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Jul 06, 2021 03:30AM
Off topic, haven't been that impressed with this years music. I haven't heard anything yet that's really blown me away. Nearly all my upcoming nominations for the Cream of 2021 are slow, steady songs, nothing massively exciting. I must be getting old. ;-)
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TheFoe wrote: "Off topic, haven't been that impressed with this years music. I haven't heard anything yet that's really blown me away. Nearly all my upcoming nominations for the Cream of 2021 are slow, steady son..."Me neither, Foe. The best stuff I've heard so far has been archival releases & reissues.
On a related note...
A Place To Bury Strangers have a new EP, "Hologram", out on the 16th July - https://aplacetoburystrangers.bandcam...
Their last album was v disappointing and this doesn't sound much better :-(
(Well, maybe a litte bit better, these two songs have grown on me slightly since I first heard them.)
End Of The Night - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YNfVssP...
I Might Have - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O-wde7I...
I expected them to start going "woohoo", à la Blur's "Song 2", at the beginning of this one.
"I must be getting old"me too, but i don't think that's got much to do with it - most modern music is just sound for the sake of it, there's no edge, belief or urgency....just sterile copies of copies of templates of ideas all nicely recorded and blander than a blandery - i blame coldplay and oasis for this mass acceptance of meagre fodder. i could probably name no more than 7 outfits still 'on the go' that are worth paying attention to. i have nothing more for the 'cream off' thread (yes, i know there's an extra f, go figure!) unless we see some action from,
nick cave and........ - it will only be me excited by that
kraftwerk - not very likely (18 years and counting)
misty in roots - not very likely (19 years and counting)
lee scratch perry - who knows?
the pop group - on/off, not likely
vin gordon - who knows?
chris carter/cosey fanni tutti - nowt in the pipeline
'n' that's about it!
......oh, and pere ubu, of course!
Helen The Melon wrote: "TheFoe wrote: "Off topic, haven't been that impressed with this years music. I haven't heard anything yet that's really blown me away. Nearly all my upcoming nominations for the Cream of 2021 are s..."See where you're coming from with the Blur reference, not really that impressed with either song to be hones.t
Tech XXIII wrote: ""I must be getting old"me too, but i don't think that's got much to do with it - most modern music is just sound for the sake of it, there's no edge, belief or urgency....just sterile copies of c..."
There's a reissue from punk/reggae band, Bad Brains 1982 first album, 'Bad Brains' that might, (might not), be of interest to you Tech.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bad-Brains-V...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pUlN...
yes, it would be. a brilliant album, which i have on the original 'roir' cassette (and am trying to unload on discogs, nothing to play it on!), and would be looking to replace it with the cd. cheers.
Incoming!Another book is on it's way - Paint My Name In Black And Gold: The Rise Of The Sisters Of Mercy.
"Leeds, 1980. From the chaos of the city's vibrant post-punk scene emerges an unlikely band of young men who will, over the next five years, go on to invent goth as we know it and change the course of rock music forever, before blowing apart spectacularly on the verge of stardom. This is the story of the rise of the Sisters of Mercy.
It focuses on the Sisters' two classic line-ups: Andrew Eldritch on vocals, Craig Adams on bass, Gary Marx and Ben Gunn - and later Wayne Hussey - on guitars, and a drum machine called Doktor Avalanche. Hussey and Adams were hard-living road dogs with fascinating musical back-stories; neither Gunn nor Marx were natural rock 'n' roll animals, but the latter performed with such abandon that it was hard to believe he also wrote the Sisters' most delicate and beautiful songs. Lead singer Eldritch was the most peculiar and compelling of them all, a singular and mesmerising amalgam of T.S. Eliot and David Bowie: in the period covered by this book, he staked a powerful claim to be the greatest rock star of his generation. Drawing on dozens of interviews with band members and key figures in the Sisters' journey, Paint My Name in Black and Gold is the definitive account of how - against the odds and all reasonable expectation - these men came to make transcendent and life-altering music.
It is also about the glorious stupidity of being in a Leeds rock band in the early eighties, with tales involving a milk float, a hibernating snake, a wardrobe in a tree, an amyl nitrate-soaked effects pedal and the inopportune consumption of Dutch hash cake."
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paint-My-Nam...
And here are Mark Andrews' two articles for The Quietus that led up to the writing of this book:-"Shine Like Thunder: The First Golden Age of The Sisters of Mercy" -
https://thequietus.com/articles/23082...
"Life Before Alice: Andrew Eldritch, Leeds & The Birth of The Sisters of Mercy" - https://thequietus.com/articles/21215...
Apols if I've posted them before. Can't remember & old searchy can't find anything.
Woohoo!At last, The Sisters of Mercy's 3 BBC sessions are finally getting an official release on CD. About bloody time. Out on 27th Aug but available to pre-order now from a few places online incl. Amazon & Rough Trade. Decent prices too:-
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...
https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/the-sis...
