Splintered Fan Club discussion
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Who do you think Alyssa will end up with?
Aqsa Raffe Pooky Bear wrote: "I noticed how on the Splintered cover, amidst all the greenery, there a blue butterfly. ;) I know its nothing big, but it just stood out to me.And then there is a bug. Which seems consistent with ..."
If you think about it, as I can`t stop talking about the queen of Hearts, the cards are hidden in his jacket. Can we take it as a metaphore of: I have more tricks in my sleeve. Like the Queen of Hearts may not be evil. She may save Jeb`s ass or something!
Natalia wrote: "Aqsa Raffe Pooky Bear wrote: "and has a big ass widow spider on his neck about to bite him into a serious freaking coma."Hmm, isn't it the same spider that is sitting on Morph's hat? Maybe it's a..."
There are also dragonflys on all the covers. Near their faces.
Dahanci wrote: "Jeb's is okay, but... I kind of like guys with more... ahm... facial angles?
I call it the Daniel Radcliffe Factor, or Having a Square Face.
Jeb is on the verge of having one. But other than that..."
Completely agree with that one!
I call it the Daniel Radcliffe Factor, or Having a Square Face.
Jeb is on the verge of having one. But other than that..."
Completely agree with that one!
Sydney wrote: "Dahanci wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Okay guys, I'm not going to lie to you. A small little fly just smacked into my computer screen and all I could imagine it saying was "eee Morpheus Morpheus Morpheus ..."
Yep, done that a few times with the same person and she still doesn't get it.
Yep, done that a few times with the same person and she still doesn't get it.
Natalia wrote: "Aqsa Raffe Pooky Bear wrote: «And also, @Nat, lets hear the Jeb-does-something-else-stupid comment! regarding the prophecy. ;D »What? Sorry if I'm not catching what you mean. My brain is a bit mu..."
The novella didn't help any. If possible, his POV made it look even worse. I'll reply about the sacrifice a bit later, with quotes, to make my point clear.
Regarding this! But if you weren't serious thats okay lol.
@ Aqsa: Yes, I was serious, but I meant the sacrifice and you said "regarding the prophesy", so I got confused :)
Natalia wrote: "@ Aqsa: Yes, I was serious, but I meant the sacrifice and you said "regarding the prophesy", so I got confused :)"Oh gosh, sorry! Guess your brain isn't the only one a bit muddled up lol.
I'm back... What...
What...
I'm not sure what's going on.
Dahanci wrote: "I'm back... What...
What...
I'm not sure what's going on."
Me neither...
Natalia wrote: "Nessy wrote: "取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "Shoving aside my ridiculous need for Alyssa to end up with Morpheus, where a lot of personal logic is involve..."Actually, no "worried walls of text" are comi..."
I can see that. That's often how it goes in Greek mythology. Or course, I've also seen a prophecy in one tv series that didn't end up happening, so I suppose it depends on what type of series this is. Of course that prophecy wasn't a very nice one, unlike this one.
Diane wrote: "Well, I've just started re-reading, since it's been a while since I read the books last, and I wanted to refresh my memory before Ensnared. I will think on this, and try to answer. It may turn ou..."Well, good for you. I prefer those sort of comparisons.
Sydney wrote: "Dahanci wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Okay guys, I'm not going to lie to you. A small little fly just smacked into my computer screen and all I could imagine it saying was "eee Morpheus Morpheus Morpheus ..."I've explained the concepts of both shipping and fandoms to my Grandma.
Aqsa Raffe Pooky Bear wrote: "I noticed how on the Splintered cover, amidst all the greenery, there a blue butterfly. ;) I know its nothing big, but it just stood out to me.And then there is a bug. Which seems consistent with ..."
Actually, I think the Red symbolizes the Queen of Hearts, since he has a heart over his eye and the pupils of his eyes look like hearts.
Nessy wrote: "Aqsa Raffe Pooky Bear wrote: "I noticed how on the Splintered cover, amidst all the greenery, there a blue butterfly. ;) I know its nothing big, but it just stood out to me.And then there is a bug..."
Quite possibly. I like the idea of the cards being a metaphor for having tricks up your sleeve, and Anita did say that the Queen of hearts has a reason for being the way she is.
Natalia wrote: "Diane wrote: "SPOILERS***SPOILERS***SPOILERS***Sorry, I don't know how to make the spoiler brackets on the GR app. The biggest point for Jeb that I can think of right away is that he was willing ..."
Well, I kinda understand why Jeb did what he did. I went back to that part of Splintered just to check, and he had no way of knowing the Red King would have been willing to carry out the sacrifice instead. He could have well thought that if he didn't, the White Queen would never get free and be able to warn Alyssa of the true nature of Morpheus' plans. Plus, if Jeb's reaction to when he figured out what Alyssa was going to do is any indication, he didn't want Alyssa to use her wish on him.
@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value and don't come out of nowhere. You have to see them coming, at least to a certain degree.We get to see Alyssa gradually accepting her netherling side, her powers and her queenly status. We watch her feelings for Morpheus evolve from attraction to love in the span of two books. It is apparent that they are meant to be together, because they fit each other so perfectly in every way. Once Alyssa lets go of her humanity, she will no longer need the feeling of stability and security that Jeb brings.
