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I also want moral characters. Even if the book is a secular title, if the author is Christian I expect the book to be clean and to have moral main characters. The H/h won't be having an affair on the page and won't be thinking it's okay. They won't be speaking with heavy innuendo. They won't be focused only on body parts. We as people are complex, and outward appearance is just one facet of who we are. Though I like looking at handsome guys just as much as the next girl, looking good doesn't give him any excuses to not be moral or Godly or gentlemanly. Hunky heroes better not be gold-plated jerks under all that exterior spit and polish.

I've read a few Gilbert Morris books..."
Dorothy the series is around 42 books long.

I'm sure the authors really appreciate it!!
Sam wrote: "Eva wrote: "You're all fabulous at answering!!! This is fun :)
New Questions:
How involved do you like to be with an author?
Do you like to help choose character names?
Be an author's first reader..."

I can't wait to publish the book with the name you suggested. Do you remember, Lachlan?
Yes, I understand completely about being ignored vs replied to, it can sting :(
I'm so surprised to hear that you've been promised books and never received them! :(
Always praying for your health. Constant illness/pain is hard to deal with.
Ausjenny wrote: "New Questions:
How involved do you like to be with an author?
It depends like Same I have been part of a review team which is great but I choose how much I can read etc. I do like to be able to hel..."

Sorry I can't help you think of the author's name
Ausjenny wrote: "Eva wrote: "Thanks, Jenny!
Sigh of relief here about generations, considering I'm going to indie publish three books on the grandchildren from Highland Hearts :)
Ausjenny wrote: "Eva I think some ..."

I can't wait to publish the book with the name you suggested. Do you remember, Lachlan?
Yes, I understand completely about being ignored vs re..."
Hi Eva, I had forgotten about Lachlan.
The book is Sanctuary for a Lady by Naomi Rawlings.
More often its authors who ask to be on a blog that don't send. It can be really annoying. I don't get to upset about it myself because I know I often don't have time to read all books I get anyway but if I host someone and they don't send then I feel bad for the winner. I have had to chase up authors at times and some forget and others are quite apologetic.

You also hit on the subject of another of my questions-purity. I'd like to know how you ALL feel about coarse language, or sexual innuendo. Would you accept a mild expletive like damn, or an era appropriate, drat! Or do you want the books you read to be totally free of any expletive?
What about sexual innuendo? Do you want all hints of sexual attraction eliminated--even between husband and wife? Is it all right with you if a husband and wife are in bed talking and they kiss with their love expressed, not desire?

Thanks!

With a book if the couple are married its realistic for them to be in bed talking and kiss but I want closed doors. I want a clean read so I don't mind them being attracted to the other person and even thinking they are hunky etc but I don't want sexual descriptions and innuendo. I have read a couple of books with a rape scene (Christian fiction) and I felt the author went to far in describing the rape. While she didn't totally write a sex scene she did write a rape scene which left me feeling really uncomfortable and I know others who read the book felt the same way. It was to much info and while the issue was important to the storyline it could have been done in a better way without having the info. It wasn't a LI book or by one of the bigger Press's in America as they wouldn't let the scene stay as it was. I don't want that sort of scene.
Also I think on the verse not sure of where it is but I think it was from one of Paul's letters telling us not to do something that could make a fellow Christian stumble. Writing a sex scene and for that matter swearing could cause a fellow Christian to stumble and have an issue especially if they have or have had issues with either topic.

Sigh of relief here about generations, considering I'm going to indie publish three books on the grandchildren from Highland Hearts :)"
I like generation stories too - Janette Oke's Love Comes Softly series is a favourite. (And I like that she incorporated a Woman of the West book into that family too). Janette stopped writing though because she would have to kill off everyone's favourite couple Clark & Marty as they were getting too old to carry on living!
Having enjoyed

Sam wrote: "Wendy wrote: "Tiger!

I have been thinking about getting this book :)"
I recommend it, Sam! I was a bit apprehensive, considering the time period of Christians being thrown to lions, but I felt Carla did a good job of writing the realities without making it too gory for me to stomach! One of these days I'll get the other 2 books in the series! :) I'm pretty sure you'll love Cat! I found it interesting to see into the life of a gladiator.

I completely agree, Hannah!

Hannah, I'm not sure which series you're talking about. Our Love Inspired books don't have either profanity or sensuality. Sorry if I missed something in the discussion. Please repeat the series title.

I think the UK and Australia may be similar because I agree with you on all those words! And yes, there is a certain word that is unfortunately rising it's head again in American fiction along with another one beginning with B. I have huge problems with those words as they are so strong here and yet like you think it is quite mild in America.
One thing that really put me off an author was her use of that word in a book set in England. She probably thought she was using a mild word, but for me, it was even harder to accept given how strong that word is in our country. It left an even bigger bad taste in my mouth!