Tracklist:-
John Peel Session 1982:
1. 1969
2. Alice
3. Good Things
4. Floor Show
David “Kid” Jensen Session 1983:
5. Heartland
6. Jolene
7. Valentine
8. Burn
John Peel Session 1984:
9. Walk Away
10. Poison Door
11. No Time To Cry
12. Emma
TheFoe wrote: "Ordered, thanks Helen. :-)"Jolly good.
And new Clan of Xymox album, Limbo, out today -
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Limbo-Clan-X...
https://clanofxymox.bandcamp.com/
No idea what it's like. Hope it's better than their last one.
That's the trouble with Clan Of Xymox, they are a bit hit and miss. Truth be told, I only own one of theirs which is the first one, 'Clan Of Xymox', although I do check out their other releases from time to time. I always think the vocals are a bit fey for my liking.
TheFoe wrote: "That's the trouble with Clan Of Xymox, they are a bit hit and miss."Yes, you're right, they are. Reminds me of a review I read last year of their last album. Some quotes from it:-
"The story on Clan of Xymox has been largely the same for the last several releases. While the gloomy darkwave act helmed by Ronny Moorings will still occasionally come through with a track that speaks to their legendary status, most of their modern material is okay but largely inessential. Spider on the Wall, their 11th LP since Ronny rebooted the project in the late 90s doesn’t buck that trend at all; diminishing returns are still the order of the day, with the occasional glimmer of their faded brilliance as a reward for dutifully checking in on them."
"At some point Ronny will compile a best of the 2000s CoX release that will be more enjoyable than any of the LPs it draws from."
Ouch. But true.
The Cureish soundalikes TRAITRS have a new EP out tomorrow: The Sick, Tired & Ill.Magdalene - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CuKUvZi...
Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sick-Tired-I...
B'camp - https://traitrs.bandcamp.com/album/th...
Helen The Melon wrote: "The Cureish soundalikes TRAITRS have a new EP out tomorrow: The Sick, Tired & Ill.Magdalene - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CuKUvZi...
Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sick-Tired-I......"
Quite like them. Have the promise to be something special if they can drop some of the 80s schtick.
Memoria (Tess de la Cour, daughter of Henric) has just released a new single with a message saying that it's from her new forthcoming second album (no date yet). The song is a duet with Kite's (Swedish synthpoppers) Nicklas Stenemo.Along The Sea - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yFkoEL1...
Enjoyed her first album so hopefully this second one will be good too.
Never liked much Specimen, but...Olli Wisdom has died - Specimen lead singer, Batcave co-founder & Psy/Goa trance pioneer (Space Tribe).
Hex - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W5KPA5S...
Interview with Olli & Jon Klein - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GTqF6nh...
Old Quietus article about the Batcave club - https://thequietus.com/articles/09610...
Yes, Specimen never seemed to stay much on my radar, but no denying the influence around the Batcave.
Look what arrived through my letterbox today...
Yeah, Goodreads needs a like button!
Sera69 wrote: "Yeah, Goodreads needs a like button!":-)
I'm liking the silvery snakeskin cover. It almost matches the grey handwarmers I have on today!
Got mine today too, will give it a spin tomorrow, (arrived late and I've been up since 4am).Edit - Grey hand warmers in August??
Edit 2 - Sorry forgot you live in Scotland. :-)
Helen The Melon wrote: "Sera69 wrote: "Yeah, Goodreads needs a like button!":-)
I'm liking the silvery snakeskin cover. It almost matches the grey handwarmers I have on today!"
Oooh? - so it does!
Very nice indeed, Helen ... the Cover AND the Handwarmers! ;o>
TheFoe wrote: "Got mine today too, will give it a spin tomorrow, (arrived late and I've been up since 4am).Edit - Grey hand warmers in August??
Edit 2 - Sorry forgot you live in Scotland. :-)"
Glad yours arrived too. Been listening to mine again this afternoon.
Yes, handwarmers in August. It's not a fashion statement or because I live in Scotland (we do have summer here too - it's 23°C at this very moment ;-) ). I have v bad Reynaud's disease & my hands are icy cold a lot of the time, all year round.
Helen The Melon wrote: "TheFoe wrote: "Got mine today too, will give it a spin tomorrow, (arrived late and I've been up since 4am).Edit - Grey hand warmers in August??
Edit 2 - Sorry forgot you live in Scotland. :-)"
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Sorry to hear that Helen, feel bad for my flippant remark now.
TheFoe wrote: "Sorry to hear that Helen, feel bad for my flippant remark now."Don't be silly Foe, it's fine. There's nothing to feel bad for.
At least your beer always stays chilled!!(sorry... :) )
Sera69 wrote: "At least your beer always stays chilled!!(sorry... :) )"
Aargh! Damnit Sera, I don't drink alcohol (anymore) 😇.
