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message 51: by Barb in Maryland (new)

Barb in Maryland | 816 comments Hana wrote: "Portrait of an Officer

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Hana--who is the artist of this fabulous portrait? It is so beautiful.


message 52: by Elliot (new)

Elliot Jackson | 275 comments oh, my gosh, #45 is *definitely* how I am going to see Peter Merriott in my mind's eye from now on!


message 53: by Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ (last edited Aug 09, 2017 02:33PM) (new)

Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Elliot wrote: "oh, my gosh, #45 is *definitely* how I am going to see Peter Merriott in my mind's eye from now on!"

Hana is the best at matching paintings/photos to books! :)


message 54: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments Thanks, Carol! Barb in Maryland, the portrait is attributed to William Owen a British portraitist who worked mostly during the latter half of the 18th and early 19th century. He did a lot of military portraits. He died at 56 of an accidental opium overdose from a patent remedy that was mislabeled.


message 55: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments P.S. I'd guess from the uniform that the young man was in the British Navy and might have served in the War of 1812.


message 56: by Barb in Maryland (new)

Barb in Maryland | 816 comments Hana wrote: "Thanks, Carol! Barb in Maryland, the portrait is attributed to William Owen a British portraitist who worked mostly during the latter half of the 18th and early 19th century. He did a lot of milita..."

Hana---Thank you! I had also guessed Navy from the uniform.


message 57: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Elliot wrote: "oh, my gosh, #45 is *definitely* how I am going to see Peter Merriott in my mind's eye from now on!"

Yes! He is a handsome ( beautiful?) devil, isn't he? Thanks, Hana! Makes Peter more feasible for me, as well.


message 58: by Elliot (new)

Elliot Jackson | 275 comments Susan in NC wrote: "Elliot wrote: "oh, my gosh, #45 is *definitely* how I am going to see Peter Merriott in my mind's eye from now on!"

Yes! He is a handsome ( beautiful?) devil, isn't he? Thanks, Hana! Makes Peter m..."


Now, if Hana can only rustle up a similarly stirring Portrait of Kate! >: >


message 59: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Lol, yes!


message 60: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments Oooh! Now Kate is a much bigger challenge since women's portraits were more idealized. But I have a few front runners....


message 61: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments Contestant Number 1: I like the eyebrows which are not unlike Peter's.



1785 Susannah Edith, Lady Rowley by John Hoppner


message 62: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments Contestant Number 2: I like the saucy look in her eye but the bustline is, shall we say, a bit of a stretch.



Portrait of a Young Lady as Ceres, early 18th century, circle of Jean-Marc Nattier (1685-1766)


message 63: by Hana (last edited Aug 10, 2017 08:51AM) (new)

Hana | 652 comments And Contestant Number 3:



This is Lady Louisa Lennox, 1777 , George Romney. Painted in a man's style riding habit. She looks too serious to quite fit my image of Kate but with a different expression she might fit the part.


message 64: by Elliot (new)

Elliot Jackson | 275 comments Hana, you are amazing. I fancy Portrait #1 for Kate, but I could sort of see #3 as a portrait of Prudence/Peter as well, if I weren't so enamoured of the young naval officer.


message 65: by Barb in Maryland (new)

Barb in Maryland | 816 comments Elliot wrote: "Hana, you are amazing. I fancy Portrait #1 for Kate, but I could sort of see #3 as a portrait of Prudence/Peter as well, if I weren't so enamoured of the young naval officer."

Elliot, I totally agree with you. Lady Louisa is a very good Prue/Peter possibility.


message 66: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Lady Louisa looks like tilda Swinton to me.


message 67: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 2186 comments I know exactly what you mean Susan lol!!!


message 68: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments "Elliot wrote: "Hana, you are amazing. I fancy Portrait #1 for Kate, but I could sort of see #3 as a portrait of Prudence/Peter as well, if I weren't so enamoured of the young naval officer."

Thank you, Elliot! And yes I had exactly the same reaction. I loved the soft yet strong qualities in our young naval officer and I understand how Sir Anthony might be attracted and not quite know what it is he's being drawn to.


message 69: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments I love that picture of lady Louisa Lennox, she is captivating.


message 70: by Belinda (new)

Belinda | 220 comments Did people really use the term 'Egad' to each other in private conversations? Prue said it to sir Anthony when they were galloping across the countryside at night in chapter 19. Twenty seconds later he said it back to her. I also found the use of 'anon' jarring and very Shakespearean/ theatrical however I'm open to be convinced by the etomologists in the group that was in use at that time.


message 71: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments Both are 17th century expressions that probably were still in use a hundred years later.

On Egad! https://english.stackexchange.com/que...

On Anon: https://english.stackexchange.com/que...


message 72: by Belinda (new)

Belinda | 220 comments Thanks Hana. At least they aren't saying "like" all the time!


message 73: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments Belinda wrote: "Thanks Hana. At least they aren't saying "like" all the time!"

Oh, maybe it could be worked in as a culturally sensitive alternative to OMG: "And I was, like, Egad."


message 74: by Barb in Maryland (new)

Barb in Maryland | 816 comments Hana wrote: "Belinda wrote: "Thanks Hana. At least they aren't saying "like" all the time!"

