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I have owned both. To be honest I didn't notice much difference except the iPhone had greater memory capabilities. I feel that my $35 Motorola is a much better value for the price.
Holly wrote: "I have owned both. To be honest I didn't notice much difference except the iPhone had greater memory capabilities. I feel that my $35 Motorola is a much better value for the price."The price is certainly super attractive. Don't they use Android as an operating system?
I have owned both, but I love the Android system for its versatility. I have owned the Samsung Galaxy S3, S5, and now S7. I had an iPhone 5s for work at one time.
I have used Apple as a desktop since the first Mac came out (I still have it stored away somewhere) so I have an iPhone for compatibility, but really, as far as phones go, I use it mainly for talking, being the dinosaur that I am. (Many of my emails involve a lot of technical stuff and are large, so the temptation to look at them on a phone approaches zero.)
Ian wrote: "I have used Apple as a desktop since the first Mac came out (I still have it stored away somewhere) so I have an iPhone for compatibility, but really, as far as phones go, I use it mainly for talki..."Not even a Goodreads app at your phone, Ian? -:)
No Nik. I am really short on apps. My daughter has got me into texting, but I really use a phone solely for messages. Anything else, something bigger. After all, I own a desktop and a laptop as well so why not use them?
Ian wrote: "After all, I own a desktop and a laptop as well so why not use them?..."Yeah, if you spend most of the time near bigger gadgets, you don't need the mobile as your portal into the cyberspace..
As the cellphone is pocket fit, the natural use is when one is out of home/office/yacht/ferrari
You drive a Ferrari while texting/surfing the web?? Horrors!
Ian wrote: "You drive a Ferrari while texting/surfing the web?? Horrors!"I try not to distract the driver while doing that
Oh dear, you have a Ferrari and miss the thrill of driving it :-(We lesser mortals would dearly love to take one onto a nice twisty turny road :-)
Can't surf, drink & drive. Sacrifices are inevitable -:)
Might be easier on the yacht. Less traffic :)As a lesser mortal, I use an Android for calls, texting, occasional Internet. Use my laptop for research, word processing, email.
Yes, Nik, sacrifices are inevitable, especially for we local peasants. The best I can manage is to drive myself up the local hills, staying sober in case the local traffic police shut me down, and I never was much good at surfing :-(
No worries, guys - no yachts and ferraris -:)Had a driver though for some years, as did every even quarter -, half - or full manager in former Soviet countries -:)
Did your driver chat, play music, or just drive silently? Just curious, as a person who's never had a driver.
Scout wrote: "Did your driver chat, play music, or just drive silently? Just curious, as a person who's never had a driver."Drinking is/was part of business ethics in those areas. You sign a contract - you raise a toast, make some money/lose some money/whatever the reason - the same, so having a driver is pretty much a must. Maybe even giving/taking a bribe inevitably led to a drinking spree -:)
I took my school mate for a driver. Although he has masters degree in chemistry and good command of English no less, he wasn't very particular in pursuing a career. He's all in diving and fishing, while working for living is an unwanted must for him. A friend is a friend, so never treated him as a subordinate of any kind and we are still friends long after our work ways parted.
Sounds like a cool guy and good friend. I like the way you put that: " while working for living is an unwanted must for him." Describes 90% of the working population - but in a nice way.
Reminds me of my last business lunch in Moscow (old USSR). About every quarter hour there was a toast to something, and if you didn't go along with it, nobody would talk to you. At the end of that I had to be driven out to the airport (or an airport - I think it was Sherementeyvo, but maybe not - anyway, it struck me as something of a diorganised dump) where I had to go through nine exit booths, some of which seemed to be occupied only some of the time, and with all the vodka, I wondered whether I was going to make it. A most bizarre day.
Scout wrote: "Describes 90% of the working population - but in a nice way. "I think, btw, statistics pretty much support this estimate.
A driver is a position of trust, I believe..
Ian wrote: "About every quarter hour there was a toast to something, and if you didn't go along with it, nobody would talk to you. ... an airport ...... where I had to go through nine exit booths, some of which seemed to be occupied only some of the time... "Sounds like Mother Russia indeed -:)
Hope it was a good travel and experience though
Nik, it was eye-opening, but I enjoyed it. There were some really weird memories. One - I had a strange visa and it took a while to wake up to it. It was issued by the State Committee for Science and Technology, and was almost a little book stapled into my passport. This gave me really strange subservience. Minor officials were almost scared of offending me, however there was a young woman who was to escort me around the few days I took off in Samarkand. At one stage we were driving somewhere and she stopped outside a store - she wanted to go shopping, so I followed her in. First, I couldn't understand - there was hardly anything on any of the shelves, but she strode up to the counter, a quick "request", the storeman bent down under the bench and handed her a bottle of Ponds shampoo - American! So much for equality of the masses. (She was almost certainly KGB.)
Ian wrote: "there was hardly anything on any of the shelves,..."Yeah, in the terms of deficits of all kinds, it often happened, that stuff needed to be procured rather than simply bought..
In the world of increasing economic and live fire confrontations, who's leading on the operating systems front: ios or android?
Making money Apple. Market share Android
I go with Android. As far as politics and software BS, Apple and Google are about even, but the hardware for Android can be worked on by the owner. On the Samsung Galaxy I've been using, it is a piece of cake to swap a battery or add memory. Changing a cracked screen is about a 15 minute job. And glory be, I can use standard USB, without a dongle. Can Apple users say the same?