See Message 251. :) - I think she's talking about her current read, answering the generation question in general not about the LI line, or one from the LI line, like I did using the Love Comes Softly series by Janette Oke & Jenny did with Gibert Morris' House of Winslow series.
That is one thing I like about the LI line - you can pretty much depend on a clean read - both on language and sensuality. I have noticed though that authors I have enjoyed with the LI line I haven't liked their Indie releases as much, possibly because they don't see the need to conform to guidelines like LI has.

Christine, I like a few days' growth of beard--IF--the man can grow a beard. :) Not if all he has are a moustache and few hairs on his chin and along his jawline.

Becky, I LOVE this! I wonder if he was Confederate or Union?

Thanks, Wendy. I will admit I have some stronger situations in my non-LIH books, but no profanity. My biggest "offender" is Ahab's Bride, which was my master's thesis, written in 1999 and published by David C. Cook in 2004. It's about Captain Ahab of Moby Dick "fame" and the innocent Christian girl he marries. Nothing explicit, of course. After that book, I toned things down considerably in my writing, but the book is still out there as in indie. The problem I have with taking it down is that the spiritual lessons of the story take precedence over the earthy. In my study of Moby Dick, I came to the conclusion that Captain Ahab was seeking to kill the white whale because he wanted to kill God. This idea was backed up by many Christian scholars. As for my heroine, who was the only POV character, she foolishly married a man who was attractive and powerful. She lived to regret it. Then in the second book, Hannah Rose, she had learned how to make better decisions.
Sorry if this is too much. Let me finish by saying I'm very happy writing for LIH and I'm very sad they're closing the line.

I was cracking up at the historical facts people think are wrong tidbits, because I have that happen from time to time as well. And I do a lo..."
I will follow authors I love everywhere they go... just so long as I can find them when they show up in unexpected places!

I think there is a whole lot of historical books set in the US and in Western Europe (..."
I would like to see books in the first 100 or 200 years of the Christian church. I don't see much at all about how new Christians lived.

Do you like the story to stop as soon as the hero and heroine express their love for one another, or do you want a wedding as the final moments.
~ I don’t have to have a wedding scene. If they are engaged at the end or it’s pretty obvious that’s where the relationship is heading I’m happy. It depends on if the book is in a series. In a series I can sometimes catch up with the couple and hear about the engagement or wedding in the following story. If it’s a stand-alone book I think I would prefer an epilogue that is either the wedding day or a glance of the character’s lives after they have been married for a time.
What unusual animals have you seen in stories? I mean beyond horses, cats, and dogs.
~ Can’t think of the author but in one of the LI Amish series one of the heroines had an alpaca farm! I also loved Cat from Carla Capshaw’s Gladiator series and I agree she did a wonderful job keeping the blood to a minimum.
Does anyone else have a preference for siblings in series, instead of random people who happen to live in the same location?
~ I like both but with siblings and or family members it seems you get to catch up more with the previous characters.
How involved do you like to be with an author?
~ I love facebook and the Goodreads and Harlequin Boards cause you really get to know the authors.
Do you like to help choose character names?
~ I think it’s fun when the authors let us throw out names for a character. Whether it’s a main character or an animal I enjoy helping.
Be an author's first reader/reviewer?
~ I don’t mind but I find that at times it’s hard for me to find the time.
Or are there any other things that you love or hate?
~ I love the authors sharing with us on the boards about their current projects, what’s next, and fun things they have learned or the story behind their stories.
About series books. I wanted to do a Down the years series that followed certain residents in a small town. The series (Pinewood Weddings) started with the town's beginning and then followed four childhood friends. What I wanted to do, was follow the descendants of those four friends and the Pinewood town through the important eras of American history, the wars etc. to see how they effected the families. The editors nixed the idea. So my question is: Would you like to read a series like that?
~ I think that would be interesting, instead of the characters growing it would be the town we would see growing. I can’t believe the editors nixed the idea since it’s basically what they did when they did the Lone Star Cowboy League. You met the current league in the LI series and then you met the founding members in the LIH series. Maybe because it crossed past and present they went with it.
You also hit on the subject of another of my questions-purity. I'd like to know how you ALL feel about coarse language, or sexual innuendo. Would you accept a mild expletive like damn, or an era appropriate, drat! Or do you want the books you read to be totally free of any expletive?
~ Too much language can get me out of a book. I have to remind myself that everyone spills up. I know I do so I try not to let it bother me. I get really annoyed when it’s like every other sentence. As for sexual innuendos I did read hotter books when I was in my early twenties. I had just discovered romance novels and really was reading basically anything. I found a LI book in a garage sale and started getting them through reader services. As I read more of them and got stronger in my walk with Christ the more the sexual innuendos bothered me to the point I basically only read LI, LIS, & LIH. Now with LIH leaving I need to find some new historical romances with the same type of values. I have read some LIH where the hero and heroine are married and the go to bed together and the next chapter is the following morning. That’s fine with me I don’t mind if one they are married and two except of some kissing the scene basically fades to black.
What about sexual innuendo? Do you want all hints of sexual attraction eliminated--even between husband and wife? Is it all right with you if a husband and wife are in bed talking and they kiss with their love expressed, not desire?
~ Again as long as they are married and it really doesn’t go beyond a few heated kisses I am okay with it.
As a follow-up to my last question about sexual innuendo between a husband and wife... If any of you have read the first book (His Substitute Wife) of my present LIH Stand-in-Brides series, would you please tell me, without giving any details that might spoil it for others) what you thought of the last scene of the last chapter and of the epilogue?
~ I haven’t gotten a chance to read it but now you have my interest peaked.
I am having a blast this week and look forward to answering more of are wonderful author's questions.

