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message 51: by [deleted user] (new)

math manipulatives
sight words
open classroom
learning stations
goal based learning
gag gag gag


message 52: by [deleted user] (new)

Data driven :(


message 53: by [deleted user] (new)

input
output
interface


message 54: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
I can outface your input anytime if it doesn't put you out!


message 55: by [deleted user] (new)

Will you also say "In your face!"-- kinda like "Ha, I outdid you!"

My gripe about data driven decisions as far as education is concerned is that all too often the data is insufficient to make a practical decision as to what needs to be done to "fix" the problem. Benchmarks and yearly state mandated tests are merely a snapshot of how the child did that day under those conditions. What if her pet cat was run over the night before? What if his father was picked up and taken to jail the night before? What if she suffers from severe test anxiety? What if, what if, what if . . .

Kids (and people in general) have way too many variables in their lives to be judged by one test given after 140 days of instruction (that year).

Oh my goodness, where did that soapbox come from? NE are you missing one?
*steps down and shuffles off stage right*



message 56: by [deleted user] (last edited May 01, 2008 10:11AM) (new)

Oh, oh, ohhhh .... how about higher level thinking?


message 57: by [deleted user] (new)

analyse then synthesize this


message 58: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Must be akin to higher order thinking! You take panthers Donna....I'll bring tigers for those who 'think outside the square'. Analysed and synthesised Moe?


message 59: by [deleted user] (new)

as in these functions are part of higher order thinking


message 60: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments One word grating at me is "folks."

How did people suddenly become just folks, even in national editorials? It sounds as if the speaker or author is trying to make you more comfortable, to let you know that he's one of you -- that he won't talk over your head. The usage ends up cloying and patronizing. In what evil staff meeting somewhere was the original order given to disseminate this cliché to the four winds?

Listen for the number of times you hear "folks" in everyday discourse. It'll drive you nuts, folks.


message 61: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Used car dealer, ambling across the lot in shiny sharkskin suit, adjusting loud tie and flicking a comb through his greasy hair, "What can I do for you folks?"

R


message 62: by Ken, Moderator (last edited May 12, 2008 12:06PM) (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
I've noticed the "folks" thing at restaurants from the waiters and waitresses: "How you folks doing?" or "What can I get you folks?" or "Have you folks decided on your order yet?"

Yes, it's intended to be friendly, but where I come from, we don't "do" friendly -- it has to be earned (oh, usually in around 7.5 years).


message 63: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Hi Relyt! And folks has truly disseminated...in use here too....once had a principal who started every morning tea in the staffroom by bellowing, "Notices, folks".


message 64: by [deleted user] (new)

I would have rather heard "folks" from my former principal than the "People! . . ." we came to loathe.


message 65: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Oh yes! 'People' as opposed to.....what??!!


message 66: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
The worst is when they say, "My people..." as if we're common chattel. You hear it out of "boss's" mouths all the time.


message 67: by Tyler (last edited May 12, 2008 03:51PM) (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments I can see the point of "folks" in selling used cars. But now it has gotten out of control:

"Folks with incomes exceeding $150,000 ... "

"The folks at the State Department ... "

At a certain point, you have to wonder what's wrong with "people." Of course, "Okay, people!" sounds almost as bad. Perhaps, "Okay, everybody ..."?

Nevertheless, the day I hear an announcer talking about the folks on the International Space Station, someone is going to have to help me to a chair!


message 68: by [deleted user] (new)

And it can be any chair of your choosing ... we have many styles here-- baroque (but we won't fix it), rococo, victorian, shaker ... or perhaps a chaise lounge? We used to have an Otto Man, but ... well it's a long story. Let's just say there was a pond or a lake involved.


message 69: by [deleted user] (new)

ha i'll always have a fond memory of black russians in the dumpster


message 70: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
:-)


message 71: by Ken, Moderator (last edited May 13, 2008 02:18AM) (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
"She's... gone!" -- The Wizard of What-Are-the-Odds

Well, that puts us at 189 members. Shall we save the door prize for when we hit 150, then? A reverse door prize (swinging door hits-you-in-the-ass prize)?


message 72: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
....'deleted member'. How awful. Anyway, I am still in touch with the inimitable moe (and I know what she looks like now too). And no prizes for regression!


message 73: by Sheila (new)

Sheila I hope she can come back soon. I enjoyed her posts.


message 74: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
No mo moe. Vamoose. I once saw one of those outside my camp up in Maine. It was a she-vamoose (cow, they're called). I'd share the story but I'm taking my story and going home because of no mo moe.


message 75: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments Here's a recent euphemism, I think: It's "home".

Whenever you look in the papers, you no longer find houses for sale. Only homes. Newscasters constantly refer to the current value of the "homes" in neighborhood, not the "houses." With the recent tornados in the American South, no houses were destroyed: only homes.

Is this right? Or am I too pedantic? I always made a distinction between the two, but maybe "house" is becoming archaic.


message 76: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
There's no place like house, there's no place like house, there's no place like house....

(And isn't there a medical show out called Home?) [tongue in home]


message 77: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
It's interesting that my husband, who's been in this country over 50 years, still mixes up house and building. As in, "It's down the street in the American Express house."


message 78: by Amy (new)

Amy | 21 comments I always learned that the difference between a house and home is that there is love in a home. How that figures into selling empty houses I don't know but I will always think of love as the difference.


message 79: by M.D. (last edited May 16, 2008 04:44AM) (new)

M.D. (mdbenoit) One expression that drives me crazy is "we're on the same page."

What the heck does it mean? Where does it come from? I naively thought the expression referred to a web page since it's only been a few years that it's on everyone's lips, but apparently not.