J. wrote: "I go with Android. As far as politics and software BS, Apple and Google are about even, but the hardware for Android can be worked on by the owner. On the Samsung Galaxy I've been using, it is a pi..."I have been using Apple since 1986, when the choice was Apple or DOS, and the latter was taken up by businesses on the advice of "computer experts" because Apple was so easy to use they would be redundant. A well-written program then (and I had one) worked well until Ap-le switched to series 10 OS, and i am not sure how many MS programs could operate over that extended period. However, Apple now has developed bad habits, and the rort of requiring program updates is entrenched. As for batteries, I have a 9 year-old laptop and it still works so i haven't had to change the battery, although I admit its OS is starting to get too primitive for a lot of uses. I have never cracked a screen. I am not sure what the issue is with USB - my apple equipment can take USBs but I admit my desk computer is also getting fairly ancient. But the fact I can still use equipment 7 years later says something for the robustness of the design and construction.
Ian,I was limiting my comments to smart phones, though Apple has been gluing the batteries into some of their newer laptops. Apple does not want you being able to repair your phone. Instead they want you to peel off another $600-$800 every two years. Consequently, minor stuff that is easy on an android, like changing a battery, is a proprietary screw laced pain on an iphone. Plus when you opened it yourself, instead of taking it to an Genius Bar (they really aren't), you invalidate your warranty.
Re: USB
Apple removed direct USB compatibility from several of their recent iphones. Users were limited to Apple's proprietary Lightning cord, or buying an adapter, which they dubbed a dongle.
J.,Yes, as it happens I also have an iphone, and in fairness I never expected a USB outlet. I agree completely this business of making equipment redundant very 2 years or so is a rort, and in the case of phones is also a terrible waste of indium, which we are burning through our reserves rapidly thanks to the ridiculous replacement of phones. Not that I replace phones very often (I have ever only owned three.)
This was posted August 2019:Apple announced Thursday that it would expand its iPhone maintenance programs to include selling “the same genuine parts, tools, training, repair manuals and diagnostics” to independent repair shops for the most common out-of-warranty fixes.
Previously, a store needed to be part of the network of service providers officially authorized by Apple to purchase authentic materials from the company or to repair iPhones without voiding the devices’ warranties.
Nik wrote: "So, who's winning the battle?"Android; they follow two diferent marketing strategies targeting different audiences but despite that Android is and will win more and more market share and consequent revenue.
Both are basically just a nicely skinned front end for linux with "walled garden" features. china already noticed this and has their own linux based phone os. Fort George Meade will complain mightily.
I've always had a Samsung Galaxy but recently bought an iPhone. I wish I hadn't. Samsung has much better features and is more user-friendly. I'm surprised by the lack of features on my iPhone, but I paid so much for it that I'm stuck with it now. I'd advise against buying one.
I use my phone for a variety of things. But, if I want to actually read an article or my email, I pull out the computer. Bigger screen, easier to read.I had a windows phone. I liked it and it was the advent of Cortana and following the surgeries in both arms in 2012. Sadly, the apps were lacking and when the compatability of using the apps I could find became less useful, as they weren't updated often enough, I gave it up to go to Samsung android. I was so used to using computers, I found it much easier to manipulate the Windows phone (my 1st smart phone) into doing what I wanted. I suspect smart phones were simply less smart, too.
Android has more market share, but Apple has more revenue. Android has more apps downloaded, but IOS has more in-app purchases.
No idea who will win globally. In the USA, I suspect whatever is most convenient for the majority of the population will win out.
I miss my android phone. My iPhone keyboard doesn't have numbers at the top. Every time I want to type a number, I have to press a button to get it, and then press again to go back to letters. It's a pain. Also, my Samsung would vibrate when I picked it up to let me know if I had a message. Simple and effective. The iPhone doesn't do that. I have to check every time to see if I have messages. What a pain. And I don't like the alarm clock, which doesn't tell me how many hours until the alarm will go off. I regret buying an iPhone, which was supposed to be so user-friendly.
Scout wrote: "I miss my android phone. My iPhone keyboard doesn't have numbers at the top. Every time I want to type a number, I have to press a button to get it, and then press again to go back to letters. It's..."Sound remarks. We need to invite apple's customer care division to this discussion :)
Scout wrote: "I miss my android phone. My iPhone keyboard doesn't have numbers at the top. Every time I want to type a number, I have to press a button to get it, and then press again to go back to letters. It's..."My iphone makes a noise and vibrates when a message comes in, and if I haven't answered, it leaves a sign on the screen. As for the numbers, it offers more while taking up less screen space.
I am puzzled, though, about the alarm clock reference. Why do you want to look to see how long it will be before the alarm goes off? You have to be awake to do that, in which case you will know what the time is so you will know by simple subtraction..
Thanks, Nik. I agree.Ian, my iPhone doesn't vibrate for missed messages or calls. Tell me how to make it do that. I've researched it and haven't found a way. As for the keyboard, I want numbers at the top so that I don't have to go back and forth from letters to numbers. That's logical and time-saving. As for the alarm, if the iPhone is so user-friendly, then it should tell me the number of hours until the alarm goes off instead of making me subtract. I paid a lot for this phone, and I expect to have the subtraction done for me, as the Android did. Why is it making me use my brain? ;-) My brain is busy keeping me alive and solvent.
It doesn't vibrate after the call has come - that would flatten the battery. you have to open the screen from time to time and look.
Yet my android vibrated every time I missed a call or text without making me waste time checking. I'd say that makes android better than Apple. Wouldn't you?
I'm glad someone agrees with me, Melissa. When I replace this iPhone, I'll get another Samsung.
Which one do you fancy more?