Mazo de la Roche did this years ago with her WhiteOak Chronicles... I remember I had an assignment in high school where we were supposed to do our family tree. I got approval to create the family tree of the de la Roche series instead! It was really hard, but great fun. I loved that series.

Yes! I remember these too!

Thanks for the detailed explanation, Jenny. We're pretty much on the same page as far as these subjects. Perhaps that's because my Father WOULD have knocked me into the middle of next week if I had ever used a word like that. : ) I thank him for it.
But, some Christian authors I know (NOT LIH) say they would like to write more "real" books. And that reality includes swearing and other activities. They say their readers appreciate the "real" books.

Yo..."
I do downgrade a book's rating if it includes expletives like d*. In my personal copy, I scratch them out, but still don't think it appropriate. A Christian book should be free of offensive words, and most of my friends are exactly the same way with reading material. Same way with foreign curses (usually I've seen this with French)...just because it's in another language doesn't make it okay. For other emphatic words, they'd better be super sanitized to be okay with me, but they probably won't show up in my rating. For example, many words are "derivatives" of worse expletives, like Gee, gosh, freaking, darn, and so on. Words that aren't connected to expletives/profanities are fine: rats, my word, goodness, etc
I hate reading crudities as well (cr*, etc)
As Jenny has said, many Americans have begun to use the term bl*y. I don't think they know what it means. It is a very old British curse (1600s) that is a short version of the term "God's blood." Obviously, that makes it a very strong profanity. I was a bit flabbergasted when it showed up in Colleen Coble's "Because You're Mine."
Also, doing your research. "Driving me bonkers" is "driving me crazy" in America because it sources from a different root and doesn't have a British connotation. (Kind of like the word gay used to mean something different, though that meaning did hop the pond.) To "bonk" someone here means to get bumped: "I bonked my head on the corner of the cabinet." But in UK it has a sexual meaning, which I was totally shocked with. Not at all the same here.

Yes, it was the series in message 251. Secular series from the 1940s/1950s. The words aren't generally very "bad" ones, but there are quite a number of them.

You make an interesting point about some of the LI authors not adhering to the LI guidelines in their indie books. Does that make you pass on buying their indie books, but still buy their LI books?

Christine, I like a few days' growth of beard--IF--the man can grow a beard. :) Not if all he has are a moustache an..."
Hehe. Definitely! If you can't grow more than scraps of beard, don't try...it's really irritating for me to look at. ;)

I will give an author a chance with an indie book but if I do not like it because of language or situations then I tend to be careful before buying another of that author's indie books but I will still buy the LI books.

Also, kisses...please leave tongue and teeth out of it!!! Mentioning the "taste" of a kiss is fine and good, but describing how far they get down each other's throats is TMI.
For an example of desire done well, recent favorites are A Love So True (unmarried) or High As the Heavens (married). For not done well, Rescue Me (unmarried, teeth in the kiss, lots of focus on wanting to go farther) or An Uncommon Courtship (married, heavy focus on trying, failing, taking clothes off, sleeping together, figuring out what to do in bed, being gentle, having pain in the act...)

Yes. Once burned on an indie book, I don't buy another. If it's a free second book, I might try another, but not likely. I don't have time for risky reading. I may get their LI books with my Harlequin rewards points, if the synopsis sounds good, but I don't spend money on them after that.

Many of their readers are in emergent churches or are heavy readers of secular books. Why not simply write secular? Also, their fans tend to be rude and confrontational when someone doesn't like the content. Many readers will follow an author's path, but it does narrow the audience. A Christian book is a specific market anyway, and a Christian book with content reaches an even smaller group.
Some people don't mind content, but that doesn't make it right for a Christian to promote lustful or profane thoughts.

Well, this is proving very helpful to me. I appreciate everyone's honesty. The last thing we want to do is drive readers away.


Yes, I would. Sounds interesting.

