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B the BookAddict wrote: "It could be your age, Alannah. I know that asthma sufferers and people over 50 can get the injection here, no problem."
I think it is. I think you have to over 60 or an asthma sufferer or cancer sufferer or have to either work in a hospital or a care home to receive it.
I think it is. I think you have to over 60 or an asthma sufferer or cancer sufferer or have to either work in a hospital or a care home to receive it.

Angela M wrote: "In the US the Center for Disease Control recommended that everyone 6 months of age and older get a flu shot. The shots are readily available at Doctors’s offices and pharmacies. Most health insuran..."
According to the receptionist, the NHS here will only cover those at risk and send out what is needed when people responded to letters they are sent so they very rarely have any spare. I think if you want one here, I will have to pay but thankfully they're not that dear. I'm going to go into a pharmacy before work and ask about it tomorrow.
According to the receptionist, the NHS here will only cover those at risk and send out what is needed when people responded to letters they are sent so they very rarely have any spare. I think if you want one here, I will have to pay but thankfully they're not that dear. I'm going to go into a pharmacy before work and ask about it tomorrow.

one from the pharmacy. That’s where my husband and I got ours.
Angela M wrote: "Alannah, I thought it might have something to do with supply. Good luck ! I hope you can get
one from the pharmacy. That’s where my husband and I got ours."
Thank you, I refuse to be sick another year.
one from the pharmacy. That’s where my husband and I got ours."
Thank you, I refuse to be sick another year.

Do we have it in a nasal spray? When I finally start getting flu vaccinations, and have a target year in mind for this, I prefer that to a needle.
Karin wrote: "Angela M wrote: "In the US the Center for Disease Control recommended that everyone 6 months of age and older get a flu shot. The shots are readily available at Doctors’s offices and pharmacies. Mo..."
I know it is available in a spray, children are offered it in school as opposed to the needle.
I know it is available in a spray, children are offered it in school as opposed to the needle.

Good, if adults get that option I'll start getting it far sooner. I avoid needles when at all possible, even at my age. If the person hits a nerve they HURT, although the last time I had a test she missed them and it barely hurt at all. There is no way they can see your nerves...(yes, I am one who prefers to be cognizant and awake during surgery--100 percent mass of contradictions!)

Angela M wrote: "Karin, I know that was an option in the US at one point , but not sure if it still is ."
Thanks! I am not planning to get one this year. I have never had any complications from the flu and have never been laid up in bed with it, either, which is why I'm waiting until I hit a certain age. My parents were never laid up with it until they were in their 70s, but I don't plan to wait that long to get the vaccination. It would interfere with my pro-vaccination stance. I won't even touch on that soapbox issue other than to say that my kids had all the ones offered although 1 or 2 were only so they could go to public high school and that I get my 10 year booster...

one from the pharmacy. That’s where my husband and I got ours."
Yes, Angela, I think you are correct about the supply. Could it also be that if a person does not get the flu shot and gets the flu, the body will create it's own natural antibodies against the flu thus negating the need for the injection in future?

I think Angela is right Bette. Having founght off one strain of the flu doesn't necessarily protect from another strain (next year's strain). But I have heard that older flu shots (or former flu illnesses) can provide a little resistance, just not nearly as much resistance as the antibodies for the new, current flu strain.
Greg wrote: "I think Angela is right Bette. Having founght off one strain of the flu doesn't necessarily protect from another strain (next year's strain). But I have heard that older flu shots (or former flu il..."
I think this is right Greg. Or at least this is what doctors say!
I think this is right Greg. Or at least this is what doctors say!

Yes, this is correct. There are many flus out and about all of the time, but they try to prediction which bad one will be out and about and make a vaccine for that. Due to mutations and changes in flu viruses in humans, birds and swine (since bird & swine flus can and do crossover to humans), this is an ongoing process.
This is much harder than something like the polio vaccine given all the changes that are continually going on.



Has anyone else every had a rash with Flu?



