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Random Facts, Theories, and Possibilities
Hehe I don’t want to be in the middle of this, but I’m going to politely recommend that everyone takes a break from this conversation just so that everything stays good :)
Y’all it just hit me that Sophie is a Mary-Sue 😭 Shannon says “She thinks of Sophie as a better version of herself,” or something like that 😳 broooo
Carrlene wrote: "Y’all it just hit me that Sophie is a Mary-Sue 😭 Shannon says “She thinks of Sophie as a better version of herself,” or something like that 😳 broooo"
nope nope nope no 'mary sue' stuff in the chat loves
nope nope nope no 'mary sue' stuff in the chat loves
So I realized something. In Neverseen, Granite won’t let Biana go with him to visit Alden because he says he needs to protect his identities. Plural. TIERGAN IS OTHER PEOPLE.
We’ve know that he’s Granite for a while, but the thing is he said that when he was Granite. that’s only one secret identity, but it sounded like he was implying that there are more.
He probably has a ton of identities like .every. Other. Kotlc. Character. That’s one thing that sorta bugs me. Like EVERYONE has some mysterious connection to both Sophie and the council, black swan, school, Neverseen, or all of the above. MAJOR SERIES SPOILERS AHEAD- Like when Juline was revealed as that frost lady (why can’t I remember her name? 😭) of the Black Swan, and Forkle was like FIFTEEN PEOPLE, and the thing with her universe mentor and Alvar being a Neverseen member... it’s all just a lot. The Forkle having a twin thing was too much for me too. No hate tho, and Shannon definitely has some brilliant connections, but there are just so many that it’s not as fun when more are revealed.
I know, it’s getting really crazy and kind of confusing. Hopefully it’ll be someone less significant so it doesn’t cause another major impact. Somehow I don’t see that happening though...
Chiriosareyum wrote: "Y'all r confusing me"
Same, I'm confused, I usually am...but you guys are so right, I can't even remember all of them now!!!
Same, I'm confused, I usually am...but you guys are so right, I can't even remember all of them now!!!
:D o y i n :D wrote: "ikkrr
im thinking of a different series at da moment"
I have so much on my mind, I can't even think about this right now!!! And yet, here we are. :)
im thinking of a different series at da moment"
I have so much on my mind, I can't even think about this right now!!! And yet, here we are. :)
alright so
granite = tiergan
forkle = magnate leto, sir astin, don't remember if any more was revealed
squall = juline (dex's mom)
identities of wraith and blur have not been revealed, but it is highly speculated that blur is jensi's older brother, who is a phaser mentioned multiple times
and then the grady thing- ik him going dark would literally break sophie and eda's heart but. think abt it. the potential is astounding
granite = tiergan
forkle = magnate leto, sir astin, don't remember if any more was revealed
squall = juline (dex's mom)
identities of wraith and blur have not been revealed, but it is highly speculated that blur is jensi's older brother, who is a phaser mentioned multiple times
and then the grady thing- ik him going dark would literally break sophie and eda's heart but. think abt it. the potential is astounding
I actually kind of think that Blur is Jensi's dad. He gives off more of an "adultish" feeling than an older brother would, especially since he was supposed to be Tam and Linh's guardian.
That could be true. I don't think its ever told you what her ability was. And for the Shade to have a Flasher for his mom seems like just the right kind of irony.
:D o y i n :D wrote: "guys i think glimmer is tams mom"
i also used to think that, but tam's mom doesn't really give off the vibes and she's a lot younger than tams mom probably is- youthful energy if you get what i mean?? and she would probably give it away if she were his mom
+ the dark hair thing?? eeeeh its a stretch
still won't ship it if they're not related :/
i also used to think that, but tam's mom doesn't really give off the vibes and she's a lot younger than tams mom probably is- youthful energy if you get what i mean?? and she would probably give it away if she were his mom
+ the dark hair thing?? eeeeh its a stretch
still won't ship it if they're not related :/
Lemon wrote: ":D o y i n :D wrote: "guys i think glimmer is tams mom"i also used to think that, but tam's mom doesn't really give off the vibes and she's a lot younger than tams mom probably is- youthful energ..."
Yeah, agreed. Plus, if she was his mom, I think Shannon would have given use clues to that, if not in the books but as teasers since she probably wouldn't like that so many people ship them.
Clementine wrote: "Yeah... I’m not sure what to think about glimmer. But I’m SURE that Blur is related to Jensi. In nightfall, when they are on river drift heading to Ravagog, a huge wave crashes over the boat, and S..."oooh that makes sense
Yeah, and I saw an interview where Shannon said she wants to incorporate Jensi more, but the story wasn’t ready (this was a couple years ago I thing) and I think that’s how she’ll incorporate him.
TheSilverMoonlark wrote: "nooo dark grady. that would be like if we cut verdi from the kotlc movie/show"Oh yeah
I'm serious. there is no easy way to explain it ( and by that I mean I just tried and half an hour in I gave up)
TheSilverMoonlark wrote: "If any of u have seen Ashley Garcia genius in love u may b thinking what I am but ashley graduated college at 9. sophie u have competition."Damn
YALL did anyone realize on the group banner (which is supposed to be the art that Keefe gave Sophie) the love triangle buddies are standing on either side of Soph? Idk why I’m freaking out about this but wanted to share 😂
Carrlene wrote: "YALL did anyone realize on the group banner (which is supposed to be the art that Keefe gave Sophie) the love triangle buddies are standing on either side of Soph? Idk why I’m freaking out about th..."Yupppp
Carrlene wrote: "YALL did anyone realize on the group banner (which is supposed to be the art that Keefe gave Sophie) the love triangle buddies are standing on either side of Soph? Idk why I’m freaking out about th..."OMG I JUST SAW THAT XD
ƒαηgιяℓ_σνєяℓσα∂__(っ◔◡◔)っαυηтιєяσιѕмувαвуѕσвα¢к域 wrote: "Carrlene wrote: "YALL did anyone realize on the group banner (which is supposed to be the art that Keefe gave Sophie) the love triangle buddies are standing on either side of Soph? Idk why I’m frea..."AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEGACY COVER!!!!!!!!!!
have you seen that meme with the baby and that cover? XD








you wouldn't understand then, maybe another day you'll see it"
I don't think Dragon was insulting you. more like cluing in that you should be more aware of your words?