Regardless, it's an expression completely empty of meaning. What, we're on the same page, but it's blank?


message 80: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments What does it mean? Well, of course it means we're on the same wavelength, we see eye to eye, and we've had a meeting of the minds. So wavelengths, eyes, minds and pages are somehow metaphorically synonymous.

I think it started in school, where the teacher wanted to make sure all us students were following along. We had to be on the same page as the teacher, literally. Then it became a metaphor. Maybe that origin give it its annoying tinge.





message 81: by Sheila (new)

Sheila Yeah, whenever I hear the phrase I think of two people, heads together, reading from a single book, seeing (and hopefully understanding) the same thing at the same time.


message 82: by Jessica (new)

Jessica (jessica_swan) | 1 comments just tell them "yes, we're both on page 276, but in entirely different books!"


message 83: by [deleted user] (new)

Good one Jessica! Now if I can just remember it when I need it . . .


message 84: by Catamorandi (new)

Catamorandi (wwwgoodreadscomprofilerandi) I use this expression quite a bit. It is one of those phrases that just sort of pop out of your mouth. I mean that there is a melding of the minds when I say it. I like your comment, Jessica.


message 85: by Tyler (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments As I was pouring the milk in my coffee this morning, I heard it again: impacted

Impacted. I stopped and thought. Won't people ever get tired of that word? How did it get to the point that we hear it in every fourth or fifth sentence? Why can't people just say "affected?"

The earthquake doesn't "impact" the people of Sichuan, it "affects" them -- at least after the initial jolt.

So I was wondering, do other people agree that "affected" should resume its normal place in everyday speech?

Then I noticed the milk was running over ...


message 86: by [deleted user] (new)

Here's a towel for the milk Relyt.

I agree with your idea of returning to using affected instead of impacted. Impacted makes me think of wisdom teeth and the pain associated with having them removed (possible dry socket ... UG!)

:)


message 87: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Bugger!!! You stole my riposte Sarah!! :-)


message 88: by [deleted user] (new)

It's the dateline's fault!!!!!

Besides, you know what they say about great minds think alike :)


message 89: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
....or is it that 'fools never differ'!!!!! It's actually a bit scary that someone else on the other side of the world has similar thought processes to the point where a written response would be almost word-for-word identical!


message 90: by [deleted user] (new)

To quote you "teehee!" And oh, I'll have to use the "fools never differ"-- I haven't heard that before! But wait ... what are you trying to say about me? Just kidding, Debs :) So close to summer break makes me a bit giddy!


message 91: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
I can identify with that!! In fact I can't wait to identify with that!!!!


message 92: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Which reminds me of the dreaded "effect" vs. "affect." And yes, Virginia, there IS a meaning for "effect" as a verb, too...


message 93: by [deleted user] (new)

As in "How can teachers effect change when oour hand are tied behind our backs?"?


Julie (jjmachshev) (jjmachshev) | 193 comments I have a wonderful military euphemism. It's "voluntold", as in "you were absent last meeting, so now you are the volunteer 'fun run' representative for the commander". I could also include 'fun run' for obvious reasons and that good old standby oxymoron of "military intelligence".


I just read a book where the author used the term "skin sandwich". I shudder.
J


message 95: by Tyler (last edited Jul 09, 2008 09:40AM) (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments I heard this again today: Skyrocket

Can we all agree to declare war on this tired, worn out expression, wherever we hear it?
The idiots on television and in print think everything is more exciting if it skyrockets. Prices skyrocket, fire danger skyrockets, political rhetoric skyrockets.

The writers may think they've really said something exciting by using this word. But by now it's almost an insult to hear it. It's as if the listener isn't worth any more original consideration on the speaker's part.

I further submit that the use of this tedious, worn-out cliché should constitute prima facie evidence of the guttering poverty of the user's vocabulary.

Let's kill this word and bury it someplace cold.




message 96: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
Can't bury it in NZ...not cold enough and anyway....skyrockets are banned here...our nanny state thinks we might hurt ourselves!!!


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Bluedaizy | 7 comments This really isn't jargon, but it bugs the crap out of me anyways. Talking about news reports reminded me. You know when you hear about someone being murdered (happens all too frequently here in the states), the newscaster will say something stupid like, "and John Doe was killed for only $20 in the cash register". So what, would it be more acceptable if "John Doe" was killed for a million??? oh, don't get me started on stupid news reports. I can feel my blood pressure rising as I type this...grrrrr.....


message 98: by Tyler (last edited Jul 09, 2008 03:45PM) (new)

Tyler  (tyler-d) | 268 comments What about a robbery "gone bad." Is there really such a thing as a good one?

And no, don't remind me of that song, please!


message 99: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Afternoon delight gives sex a bad name -- and that's pretty hard (sic) to do.

Bluedaizy, worse than the newscasters are the weather folks. Especially on the Weather Channel. Talk about cliches! Talk about inanities! Talk about hyperbole!

But yes, the newscasters write as if we're drooling fools (or maybe as if they themselves are). Sportscasters are notorious, too.

The worst is when they jab a mike into the face of some sad sack who just recently survived a (fill in the blank: mugging, housefire, flood, explosion, etc.) and ask, "How do you feel right now...?"

I'm waiting for someone to scream, "Wonderful!" and then break out into "The Star-Spangled Banner."


message 100: by Nikki (new)

Nikki Boisture | 19 comments Bunny Watson, please tell me that "Afternoon Delight" makes you laugh because of Arrested Development. That's the main reason it makes me laugh, and although I know this is Goodreads, I can't be the only couch potato here thinking of Tobias telling the Bluth employees that was his wife and nephew up there singing Afternoon Delight!

I'm sorry, I don't know how to make italics on this thing....


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