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[Jim]

It is getting silly!

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Well, cheap shop wasn’t worth it, but I at least got to get my prescription (hadn’t received my text, but as I was wearing a mask, thought I’d risk it, so I don’t have to go out with one again tonight). Lucy is getting good at telling the time, I was working away earlier and she came and meowed at me, I went to tell her it wasn’t lunch time yet, and realised that actually, in 2 mins, it was!

Bet things will be sorted quickly now you have put your foot down Patti!

[Patti (baconater)]

They've finally got a lawyer on it.

[Jim]

Patti (baconater) wrote: "They've finally got a lawyer on it."

The world is a strange place when this is an improvement!

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Note to self. Do not rub eyes after using hand sanitiser. It’s very windy here and dusty. I cried all the way to the bakers this morning. That stuff stings like Hell. The temperature has dropped with a thump. It was 20 something overnight last week and last night was 10. There’s snow at 1200 metres. I wish I’d packed for an extended stay but I’d rather shiver than go clothes shopping.

[Patti (baconater)]

Gone cold here too Lynne

I hate wearing socks.

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Blue skies but really cold today. We’ve finally had to start taking our temperature when we arrive at work, mine said 33.5 so think they should be more worried about me being alive! I had taken it at home just in case, that was normal at 36.2 (well, normal for me, anyway!). Pay day, so petrol and food shopping on the way home from work. Had a call yesterday, she made out she was from my car insurer’s aftercare department, checking how satisfied I was with the repair work, but then went on a tangent and saying I was eligible for a contingency payment of up to £3k, if I said I had some discomfort from the accident, alarm bells started to ring then, I don’t feel comfortable saying I had symptoms when I didn’t, so I told her to give me time to think about it.

Hope it is resolved quickly now Patti. Don't blame you for not wanting to go clothes shopping Lynne.

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Neighbour asked me to nip into Morrisons when I went for petrol, I treated myself to the new vegan pepperoni pizza (although I made it non vegan by adding normal cheese rather than vegan), it was delicious, might have to go to Morrisons more often! Had a rubbish night sleep, so don't think my plan of going for a walk will happen, I do have a couple of errands to do.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

What’s vegan pepperoni made of Desley. I didn’t sleep well either. It went really cold in the night and I couldn’t be bothered to find the blanket. I’ve got it out for tonight though. It’s very windy here and the dust and pollen is giving both of us the sneezes and sore eyes. It’s nice and sunny though.

[M.T.]

That's very sad news about Kay, she was an absolute sweetheart.

Cold here too, as you can see, I've been busy. Have to schedule in a lot of knee appointments, hopefully on the same day, will ring on Monday to sort them out.

It's cold but it's cold enough to break out the hand knitted woolly socks so it's not so bad. They are unbelievably comfortable. As the nights draw in I'll be getting the knitting out again too.

Cheers

MTM

[Patti (baconater)]

I've had a dodgy tummy for the past couple days. Googled my symptoms and of course it said covid. Sheesh.

My own fault for googling.

I reckon its just stress induced.

I just hope it doesn't stay dodgy until my paperwork is sorted.

[Alicia]

Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "...went on a tangent and saying I was eligible for a contingency payment of up to £3k, if I said I had some discomfort from the accident, alarm bells started to ring ..."

There's a new scam every minute! They never let up.

[Alicia]

Patti (baconater) wrote: "I've had a dodgy tummy for the past couple days. Googled my symptoms and of course it said covid. ...I just hope it doesn't stay..."

I think the gastric symptoms are rarer, though I've heard up to 40% of people with covid-19 never get a temperature. Hope you're okay - you are in a different country, and the water and the food are different.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

It’s European water Patti. 😁I had something like that this week. I really dont know what it was but I stayed close to the loo for a day or two.
It’s cold! 6° this morning. It’s a big thump down from last week. I really haven’t got a lot of clothes here, serves me right for listening to the management when he was bossing me about with packing.
I didn’t pack shoes to keep the weight down in the case and regret it. Next time I shall do my usual packing and have what I need.

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Morning, getting fed up of all this me time! I did at least get a bit more sleep after feeding the cats, so not quite as long a day.

Hope it is just the European water Patti. What a shame you haven't got the right clothes now the weather has changed, when are you coming home? No idea what was in vegan pepperoni, but it was very nice!

[Jim]

Alicia wrote: "I think the gastric symptoms are rarer, though I've heard up to 40% of people with covid-19 never get a temperature. Hope you're okay - you are in a different country, and the water and the food are different.
..."