Oh, maybe it could be worked in as a culturally sensitive alternative to OMG: "And I was, like, Egad.""


Oh Hana, LOL!! I love your sense of the ridiculous!!


message 75: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Yea, verily!


message 76: by Elliot (last edited Aug 13, 2017 06:44PM) (new)

Elliot Jackson | 275 comments Hana wrote: "Belinda wrote: "Thanks Hana. At least they aren't saying "like" all the time!"

Oh, maybe it could be worked in as a culturally sensitive alternative to OMG: "And I was, like, Egad.""


LOL! A mash-up of Valley Speak and Georgian cant could be truly hilarious!


message 77: by Belinda (new)

Belinda | 220 comments Hana. You crack me up


message 78: by Mary (new)

Mary | 58 comments This is my 2nd time reading this book, and I must say I'm enjoying it much more the second time around. The book's opening scene was a bit confusing the first time, but the humor is tops for GH once I got the premise. Personally, I think her humor is her strength (Cotillion); I find myself laughing out loud at some chapters. I'm reading a Sourcebook version; half of my GH collection is paperback, and half is Kindle. As always, thank you ALL for your comments, photos, and to Carol our Moderator !


message 79: by Hana (new)

Hana | 652 comments Mary, I also liked it a lot more on this, my second time around. What were some of your favorite comic moments? Kate flirting with The Mountain at the ball just cracked me up. S/he clearly inherited the Old Gentleman's wicked sense of the absurd.


message 80: by Belinda (new)

Belinda | 220 comments Thanks for the great pictures Hana


message 81: by Alathea (last edited Aug 27, 2017 05:42AM) (new)

Alathea Jane (vronlas) | 59 comments This has just been posted to another discussion group I'm in - it made me realise how much of an 18th century woman's costume was padding, and how easy it might have been to disguise a (small) young man as a woman.
Getting dressed in the 18th century:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...


message 82: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Very interesting- makes me glad I was born when I was ( well, that and science and germ theory and civil rights...)


message 83: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 2186 comments Just watched that youtube video. Holy Moley!!! I'd have been dead by lunchtime. I'm someone who doesn't feel the cold. Plus I've been going through the menopause for the past ten years and the inner heat is torture sometimes. I wear the minimum of clothing at the best of times. Coats are a complete no no and I only wear a jacket when absolutely necessary. So I'd be a goner if I had to wear all that malarkey.


message 84: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Bok (regency_reader) You'd do much better in the high Regency, Teresa! Me, too—and for the same reasons. (Though come to think of it, I look like a linebacker in an Empire waist, so perhaps I have to wait for the 1920s and go flapper.)


message 85: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 2186 comments The 1920's fashion was lovely Abigail. My daughter bought a flapper dress for a party and wore a bob wig. It looked fabulous and really suited her. Unfortunately I don't think I'd have the figure for it now :)


message 86: by Susan in Perthshire (last edited Aug 28, 2017 12:49PM) (new)

Susan in Perthshire (susanageofaquarius) | 1448 comments The Australian television series based on Kerry Greenwoods Phrynne Fisher detective series does a stunning job with 1920s fashions. everything about them - the fabrics, embellishments, accessories are just delectable!


message 87: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 2186 comments I've seen it Susan and love the series. I just love Phrynne's clothes. Fabulous.


Susan in Perthshire (susanageofaquarius) | 1448 comments Teresa wrote: "I've seen it Susan and love the series. I just love Phrynne's clothes. Fabulous."

They are aren't they? I would love an afternoon being able to rummage around that wardrobe department!!


message 89: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Yes, Phyryne was first to mind when Teresa said flapper dress and bob wig...


message 90: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments That actress is a stunner, fits my idea of Phryne to a tee!


message 91: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 2186 comments Same here. Couldn't imagine anyone else in the part. Someone on GR said they think there's a movie of it coming out. Would certainly like that.


message 92: by Susan in NC (last edited Aug 29, 2017 08:00AM) (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments I wish someone would give Greenwood's Melbourne- based "Earthly Delights" bakery mystery series the TV treatment - great characters and the bread/ muffin descriptions make me hungry!


message 93: by Howard (new)

Howard Brazee | 1 comments A major "character" is her home - which should be depicted correctly.


message 94: by Jacquie (new)

Jacquie Scuitto | 261 comments Alathea wrote:
Getting dressed in the 18th century:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...

I watched this and was reminded of my favorite doll whose 'clothing' was draped and pinned!
A novel I just finished had the heroine wearing 'jumps' which I had never heard of so I naturally had to Google this and finally found it on one of the last pages of references, Of course I can only find this definition now from Wikipedia:

jumps pl (plural only)

(fashion) A bodice worn instead of stays by women in the 18th century.

The article I found first gives more detail: a front laced corset without boning, worn informally at home or by pregnant women and nursing mothers.
Something new to learn every day!


message 95: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Howard - yes, I totally agree!

Jacquie- thanks for the info, I've never run across that term either!


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