Yes, Alyssa loves both Morpheus and Jeb. It will be a hard choice for her to make. In the end, she will choose not who she loves most, but what kind of love she needs most. Jeb makes her feel safe, while Morpheus makes her feel free.
So if she stays Queen, there is no doubt in my mind who she will choose. And logically, she shouldn't leave Wonderland. You see, she already turned her back on her kingdom once, she just can't do it another time. Because it would be pointless and kind of nullify all character development she had. Once she is the last queen standing, there will be no one else to rule. She will stay and fulfill her destiny. That is the only way that I find natural and organic.
Nessy wrote: "There are also a couple of ants climbing MORPHEUS AND ALYSSA! Now, do ants symbolize love or something?"You never fail to make me laugh :D I'm not sure, but we can make our own rules, right?
"I still believe that Jeb WILL END UP WITH GOSSAMER, because they pretty much liked each other in Splinterd...like...she offered him her "services". And that leads me to another question:
HOW THE HECK DOES ONE HAVE SEX WITH A 20 CENTIMETRE FAE?"
ROFL. I was wondering about that too while reading Splintered.
@ Katie: I will reply to your comment about the sacrifice later, okay? I remember my promises, but right now I just can't bring myself to write long posts about Jeb. It's enough that I spent the last two evenings doing research on his playlist. It is quite an accomplishment for me to read and analyze 60 (!) lyrics for a character I hate.
Well, it's like putting a hot dog into a keyhole. And I'm going to leave now XD
Dahanci wrote: "Well, it's like putting a hot dog into a keyhole. XD"Yeah, pretty much, but I'm pleased with the results ;)
取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "Because Jeb again, seriously doesn't want to stay in Wonderland "About that (from Jeb's playlist) "White Rabbit":
Your magic white rabbit
Has left it's writing on the wall
We follow like Alice
And just keep diving down the hole
You can't fix your broken promise
Our ties have come undone
I will not be used to be battered and abused
It's the reason why I choose to cut my losses
Your lies fool no one
Your magic white rabbit
Your white room straight jacket
You can't offer your poison to me
In your kingdom of filth
Now, I know we can't take every text literally, but I found the excerpt kind of fitting.
取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "I find Jeb being there, just makes Alyssa have a purpose to "protect" the things she cares about? (because he's pretty useless) Jeb to me, feels like a catalyst for things to happen."
Yup. More a plot device than a character. He is just there to ground Alyssa to her humanity. Best parts of the book come when he was either absent or rendered unconscious. I pretty much can quote Morph here:
«Morpheus purses his lips. “Hmm. Have Jebediah mooning over you in a half-awake dream state, or have him unconscious and drooling. What do they call that here? A no-brainer.»
Natalia wrote: "取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "Because Jeb again, seriously doesn't want to stay in Wonderland "About that (from Jeb's playlist) "White Rabbit":
Your magic white rabbit
Has left it's writing on the wall..."
Bonus points for Morph quote- you're absolutely right.
*throws confetti*
THE BATTLE IS WON.
Natalia wrote: "@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value and don't come out of nowhere. You have to see them coming, at least to a certain degree.We get to ..."
She doesn't need to let go of her humanity. I figured that the books are kind showing how both of her sides can work together, not that she needs to choose one or the other. Also, I think that even if she acts as Queen of Wonderland, I still think she'll visit the human world from time to time.
Natalia wrote: "Nessy wrote: "There are also a couple of ants climbing MORPHEUS AND ALYSSA! Now, do ants symbolize love or something?"You never fail to make me laugh :D I'm not sure, but we can make our own rule..."
oh, ok.
Katie wrote: "Natalia wrote: "@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value and don't come out of nowhere. You have to see them coming, at least to a certain de..."In the end of Unhinged Alyssa said that she no more has two sides. She`s now one united being. My absolutely perfect future for her is she, ending with Morpheus in Wonderland and coming to visit her family in the human world via mirror every now and then.
Katie wrote: "Natalia wrote: "@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value and don't come out of nowhere. You have to see them coming, at least to a certain de..."I totally agree. The book is about her two sides, and showing that they don't necessarily cancel each other out, but can also compliment each other.
取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "Paradose wrote: "Katie wrote: "Natalia wrote: "@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value and don't come out of nowhere. You have to see them c..."*not reading the spoiler, because I haven't even finished the Mortal Instruments series yet, much less read the Infernal Devices series.*
Katie wrote: "取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "Paradose wrote: "Katie wrote: "Natalia wrote: "@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value and don't come out of nowhere...."I read the manga of some part of the first book.... It was good, but then I saw the real book...
(its the size of a bus)
Dahanci wrote: "Katie wrote: "取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "Paradose wrote: "Katie wrote: "Natalia wrote: "@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value and don't come o..."Yet it's one of my most favourite books ever!