From memory, Bovine Coronavirus is basically a gastric problem.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

My friends in Utah had very bad gastric symptoms when they had the virus. They joked since that they knew why people had stockpiled T rolls. Makes me wonder if there are different strains of it or individual reactions to it are so varied. I still don’t know how people who are asymptomatic know they have it as to have a test you should be showing symptoms according to all the bumf.

[Jim]

Depends where you are, our local shipyard just tests everybody, every three days.
At £150 a test the company is shelling out over a million pounds a week

[Patti (baconater)]

As long as its not the Texan brain eating amoeba.

Seems better this morning. At least I wasn't running to the loo in the night again.

[M.T.]

Texan brain eating amoeba!!!!!! Jeeez.

Glad you're feeling better Patti.

Bit grim this morning but I've left a parrot in a warehouse crapping on a bunch of irritated bad guys so I have to go and resolve that for them.

Cheers

MTM

[Jim]

M.T. wrote: "Texan brain eating amoeba!!!!!! Jeeez.

Glad you're feeling better Patti.

Bit grim this morning but I've left a parrot in a warehouse crapping on a bunch of irritated bad guys so I have to go and ..."

you know what they say, 'Sh*t happens' :-)

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Had to get winter coat and gloves out today, as phone said it was 3 but felt like 1, car said 2. Because I was cold though, our thermometer couldn’t pick my temperature up, and I’d forgotten to do it before leaving the house, so had to guess it was normal. Checked it a couple of hours later and it said 35.8, I am quite cold today.

Wow, that’s a lot on testing Jim!

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Just come in as the sun went down behind a hill. It was 20°. The contrast was like someone switching off the electric fire.
There wasn’t one vapour trail in the cloudless sky. To say how busy it used to be. Planes going over from Paris south, from Nice to anywhere and even Rome to the states pass over us. OH watched a man in a microlight this morning taking photos of a little plane doing barrel rolls and loop the loops but not a jet in sight.

[Jim]

Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "Wow, that’s a lot on testing Jim!
..."

It is, and ironically it gets us into trouble because we are a hot spot

[Alicia]

And we have gone three weeks testing the whole staff weekly - without a case. Yay us!

It's silly, because a single staff member going home and getting exposed somewhere could set up the whole thing again.

I wonder what's going to happen when there are no more funds to supplement tests.

[Jim]

The newer systems coming through are cheaper, that's just the way these things work

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Thats what worries me - you can catch the virus an hour after testing negative. A test is just that - at the time of testing it tells if you are negative or positive nothing more and until we get an instant results test what happens in the interval is vitally important if those tested are caring for vulnerable people.

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Not much to say today, still a bit fed up with all the restrictions, and the weather is going to change today, so that will be even less fun! Did get to speak to one of my ex colleagues this morning though, that was nice. I've also had Coco and Chanel 3 years today, can't believe it!

I wondered how long the test results lasted Lynne, I thought it was unlikely that testing negative meant you could go back to normal life as you don't know when you will come in contact with it. Glad it is settling down for you Alicia.

[Lisa]

When I had suspected coronavirus back in early March I couldn't even get a test. At the time, I thought it was influenza C because of the dizzy spells and constant dry cough. Guess what I did? I stayed at home so that I would not infect other people. I do strongly believe that anyone who is ill, even mildly, should stay at home, test or not, while this is going on. I am still having problems with extreme tiredness and breathlessness. After years on lisinopril, I had several months of really low blood pressure, at times scarily low even when we totally stopped medication. It now seems to be resolving (although my meds are still at half dose). That and the early loss of taste and smell was the clincher for the doctor who certainly thought it was a probable case, though I still don't understand why or how I could have caught it.
The other thing I strongly believe is that the approach to testing is all wrong. The antigen tests are pretty meaningless. If you feel ill at all, you should isolate. They do need to test keyworkers routinely, but for the rest of us an antibody test and a "green card" if you've had it would solve a lot of anxiety. It would cost far less to administer too.

[M.T.]

Lisa wrote: "When I had suspected coronavirus back in early March I couldn't even get a test. At the time, I thought it was influenza C because of the dizzy spells and constant dry cough. Guess what I did? I st..."

Totally, I was talking to a writer friend who is a retired surgeon just the other day who said what we should be testing is T cells and how quickly antibodies are produced rather than whether or not they are there.

