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July 2014 Book Discussion > Time line question.

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message 1: by Jason (new)

Jason | 7 comments So where does this book take place in relation to the events in KotOR and Revan by Karpyshyn?


message 2: by Joshua (new)

Joshua Luz | 23 comments About 300 years after both.


message 3: by Jason (new)

Jason | 7 comments *SPOILERS AHEAD* So, in the Darth Bane books Bane redicovers, from a holocron that was Revan's, that the Sith should be ruled by two. One to embody power and the other to crave it (or something along those lines), did it really take such a short time for the Sith to go so wayward?


message 4: by Aaron, Jedi Master (new)

Aaron Goins (avgoins) | 213 comments Mod
Maybe Revan believed that but he never made it happen. Bane was the first to actually establish the Rule of Two by essentially wiping out all other Sith


message 5: by Jason (new)

Jason | 7 comments Really? I suppose I just assumed that he actually made it happen, then....... Carry on, my bad.


message 6: by Joshua (new)

Joshua Luz | 23 comments It's weird, because the idea is kind of there. In Tales of the Jedi, the ghost of Marka Ragnos makes Exar Kun the Lord of the Sith and Ulic Qel-Droma his apprentice. KOTOR the game expanded that a bit, making Kun's Sith a much larger Order with Jedi turning on each other, but I got the impression that Kun and Ulic were the top dogs and everyone else almost didn't matter. Something similar could be the case with Revan and Malak, where they're the top lords and everyone else are lackeys in their eyes, similar to how Palpatine had Vader, but also had a bunch of dark side Inquisitors and Hands. Perhaps Darth Revan only considered he and Malak to be the true Sith Lords and everyone else their tools. Bane decided to take that to an extreme new level where there would only be the two, period.

That said, the Sith in this book are a different branch from Kun's order or Revan's. They fled after the Great Hyperspace War occurred in the Tales of the Jedi comics, which happened 1,000 years before the war with Exar Kun, and they've been establishing their own Sith order and empire ever since.


message 7: by Jason (new)

Jason | 7 comments So essentially we are looking at a completely different 'sect' of Sith?


message 8: by Joshua (new)

Joshua Luz | 23 comments Yeah. They splintered early on and didn't really interact in canon, except that Revan and Malak encountered these Sith back when they were still officially Jedi. In the TOR backstory videos, the Sith Emperor used his will to get Revan and Malak to do his bidding. They were supposed to use the Star Forge to help build his fleet, but Revan and Malak decided to create their own Sith Empire once they were away from the Emperor.

In KOTOR II, Kreia speculates that Revan may have actually chosen to use the Star Forge and his Sith forces to conquer the Republic because it was the only way they would have the strength to stop the Emperor's resurgent Sith.

Either way, Bane's Rule of Two seems to have spawned from a more literal interpretation of Revan's idea, which TOR's Sith Empire seems to have never had.


message 9: by Jason (new)

Jason Duran | 37 comments If anyone is interested, the videos were compiled into one long movie ... consider it a history lesson.
http://youtu.be/KeboxMqdXdE


message 10: by Jason (new)

Jason Duran | 37 comments This video also contains a stunning re-enactment of the battle at the Jedi temple from the beginning of the book. http://youtu.be/rPdJdEFilaU


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