Nessy wrote: "Dahanci wrote: "Katie wrote: "取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "Paradose wrote: "Katie wrote: "Natalia wrote: "@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value ..."Yeah, I'm probably going to find the rest of the manga version and read it, it started really well :3
Dahanci wrote: "Katie wrote: "取るに足らない (tina) wrote: "Paradose wrote: "Katie wrote: "Natalia wrote: "@ Tina: For me, "naturally" and "organically" would mean that things aren't done for shock value and don't come o..."Well, in my opinion, the bigger books are usually the better ones. :)
Diane wrote: "There's manga for the Mortal Instrument series?"I don't remember, correct me if Im wrong, but I think it's more of a comic book for TMI!
For The Infernal devices however, there is a Manga! :)
They are the prettiest!
Ok WE GOT OFF TOPIC! TID are gold, but let`s head back to Alyssa`s oh so frustrating love triangle!
Sydney wrote: "Bigger isn't always better"I read this and just started LOLing so hard.
FIRST THEORY-from the looks of ensnared and how the picture is jeb and also that he had the swirl marks of the Netherlands on his face I'd say that in AnyElswhere some of Morpheus' DNA got mixed in with Jeb's so he is now immortal and him and Alyssa - since they also had childhoods together will have a child that can also provide wonderland with a child to provide the dreams. SECOND THEORY- since jeb is sort of a homebody and he doesn't like wonderland, he will break up with Alyssa because she has to be in wonderland. He will break up with her on mutual understanding because she is realizing she loves Morpheus with all her heart. Jeb will find another girl. I honestly don't think Morpheus would be able to love another girl. I really really hope theory 2 plays out but ya never know :) :(
i think she will get eaten by the wood and be spit back out into two people. sorta. shes kind of an odd ball in both worlds for being a halfa. I think she will be spit back out in the end and the human half will stay with Jeb and the other will go with Morpheus :D
deleted user wrote: "Does Anyone Want To Hear My Theory???I Think Jeb is The Son of The *Red* Queen"
wait...... how?! i want to hear this theory!
Mia wrote: "...I'd say that in AnyElswhere some of Morpheus' DNA got mixed in with Jeb's ..."LOL, WHAT?!? That's hands down the craziest theory I've heard so far. How that would even be possible?
And no, the author said that Morpheus is the ONLY one who can have this child with Alyssa.
Kelly wrote: "deleted user wrote: "Does Anyone Want To Hear My Theory???I Think Jeb is The Son of The *Red* Queen"
wait...... how?! i want to hear this theory!"
Oh my Gods! That would be... Perfect! The whole Jeb and Alyssa relationship would HAVE to end because, hello, INCEST! ... Of a sort.
Nita wrote: "Kelly wrote: "deleted user wrote: "Does Anyone Want To Hear My Theory???
I Think Jeb is The Son of The *Red* Queen"
wait...... how?! i want to hear this theory!"
Oh my Gods! That would be... Pe..."
Oh I Know!
I Think Jeb is The Son of The *Red* Queen"
wait...... how?! i want to hear this theory!"
Oh my Gods! That would be... Pe..."
Oh I Know!
Kelly wrote: "i think she will get eaten by the wood and be spit back out into two people. sorta. shes kind of an odd ball in both worlds for being a halfa. I think she will be spit back out in the end and the h..."I have to admit that this is very interesting. But I would like Alyssa to actually to choose than comfortably to be split so both teams are happy.
Dahanci wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Bigger isn't always better"I read this and just started LOLing so hard."
;3
Although I don't even want to talk abut how Morpheus would react to this. "What?! Of course bigger is better! I can prove it, here c'mere look at my...wings." *slaps in face with wingspan*
Sydney wrote: "Dahanci wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Bigger isn't always better"I read this and just started LOLing so hard."
;3
Although I don't even want to talk abut how Morpheus would react to this. "What?! Of co..."
I literally just busted out laughing. Oh Sydney :D
[sub]Dahanci you be' my favorite little mothling, thinking I'm ever so funny cxNow is the time that I usually write fanfiction but I haven't any ideas and sjdflajshdlfasdf halp[/sub]
Sydney wrote: "Dahanci you be' my favorite little mothling, thinking I'm ever so funny cxNow is the time that I usually write fanfiction but I haven't any ideas and sjdflajshdlfasdf halp"
I found a song and I started writing
So I recommend anything that comes to your mind.
I'll name a few.
Funtimes in Morpheus' car (because you know you want to
Lemon tea
Rock climbing (I'm being serious, I was going to write something for that XP)
Morpheus finds a wish/Jeb finds a wish
Cats
A haircut (either good or bad)
Photos
Slenderman
How's that? :3
And I LOVE YOU SYDNEYI WILL GIVE YOU ANYTHING YOU SO DESIRE
except morphy
that sexiness is mien
OHMYGAHDOHSWEETNESSOHLAWDY...Morpheus and Alyssa in a car okay okay so many ohgosh okay yes Okay OKAY MUST NOT pANIC BUT SJHGFLJGF
post the link when it's finished, by the way cx
I call it the Daniel Radcliffe Factor, or Having a Square Face.
Jeb is on the verge of having one. But other than that..."
I can KILL for cheek-bones! LIKE LITERALLY! *thinks of Jamie Campel Bower in the role of Jace Herondale and starts to fangirl*