Yes, get the rash checked--it's not a flu symptom. In addition to things already listed, it can also be part of meningitis which can start off just like the flu.

Joan wrote: "I procrastinated just a little too long. I got my flu shot Saturday but spent Friday with a friend who didn’t know she had the flu. She got sick Saturday and it hit me on Monday. I had forgotten ho..."
O, I am so sorry to hear this Joan! I hope you feel better soon.
O, I am so sorry to hear this Joan! I hope you feel better soon.
Karin wrote: "Alannah wrote: "Karin wrote: "Angela M wrote: "In the US the Center for Disease Control recommended that everyone 6 months of age and older get a flu shot. The shots are readily available at Doctor..."
Unfortunately, I have, the worst was in 2016. I was in bed for about ten days with the flu and then took something called post-viral fatigue which affected my back, I was in great pain with it and couldn't walk, there were days I was crawling. I had a nightmare experience with countless who refused to sign me off work and I was going home every day in tears and ended up with no money for a couple of months. I never want to go through that again. I've had the flu every year since 2014 and I end up with bed unable to do anything at all.
Unfortunately, I have, the worst was in 2016. I was in bed for about ten days with the flu and then took something called post-viral fatigue which affected my back, I was in great pain with it and couldn't walk, there were days I was crawling. I had a nightmare experience with countless who refused to sign me off work and I was going home every day in tears and ended up with no money for a couple of months. I never want to go through that again. I've had the flu every year since 2014 and I end up with bed unable to do anything at all.
Alannah wrote: "Karin wrote: "Alannah wrote: "Karin wrote: "Angela M wrote: "In the US the Center for Disease Control recommended that everyone 6 months of age and older get a flu shot. The shots are readily avail..."
That sounds absolutely awful Alannah! I hope you avoid it this year!
That sounds absolutely awful Alannah! I hope you avoid it this year!
Greg wrote: "Alannah wrote: "Karin wrote: "Alannah wrote: "Karin wrote: "Angela M wrote: "In the US the Center for Disease Control recommended that everyone 6 months of age and older get a flu shot. The shots a..."
Fingers crossed, got the shot this year.
Fingers crossed, got the shot this year.

Wow! That's hard and I can see why you have one every year. I am still waiting; I always check with the suggestions from Canada, since that's where I'm from (dual citizen now). I don't fit any of the criteria for having to take it there, so coupling that with both my and my family's health history (parents, birth aunts & uncles, birth siblings, spouse, children etc) I am waiting :) until sometime over age 60 (perhaps age 65 which is the age I saw there, but I'll see because my husband will hit 65 before I do and then I may get it for his sake since he gets hit with things).


Joan, how are you feeling now?
Nancy from NJ wrote: "What an awful day today. I woke to hear that 11 people were killed doing nothing more than praying as Jews. It is a sorry state that one can’t even feel safe in a Sanctuary. My hear breaks for fami..."
I hadn't been following the news lately and just saw this in another Goodreads group. It is extremely sad. I feel terrible for the families and the whole community who must be in so much pain after this senseless act.
I hadn't been following the news lately and just saw this in another Goodreads group. It is extremely sad. I feel terrible for the families and the whole community who must be in so much pain after this senseless act.

Norton wrote: "I haven't had a flu shot in years which is the only time I've gotten the flu, and it was bad. My doctor tells me the flu shots today are very different. Even if they don't cover the strain of flu y..."
Hope it helps you Norton! I do feel like it helps me - I haven't caught a bad flu since getting the shots.
Hope it helps you Norton! I do feel like it helps me - I haven't caught a bad flu since getting the shots.

Karin wrote: "In addition the the tragedy in PA yesterday, my son and I saw smoke spewing into the sky from a large fire when we went to Boston yesterday. Thankfully, there were no casualties, but about 70 colle..."
Goodness! I'm glad everyone was ok!
Goodness! I'm glad everyone was ok!

