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I have several friends who would kill to be able to use an Unforgivable. I have such peaceful, non-violent friends. :D






I couldn't think of how to say that. You said my thoughts exactly. :D That was very well put.


I still don't know if I would be able to use the Cruciatus Curse on someone. It says that to do it right, you have to want to cause the person pain, and I don't know if I'm capable of that.
Just curious, have you read Gone? It deals a bit with this.

Poor Shaahin...how can you??? :D
This is along the same philosophical question a college professor once asked the class..."if you could kill someone by repeating their name three times...would you?" He went on to talk about all the horrible people in the world..Hitler, Stalin..Pol Pot....serial killers...mass murderers...rapist...child abusers.... ect. But then he pointed out "how can you be so sure that they were so guilty that you had to kill them while they were still alive (and what would happen if there were others with the same name - were they just collateral casualties?) and what criteria would you use to decide when to use the power".
Interesting discussion.
As for Weasley, the book never says if she intended to kill Lestrange or not...it just says she was very angry and her curse hit Lestrange perfectly on her heart. As for Harry using the unforgivable curses, the first time he tried to use the Cruciatus curse, it didn't work because he really didn't want to cause someone pain which I thought showed a lot about his character. As for using the Imperiuse curse, I felt this was a little justified and I can see Harry thinking the same as it was for the greater good and no one was seriously hurt by him using it. In a way, it's WHAT you do to the person under Imperiuse curse that makes the difference between it being really bad or not.
Interesting discussion.
As for Weasley, the book never says if she intended to kill Lestrange or not...it just says she was very angry and her curse hit Lestrange perfectly on her heart. As for Harry using the unforgivable curses, the first time he tried to use the Cruciatus curse, it didn't work because he really didn't want to cause someone pain which I thought showed a lot about his character. As for using the Imperiuse curse, I felt this was a little justified and I can see Harry thinking the same as it was for the greater good and no one was seriously hurt by him using it. In a way, it's WHAT you do to the person under Imperiuse curse that makes the difference between it being really bad or not.

What about when Harry Crucio-ed the Death Eater for spitting at McGonnagal?

But like someone else pointed out - Harry was not by any means completely perfect. You have to remember the person he used the curse upon - Amycus, the Death Eater who Harry had earlier learned was torturing students and making them practice that very same curse upon each other. And even then, Harry did not prolong the torture - rather he used it to cause him to fall into a bookshelf so he and McGonagall could escape. Was it justified? I am not completely sure but it is sorta of like an "eye for an eye".
You also have to remember that at this time - there were no rules and the use of the unforgivable curses where being done right and left by everyone (willingly or not). Harry did not care about the retribution of what would happen if he cast the curse - he was more concerned about what would happen if he failed to defeat Voldemort.
You also have to remember that at this time - there were no rules and the use of the unforgivable curses where being done right and left by everyone (willingly or not). Harry did not care about the retribution of what would happen if he cast the curse - he was more concerned about what would happen if he failed to defeat Voldemort.
Oh, and one more point...I don't think it was the fact that Harry hated Amycus, or what he had done, anymore or less than Lestrange but that it was a culmination of everything that had happened before....kinda like the straw that broke the camel's back that finally caused Harry to snape and use the curse.
At that point, I too would be boiling with anger at any Death Eater I met - I too would want to cause them pain (not kill but make them "feel" what they have done). I challenge anyone to admit they honestly wouldn't have felt the same way.
At that point, I too would be boiling with anger at any Death Eater I met - I too would want to cause them pain (not kill but make them "feel" what they have done). I challenge anyone to admit they honestly wouldn't have felt the same way.

I don't think I did miss the point. I too said that it was to show Harry wasn't perfect. (You might want to re-read my posts). I also believe Harry acted in blind anger and attacked Amycus not just because of him spitting on McGonagall but because of a culmination of everything that he happened before. It was a heat of the moment thing. It was in the middle of a huge battle when Harry still didn't know everything he needed to know to ultimately cause Voldemort's downfall. Why didn't he use an unforgivable curse against Voldemort? I don't really know. Maybe it was because at that point - he knew there were no more horcruxes and he knew death so he did not fear it as he did before. Maybe it was because by that time - he understood the power of the Elder wand - or maybe he just decided to go with a curse that he had used once before against Voldemort with a positive outcome.
Here is a discussion about the same thing on another fan site. http://www.leakylounge.com/Harry-Prof...
Here is a discussion about the same thing on another fan site. http://www.leakylounge.com/Harry-Prof...

Poor Shaahin...how can you??? :D"
my dear dear Novin.if u had spent 11 years with shahin....


To me...a person who is too perfect and never does anything wrong is not someone to be trusted.....everyone has a dark side....the ones to watch out for are the ones who hide it.


I'm sorry, there is one person that I really dislike, and I would choose to do an imperious curse. I would never so low and kill someone or make them in pain.

This is true when it comes to Harry using the spell ... Not everyone agrees with his decision :)
think about the most disgusting person that u know in your life and answer this question.