What about sexual innuendo? Do you want all hints of sexual attraction eliminated--even between husband and wife? Is it all right with you if a husband and wife are in bed talking and they kiss with their love expressed, not desire?"
I don't mind mild language, but not too much. I remember being a beta reader for an author once and she'd used some foul language at one point (and it might have been considered called for) but I still encouraged her to remove it, because I know a lot of Christians don't like that.
Now about sexual innuendo; I do think that it makes it more real. I'm not taking about being any kind of explicit, but I read The Cautious Maiden by Dawn Crandall and I love that she tackled those hard issues. In her book, there attraction between the hero and heroine, even before they are married, that makes it real to me.

You might not be on FB, but you sound very involved with authors! Great list of things you like to get involved in!
Hannah wrote: "For author involvement...I love things like this, getting to know authors, chatting about likes and dislikes in books. I also like it when authors share snippets of works-in-progress on their blogs..."

Hannah wrote: "Things I hate are generally content related. I cannot stand a book with any kind of profanity or heavy sensuality (one big reason I've been slow on the above-mentioned series, because of quite a bi..."

And I'm glad most are apologetic
Ausjenny wrote: "Eva wrote: "Jenny, you do so much for authors :) So appreciated!!!
I can't wait to publish the book with the name you suggested. Do you remember, Lachlan?
Yes, I understand completely about being i..."

Love Comes Softly is on Netflix and I'm still trying to find time to watch it :)
Wendy wrote: "Eva wrote: "Thanks, Jenny!
Sigh of relief here about generations, considering I'm going to indie publish three books on the grandchildren from Highland Hearts :)"
I like generation stories too - J..."

Laura AKA Loves 2 Read Romance wrote: "Morning everyone! Here are my latest answers:
Do you like the story to stop as soon as the hero and heroine express their love for one another, or do you want a wedding as the final moments.
~ ..."

What about specificity? Do you like a cover that's super-specific to the book, with the hero and heroine or just one of them, or does an atmospheric cover with say a fan or flowers or an interesting house intrigue you?

New Questions:
How involved do you like to be with an author?
Do you like to help choose character names?
Be an author's first reader/reviewer?
O..."
How involved do you like to be with an author?
I love doing either beta reading or reading the ARC copy and reviewing. I'm a member of several street teams. However, I have to pick & choose authors, or I wouldn't have time to help promote their books. But I do take time to promote books that I'm not on their street teams, especially whem I love their books.
Do you like to help choose character names?
Yes, that is sometimes fun.
Be an author's first reader/reviewer?
Yes, but if the books not too high, I often buy the book also, so the review will be a verified purchase.
Or are there any other things that you love or hate?
I love hearing inside stories of why they wrote the book or about some of the characters.
I love these covers that are coming out now!
I hate waiting for the next book! Haha!
I hate that sometimes the books I can't wait to read have to wait until I finish the books that I agreed to read or won. I always want to read more!
I don't enjoy books that have many typos, either.

New Questions:
How involved do you like to be with an author?
Do you like to help choose character names?
Be an author's first reader..."
Oh, yeah, typos.....definitely huge for me!!

Wh..."
Regina,
All three work for me. It just needs to catch my eye.

It's fun to interact with authors - whether it's just in a book group, on their FB page, or through email.
Do you like to help choose character names?
I've suggested names. I even found sites with names in the eras that they were looking for. I don't think anybody actually used the names I suggested yet,though!
Be an author's first reader/reviewer?
No. I'm not a fast reader and have a zillion books to read. So I prefer not being a "time-sensitive" reviewer.
Or are there any other things that you love or hate?
Love different kinds of e-newsletters. Some are just new cover-reveals. Some are just once-a-month with reflections on what's been going on and book news. Some are Bible reflections. I even have one author who has a WWII history blurb every day.
Hate it when I find misspelled words!

Really good Christian fiction authors don't NEED to use language - they have enough ways to hint at it without using it.
"Muttering a string of swear words" for example, is enough for me!
Basically the same thing when relating to sex. I don't need specific details. Again, really good authors don't need the nitty-gritty details - they have enough ways to insinuate what's going on.

What about sexual innuendo? Do you want all hints of sexual attraction eliminated--even between husband and wife? Is it all right with you if a husband and wife are in bed talking and they kiss with their love expressed, not desire?""
I prefer no bad language or "he cussed" / "he swore" ways of expressing it. However, I don't mind era appropriate expletives like drat. I don't understand why people consider d*mn a mild expletive--isn't this essentially a short version of cursing a person to hell? Sounds pretty serious to me. Anyway.
I don't want to read details regarding sex or even kissing that gets the reader "hot and bothered" so to speak. I don't mind hugs, cuddling, or non-intense kisses. I don't mind being told that married people are enjoying their time in the bedroom. I just don't want the details, thanks, or it becomes porn.
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