Btw, re: our fascinating herbal tea chat... I have a new fave - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aduna-Radian...
Sounds gross but it's not. Fruity. Berry-y.
Is there any sign yet of your usual radiance radiating even more now, Helen?;o>
LOL!!! ... well, so long as it tastes delicious that's all that matters ;o>
Helen The Melon wrote: "Sera69 wrote: "At least your beer always stays chilled!!(sorry... :) )"
Aargh! Damnit Sera, I don't drink alcohol (anymore) 😇.
Btw, re: our fascinating herbal tea chat... I have a new fave - ht..."
Not tried Aduna before. Am slightly put off by the very annoying buzz word identifiers "Defence" "Relax" "Radiance" "Cleanse" "Restore" etc but they do look nice.
Interview, published yesterday, with Sisters guitarist Ben - https://louderthanwar.com/the-sisters...Jesus F*ckin' Jones? Eh? I used to have an album of theirs; it wasn't very good.
I actually quite like 'International Bright Young Thing' and 'Right Here, Right Now', there I've said it.
Ooooooooooooooh?!! ... here's your Passport! - pack a Bag!!! ... ;o>
suzysunshine7 wrote: "Ooooooooooooooh?!! ... here's your Passport! - pack a Bag!!! ... ;o>"I'm an Amazon Exile exile. :-(
I'll be joining you though because I like them too ;o>
It's ok, you can both stay (of course). ;-)I really liked Real Real Real at the time and that's why I bought the album. I was disappointed. The rest of it wasn't v good. I still like R R R but that's probably all. They just seem an odd choice for support act.
Anyway, here's something non-Jesus Jonesy: Siouxsie and The Banshees performing at Warwick Arts Centre, University of Warwick, March 1981. This was recorded for the BBC programme "Rock Goes To College". The full 40ish mins was put on YouTube sometime last year.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=08RX3H9...
Israel
Spellbound
Arabian Knights
Halloween
Christine
Night Shift
Red Light
But Not Them
Voodoo Dolly
Eve White/Eve Black
Helen The Melon wrote: "Interview, published yesterday, with Sisters guitarist Ben - https://louderthanwar.com/the-sisters..."And an interesting interview with Himself! - https://www.loudersound.com/features/...
Helen The Melon wrote: "Interview, published yesterday, with Sisters guitarist Ben - https://louderthanwar.com/the-sisters..."And another piece with Ben talking about some Sisters songs -
https://www.loudersound.com/features/...
Looks more interesting than that first interview. Not had time to read it all yet but...
Def Dreadful Leppard, Europe and Bon Bloody Jovi? Eh? I used to have a Bon Jovi album; it wasn't v good. (In fact it was utter sh¡te. I can't remember which one it was or how/why it was in my possession.)
Reissue alert: Tourniquets Of Love's Desire by Children on Stun (1994) out on Sept 24th
"Deluxe reissue of the 1994 debut studio album from London's iconic goth rock troupe, Children On Stun - released on both digipak CD and spectacular RED & BLACK SPLATTER vinyl!
The album has been sonically updated with a complete digital remastering while the artwork has been meticulously recreated with band photos!
The vinyl includes a bonus track of an early demo called "Choices," and the CD includes the entire Celibacy & Anadin EP that includes remixes by another goth icon Rosetta Stone!"
https://childrenonstun.bandcamp.com/a...
https://www.juno.co.uk/products/child...
Not on Amazon yet. I'm sure it'll appear. I'm not paying those crazy shipping prices for delivery from the US on Bandcamp :-(
Cats Or Devils Eyes - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ht9Ezvi...
I like the design - it's got a lot of visual appeal ;o>
Sera69 wrote: "Skeletal Family are a much better prospect. Also recommend Ghost Dance, Anne and Gary's post Skeletal Family/Sister's band, if you're not already familiar with them. Their Stop The World album is p..."Sera, Anne-Marie has recently been recording new music under the Ghost Dance name, but without Gary. A new single was released a few weeks ago and there are plans to release a new album - https://ghost-dance.co.uk/
Falling Down - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwLq8gv...
Hmm, not v inspiring, is it?
Helen The Melon wrote: "Sera69 wrote: "Skeletal Family are a much better prospect. Also recommend Ghost Dance, Anne and Gary's post Skeletal Family/Sister's band, if you're not already familiar with them. Their Stop The W..."It's in desperate need of some bite, and those drums plod. so. badly.
I'm also not liking it either ;o<I'm not keen on her Singing Technique. It comes across to me as sounding weary, insipid, and half-hearted. I really like to hear much more of the three E's - emotion, emphasis, and effort - put into any Lyrics.
... says the Girl who sadly can't even carry a Tune in a Bucket!!! ... LOL!!! ;o>
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