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Aug 04, 2009 07:52AM
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I have started reading "Celtic Evil". I am on page 32. I love the story. Author has great imagination and talent, but every page is full of bad grammar. It is killing the book. On some pages there are so many mistakes it is impossible to ignore. I am going to try and finish the story. I think we have a very talented author here who needs an editor and maybe a college level writing course.
I agree,although for me it's more punctuation than actual grammar. It was hard for me to get past at first, but once the story grabbed me I was able to look past it. The fact that I'm still reading suggests that it is a good story. I'm a quick person to put down a book after the first few pages if it doesn't grab my attention.
I agree, it works the same way for me. I am very quick to put down a story. The fact that I am still reading it reflects my belief in author's talent.
I JUST got the book myself so that's my read for today.I wont diss the author on the editing because my book has the worst editing ever, so I know how she feels! lol
I think anytime you edit yourself, you are going to have mistakes. Only because you are reading it the way you intended it to be written and have a hard time catching mistakes. For example with my book (that I'm sure may still have lingering errors), I edited then read, "just incase", only to find at least 50 more errors. So I re-edited and re-read again "just incase" and found a bunch more again! I edited about 5 times. The fifth time I made approx 10 corrections. So, I figure there are still probably a few that I hope nobody will catch! I just couldn't stomach editting again!
I know how you feel lol At this point, I think a book is better with mistakes...it gives it character.I finished the preview of Celtic Evil A Fitzgerald Brother Novel Roarke and I really liked it. I'll be ordering the book soon.
Christy wrote: "I know how you feel lol At this point, I think a book is better with mistakes...it gives it character."
:) i like that!
:) i like that!
Sorry, I think grammar is very important. You get a serious reviewer who is not a friend or a family member to open that book and he/she can potentially destroy it after seeing all the grammar mess. I get all of mine edited, because I know that I am too wrapped up in my own writing to notice some mistakes.Besides, even after editing, some "evil" mistakes seem to slip in somehow. Bad grammar gives self-publishing a terrible reputation and seriously damages book's potential success.
Can I ask how much editing costs? I think I did mine pretty good, but it's a 98 page chapter book. Once I complete my adult novel, I will need an editor, because that is just too much for me to do.
I think it depends on the editor but few are cheap. I've seen them priced from $500-$2500 and one person on Lulu once said he paid $4500. I steer clear of such discussions as I come from the side of the coin of writers who can't afford such things and do the best with what is available.
My husband teaches English lit and English. Also,he is almost done with his Ph.D in American literature, so I get all of mine done for free by him. He is like a pitbull once he sinks his teeth into my writing. I defend every word and ask for explanations on everything he marks. Our children laugth at us. You get the idea.I would be very carefull who you give your book to edit. I have heard that there is something called "Editing Angels" (or similar to that)with very reasonable rates. Another way I would go is to contact a local university and ask a secretary of the English department to post a message for GRADUATE students only (majoring in English) and have them email you with rates. Some of these students may work at a writing center on campus. They would have better rates than online editors.
Sierra wrote: "I think it depends on the editor but few are cheap. I've seen them priced from $500-$2500 and one person on Lulu once said he paid $4500. "WOW.
I got great reviews on my book, the only problem people had was the editing so I took the mistakes as a blessing...
The editing was so bad that the story looked great in comparison.
Sierra wrote: "I think it depends on the editor but few are cheap. I've seen them priced from $500-$2500 and one person on Lulu once said he paid $4500. I steer clear of such discussions as I come from the si..."
I know exactly what you are talking about, but maybe you can barter with an English teacher or a graduate English student. I would offer free babysitting for so many hours, or tutoring in math and science, or something else you are good at for editing. Check person's credentials and go for it. It may take sometime but you will find someone willing to do it. You have a good book, it will be easy for an english major to read and to love working on it.
I think an english major is a great idea. Anything over 200 is almost not worth it because you r not guarenteed to recoup the costs.
True but again the rural aspect comes into play. Around me the teachers, even retired ones, don't do that sort of thing (heck, even when I was in school they didn't do that) and the students...my six year old nephew speaks plainer English and understands it better than the ones around here. Makes me glad I was tutored when I was and not in school today. So I deal with the typos as best I can and fix what fragments my WP points out.
I am reading Behind Every Illusion and I just received The Chosen Few in the mail yesterday. I also downloaded Celtic Evil and Familiar Scars yesterday. Once I get my tonsils out on Friday, I will have plenty of time to read between naps :)
You poor thing. At least u will have a good reason to eat ice cream!
Thanks for participating with so many of the books :)
Ice cream and liquid Vicodin (according to the dr.). Sounds like a great combination to me! I like reading these new books. I loved Behind Every Illusion (just finished that this morning) so I am looking forward to the rest!
I'm a bit slow on my reading this month but I'm halfway through Behind Every Illusion, and downloaded Celtic Evil a couple days ago. I also planning on ordering Vasilisa and the Queen of Asps because it sounds like the kind of book I will enjoy reading aloud to my almost 4 years old twin daughters.
I just read Kelly Meding, the debut author of an up-coming Urban Fantasy called Three Days to Dead. The book is amazing!
Thanks, Wendy, but this thread is meant for informing us of reading one of our group reads. Please let us know if you are doing so :)
Christy wrote: "I know how you feel lol At this point, I think a book is better with mistakes...it gives it character."I have to disagree. I think that it ruins the read.
G.H. wrote: "Christy wrote: "I know how you feel lol At this point, I think a book is better with mistakes...it gives it character."I have to disagree. I think that it ruins the read.
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I totally agree, bad grammar destroys the book.
I just ordered "The Nine Lives of Clemenza" ... shall report back when I receive and complete the book.
I just downloaded The Nine Lives of Clemenza and Vasilisa and the Queen of Asps. Thanks Holly for the freebie, and Svetlana for your very reasonably priced download. Will let you know what I think when I'm done
Svetlana wrote: "G.H. wrote: "Christy wrote: "I know how you feel lol At this point, I think a book is better with mistakes...it gives it character."I have to disagree. I think that it ruins the read. "
I totally agree, bad grammar destroys the book. "
I've been studying a lot of occult theory on language and have been impressed by the power of 'mistakes' and errors in literature. I know it's kooky but I've found the poetry and prophesy in typos and layman's grammer/spelling.
Hello all U just joined the group. Im a new author and have been on goodreads a while. Its a cool group and well i wanted to say hello.I did want to comment on something you said sherry. I completely agree editing your own work your bound to make mistakes because you wont see in your own writing what others will. I am working with a great editor right now whose been great in helping me clean up my latest work.
Sherry wrote: "I think anytime you edit yourself, you are going to have mistakes. Only because you are reading it the way you intended it to be written and have a hard time catching mistakes. For example with my ..."Even major-league editors miss things. Picked up a new release a few months back, a hard cover with a flyleaf and all, and on the third page, there was a "fo" instead of "of."