Cheers

MTM

[Lisa]

That works too. T cells are the reason the virus picks on older and immune compromised people disproportionately.

[Alicia]

Lisa wrote: "...I am still having problems with extreme tiredness and breathlessness..."

Please do NOT push yourself. Those of us with long-standing post-viral syndromes do best with aggressive rest.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

I’ve just watched a news item of how the cruise industry is dealing with the virus. A huge liner the MSC Grandiosa showing how passengers and the reporter on the programme being tested before being allowed on board. They have a lab and equipment and the technician gave him the results of his test. Not days later, just the time it took to process the sample.

[Patti (baconater)]

the school nurse here is administering tests. drop of blood on a thingy, results in 15 minutes.
if thats positive, off to the clinic for a swab. if negative, back to class.

go to the nurse for a test if you feel unwell, even if youve had a test earlier in the day.

[Lisa]

Alicia wrote: "Lisa wrote: "...I am still having problems with extreme tiredness and breathlessness..."

Please do NOT push yourself. Those of us with long-standing post-viral syndromes do best with aggressive rest."

Thank you Alicia, I promise I am trying not to. I am familiar with post viral syndrome from when I was much younger. Some days are a write off, yes, you need aggressive rest; others are more fun or more productive, but overdoing it means wipe out. Take care of yourself too.

[Alicia]

Lisa wrote: "Alicia wrote: "Lisa wrote: "...I am still having problems with extreme tiredness and breathlessness..."

Please do NOT push yourself. Those of us with long-standing post-viral syndromes do best wit..."

There is evidence that repeated crashes do a lot of damage in the long run. Boring pacing, and mostly staying in your energy envelope, tend to let you get a bit better as time goes by.

I think part of it is my inability to process adrenaline - and doing too much requires adrenaline. A dropper-ful (half a teaspoon) of liquid B12 was recommended to me by a nurse, up to 8 times a day. Works for me, is always on hand, and is inexpensive. Kind of like an energy drink in a dropper.

Other than naps, in thirty years I've found nothing else that helped much.

Hope you recover completely, and don't have to deal with this.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

I keep telling my daughter that Alicia but she won’t listen, she’s like my husband and they both fight against what they perceive as weakness in illness. .
Lisa, my daughters BP went so low with meningitis they wouldn’t transfer her to a bigger hospital . There’s a few similarities in the covid and meningitis after effects
Patti,That test sounds better than shoving inches of a swab stick up your nose and waiting days for the result. I wish they'd get together and all sing from the same hymn sheet.

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Urgh, glad I’m working from home today, I stretched funny this morning and feels like I’ve pinched a nerve. It was hair wash day, so I thought the hot water would help, although was interesting trying to wash my hair, didn’t, so I tried an ice pack then some voltarol! Slightly eased after lying on the bed and stretching about 10am, but not great. I couldn’t drive though, so if we weren’t allowed to work from home, I’d have had to call in sick. Also a bonus that a parcel that was due on Fri has now been altered to this pm, so at least I’ll be in for it. Wet and miserable. Had a bonus with Amazon, they are offering a £5 bonus if you activate prime using an Alexa, which I was holding off till just before prime day to do, but there was a deal on one of the add on channels that ended today, £1.99 for 6 months, it’s normally £4.99 a month. So have got that, but that means I can’t get Netflix till I’ve either watched everything on it (not sure there is enough for 5 months if I’m honest), or in 6 months. Now to stop myself buying DVD’s (well, after I’ve used my £5 bonus!!)

That's a good way of testing Patti, I do wonder why there are differences in each county.

[Lisa]

Alicia wrote: "Lisa wrote: "Alicia wrote: "Lisa wrote: "...I am still having problems with extreme tiredness and breathlessness..."

Please do NOT push yourself. Those of us with long-standing post-viral syndrome..."

Vitamin B, and particularly B12, is always part of my morning routine and has been for years. I try to avoid crashes and overdoing things;. That's difficult, but sometimes I find I even have to limit online time but hey, it's all good, and at least the blood pressure is normal now. Thank you for the kind thoughts.

[Lisa]

Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "I keep telling my daughter that Alicia but she won’t listen, she’s like my husband and they both fight against what they perceive as weakness in illness. .
Lisa, my daughters no went so low with m..."

I do think rest is the best healer Lynne but we live in a culture that praises perceived toughness and presenteeism. It's an ideal mindset for delaying recovery and spreading illness. It's about time we all woke up to that.

