movies, so you may already be familiar with the plots.
About a year ago I had never even heard about "cyberpunk", and I normally read neither S/F nor Fantasy (I tried "The Time Machine" and, sorry, hated it - anyway..."
Cyberpunk is basically a futuristic story in which androids/robots/computers are key features, and the characters either "jack in" to the computer and action takes place in the virtual world (such as Ready Player One or Warcross), or the characters are robots or androids, AND the characters are in some way subverting the ruling government (that's the "punk" part). Divergent is not cyberpunk, 1984 is not cyberpunk, The Time Machine and 20,000 Leagues are not cyberpunk. (they all have no robots or virtual reality). Classic cyberpunk is Sterling and Gibson, such as Mona Lisa Overdrive. I don't know of any Wells or Verne or Orwell books that are cyberpunk. Cinder counts, because some of the characters are robots and androids. If you are certain that you are going to hate this genre because you never like sci-fi, but you still want to read something that fits, I recommend you stick with a short story, like The Minority Report (this will take you max one hour to read) or Johnny Mnemonic. They've both been made into movies, so you may already be familiar with the plots.


About a year ago I had never even heard about "cyberpunk", and I normally read neither S/F nor Fantasy (I tried "The Time Machine" a..."
Thanks!!! I just got me "The Minority Report" on Kindle, although the description of "Dick took drugs etc. had visions etc. and wrote a lot..." probably did not help much about my reservations ;-)
Even as a kid, you could forget me about Alice in Wonderland, no Harry Potter, I walked out of the Matrix movie, and merely know the movies you mentioned exist, but never watched them after seeing the trailer.
I will, though, sometime try Dick's "The Man in the High Castle" after Wikipedia had tought me that Alternate History is a subgenre to S/F (ha! a soft approach!!). I LOVED the similar "Farthing" by Jo Walton and highly recommend it. Being German, I found the idea of Hitler making a separate peace treaty with Britain and his reign continuing rather repulsive, but Walton's entry words made me read it: "This novel is for everyone who has ever studied any monstrosity of history, with the serene satisfaction of being horrified while knowing exactly what was going to happen, ....
....rather like studying a dragon anatomized upon a table, and then turning around to find the dragon's present-day relations standing close by, alive and ready to bite." quoted from the preface. No cyberpunk for sure
Microhistory, allegory, TIME TRAVEL!, cyberpunk! ... this year, I really broaden my horizon!

After looking for a female author, I found Pat Cadigan and her book Synners. I hope I like it...



I loved that book!

My husband, however, disagrees. What do y'all think? If it isn't, I can always give DADoES? yet another shot (I suspect I am not a PKD fan), or start in on Infomocracy. And I might even have downloaded a copy of Warcross. So I am not out of options. It'd just be nice to go ahead and cross this one off the list.
I loved All Systems Red (and I am fully committed to reading the rest of the series SOON), I did not think it was cyberpunk as I was reading it, however your argument is quite persuasive and I think you make excellent points. Based on what you said, it should count!
Nobody really know exactly what cyberpunk is anyway ;-)
Nobody really know exactly what cyberpunk is anyway ;-)

Thanks for the support! Hubby is starting to come around to my way of thinking. :-)

As soon as you start discussing genres and genre definitions, there are like so many different interpretations, especially among literary scholars. I almost mentioned this in the ATY discussion about whether graphic novels is a format or a genre - because you could really argue both (and people do)... But I thought it would just contribute to common confusion, which is something I enjoy doing in conversation, but it´s not so amusing in written text among people who don´t know each other.

This is why I just threw the vote in for the "not a novel" lol. Because then I can still do a graphic genre/format whatever....
But my favorite discussion by far has to be the literary fiction....
Ok so back to cyberpunk... I really need to look it up again, but I think I'm set with my pick. there are just so many sub genres among genres now. All I care about is if the writings good. Hopefully I don't struggle too much with this one :/

Oh yeah, talk about an elusive genre definition!

I just read it and wasn’t looking forward to it either. But I did enjoy it. Not my favorite but glad I read it.

Good to hear, Thank you :-)

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The book is Little Brother by Cory Doctorow and I haven't read it yet, so I can't say anything about it, but it sounds intresting and google confirms that it is actually Cyberpunk...

I read & enjoyed that book before I ever heard the term cyberpunk. It was a summer reading suggestion about 5 years ago at the high school where I work.
I guess I do like *some* cyberpunk books. ;)



Sound & Fury: Shakespeare Goes Punk
Once More Unto the Breach: Shakespeare Goes Punk 2
Merely This and Nothing More: Poe Goes Punk
What We've Unlearned: English Class Goes Punk

My read of choice was Party Discipline by Cory Doctorow which was a wonderful read with a lot of relevant themes.



This is the prompt I was dreading the most, and was struggling to find a book that looked like it would interest me. Altered Carbon sounds pretty interesting though, so going to give this one a go instead, thanks for the recommendation!
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