Same here. And as a mother I have to say it made me happier he is commuting by bus to college (plus the $$$ it saves is enormous). But our hearts go out to all of those students. Some are from his college.

Karin - that’s terrible for those students - tough for anyone but especially when they are just practicing independent living. Of course it brought to mind the Grenfall Towers survivors. I read they have created a cookbook:
“Together Our Community Kitchen”
A Book to Benefit the Cooks of Grenfell Tower
https://nyti.ms/2AmT2OX?smid=nytcore-...
Joan wrote: "Dely, I’m much better thanks. It’s hard to feel good on a day like today with the evil evident in Pittsburgh, Yemen, the bomber from Miami - it’s hard to remember that Love conquers all, eventually..."
I know what you mean Joan, but I'm very glad you're feeling physically better regardless!
I know what you mean Joan, but I'm very glad you're feeling physically better regardless!

I feel the same and it is because of this that I try to stay away from news. There would be to cry and be sad every day for people tortured or been killed because of another religion/skin color/sexual orientation/country/environmental disasters/wars/rapes/ etc. It's really heartbreaking and makes me feel really bad.

About 3 weeks ago two of the young women I now work with made some racist jokes - it was hard to object, but I did, gently. One of them let me know afterwards that NOBODY had ever taught them that civilized people don’t think that way. She thought it was “like farting, something everyone does but no one talks about”.
Joan wrote: "About 3 weeks ago two of the young women I now work with made some racist jokes - it was hard to object, but I did, gently. One of them let me know afterwards that NOBODY had ever taught them that civilized people don’t think that way. She thought it was “like farting, something everyone does but no one talks about..."
Good for you Joan!
Good for you Joan!

I have a neighbor that is a little bit a racist. She is usually a lovely woman, I never had problems with her, but once she said that our intercome seems that of Albanians (to say that it isn't nice to see). Then an African moved to live in the building and she complaint about it. Today, coming to ask me an egg, we have seen a family of South Americans going up the stair to see a flat that is on sale. She said she hopes they won't buy it. I told her, as with the African neighbor, that it is important that they are good people. And then I asked her about her problems and complaints with the white and Italian neighbors (she has several unsolved problems with at least two Italian neighbors). I hope she will understand it that kindness has nothing to do with our nationality.
I don't like how Italy and Italians are becoming. I hear too often of aggressions to foreigners. I don't like to see how Italians are becoming racists (sadly thanks to our new elected politicians, above all one). Ok, usually it has been us that emigrated and we have never been colonizers, so we aren't used to see other people in Italy (except tourists), but we have to get used to changes.

Abou..."
Joan, that was very thoughtful of you! It's so sad to see there's still so much bigotry in this world :(

I am the same way and do the same thing!

Wow--that cookbook is something!
Thankfully no casualties here and the college communities and city are rallying to help, but I am sure that this is still devastating for those who lost all of their things in their fire and their sense of security. Some in the building next door may well get to move back in once their building has been properly inspected and given the all-clear.
I am very thankful that if it was going to happen (looks like it was) that it happened in the afternoon when many were out and people were mostly awake as it's much easier to stay sharp when not roused from the depths of sleep.
dely wrote: "Joan wrote: "About 3 weeks ago two of the young women I now work with made some racist jokes - it was hard to object, but I did, gently. One of them let me know afterwards that NOBODY had ever taug...
I have a neighbor that is a little bit a racist. She is usually a lovely woman"
Only a little? In Italy these days is often easy to find people strongly racist. Up to some times ago even if they thoughht that way thy felt ashamed to state it aloud; not anymore ...
I have a neighbor that is a little bit a racist. She is usually a lovely woman"
Only a little? In Italy these days is often easy to find people strongly racist. Up to some times ago even if they thoughht that way thy felt ashamed to state it aloud; not anymore ...
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Hope you feel better soon Diane..."
Just tried to get mine from the doctor's, they won't give me it because I'm 'not at risk', despite getting the flu for the last four years. Going to have to find a pharmacy that will give me it.