[Lisa]

Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "Urgh, glad I’m working from home today, I stretched funny this morning and feels like I’ve pinched a nerve. It was hair wash day, so I thought the hot water would help, although was interesting try..."

I am familiar with that Desley. I hope the pain eases up soon.

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Lisa wrote: "Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "I keep telling my daughter that Alicia but she won’t listen, she’s like my husband and they both fight against what they perceive as weakness in illness. .
Lisa, my da..."

Yes, we do. I still struggle to relax and watch tv, i feel i should be doing something more productive even when I'm low on energy and rest would be beneficial. I take b12 tablets, but wonder if liquid would be better?

[Lisa]

Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "Lisa wrote: "Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "I keep telling my daughter that Alicia but she won’t listen, she’s like my husband and they both fight against what they perceive as weakness in illness. ...."

I am the same. Learning to do nothing is hard. I don't honestly know about the B12, Desley. We used to get soluble B12 tablets that you dissolve under the tongue. That's good for vegetarians because it bypasses the need for intrinsic factor but I have never had the liquid. Vets know the benefits of B12 so I trust what they say about it being great for improving energy levels.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Having had migraine for years I know I can’t fight that so I’m good at giving in gracefully. Although I stil feel I have to clear the decks and get certain things done before I allow myself to rest.

[Lisa]

Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "Having had migraine for years I know I can’t fight that so I’m good at giving in gracefully. Although I stil feel I have to clear the decks and get certain things done before I allow myself to rest."

Fortunately full blown migraine is not something I have had. I have had visual migraine with low blood sugar but never the crippling pain that usually goes with it. I am so grateful for that!

[Alicia]

Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "I keep telling my daughter that Alicia but she won’t listen, she’s like my husband and they both fight against what they perceive as weakness in illness. ..."

Taking care of yourself is being sensible, not weak, especially now. I'm sick. I don't get catered to (though my husband is very supportive) or coddled - I do what I can. But I trust myself, and he trusts me, not to make things worse.

Tonight I dropped a (fortunately plastic, from the dining people) plate of shrimp and linguini on the floor - it slipped off the refrigerator shelf. He asked if I needed help. Usually I say I can handle it; this time I let him do it.

But when he started opening and closing the apartment door because I was heading out on Maggie (my Airwheel S8), I said thanks - but I don't need help with the door most of the time, and will ask for it when I do. We have a good working arrangement.

I'm not weak. If I lived alone, I'd handle everything. But I do some of his laundry, and put eyedrops in his eyes, and as much as I can around here.

[Alicia]

Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "Urgh, glad I’m working from home today, I stretched funny this morning and feels like I’ve pinched a nerve. It was hair wash day, so I thought the hot water would help, although was interesting try..."

Sorry the usual remedy didn't work. I hate those pinched nerves.

[Desley (Cat fosterer)]

Phew, neck/shoulder is much better today, thank god. Still a small amount of pain if I move my neck too far, but nothing like yesterday. At least I’m working from home again today, so don’t need to drive. Was so wet here yesterday I had to put my coat on to walk across the street to my neighbours. Had to nip round the village to do a couple of errands, thought I’d do it at lunch as it was dry, unfortunately everyone in the post office queue had awkward/long winded queries!! Good job no one will see me still eating my lunch at my desk.

[Lisa]

Glad ypu are feeling better Desley. We had yo get up early today so the plumber could fix a new sink in. That was a fun project, as the old vanity unit was installed over a hole in the wall and a partial pit full of rubble. He had left the installation until we got it fixed and yours truly had to chip out uneven cement peaks, chop and cement a brick in, half fill the pit, fill various wall holes, screed with flooring compound and tile. That was last week. Now we have a lovely new vanity unit and modern sink and a much nicer smell in the bathroom.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Good morning all. There’s the most severe weather warning issued for parts of France. The west coast seems to be the worse but we’ve had a localised one telling us to be prepared for floods, exceptional winds and to secure all objects likely to blow away etc they’ve also closed all schools, colleges and crèches
It’s a bit OTT though. Tells you to prepare a bag in case of evacuation in emergency with warm clothes a torch and if you have animals food for them. It suggests take biscuits and drinks for us. There’s also crisis counselling available! Now I’m really worried. I haven’t got any biscuits.
Joking aside the welsh weatherman said it was rainbow weather in Wales. We shall see what comes. I’ve nipped out and bought bread and croissants - it’s raining a bit but that’s all so far.