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Apr 30, 2017 08:50AM
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Question: Does anyone know how to pronounce the Irish Wolfhound Luadhas name? I've had it in my mind (for years), but I don't think it's correct and I'd love to know the correct pronunciation. Thanks!
SamuraiKitty wrote: "Question: Does anyone know how to pronounce the Irish Wolfhound Luadhas name? I've had it in my mind (for years), but I don't think it's correct and I'd love to know the correct pronunciation. Th..."
The DD compainon says:
'LOOuhus (with a dental not a pallatal 'l' sound: try saying it with your mouth full)'
That's a bit random - I am still none the wiser
I also noticed under this entry is
'Lymond: LYE-mond'
WHAT!!! no! I have had it wrong in my head all this time - I had it down as limond, as in limmy...oops
AAGGGHHHculter: cool -ter or coo-ter (as in coulter's candy).
in my head it was Cutler (good with knives - it all made sense)
I would never have realised!
Lol. I'm going audio this time around and the narrator of GoK said it LYmond, but the one for QP says it Limmond... So I'm no help in that department. :p
Yeah, the narrator of books 2 thru 6, Andrew Napier, used Limmond for his first 2 books, then must have been corrected by somebody... he uses Lye-mond for the rest of them. I still like his portrayal of Francis LOTS AND LOTS better than the guy who did Game of Kings. That old guy made him sound like a 50-year-old hammy stage actor, not the young brilliant silver-tongued devil he was!Dorothy has said she intended it as Lye-mond, but didn't really care how people said it.
to be fair, there is a huge variation in vowel sounds in regional accents across Scotland so we can probably get away with what ever we feel fits best
DD said LYEmond was correct. It took me ages to accept that as it had always been Limmond for me, too. Then I heard a Scot pronounce Francis Crawford of Lymond and it made perfect sense. I guess you need to hear the accent.
Andrew Napier! Yes, he's the Limmond culprit! Good to know. :)
I actually liked the GoK reader. But I do listen to a LOT of audio books so I'm used to a variety of voices. I see that Napier got the gig for the rest of the series, so he must be doing something right.
I actually liked the GoK reader. But I do listen to a LOT of audio books so I'm used to a variety of voices. I see that Napier got the gig for the rest of the series, so he must be doing something right.
I didn't even realize the definitions were in the back of the companion! (Shows how observant I am). I always thought it was "Cutler" too, and I've been saying Buccleugh wrong in my mind as well. :)
SamuraiKitty wrote: "I didn't even realize the definitions were in the back of the companion! (Shows how observant I am). I always thought it was "Cutler" too, and I've been saying Buccleugh wrong in my mind as well. :)"I am so glad someone else got that wrong too! I think you can be forgiven Buccleuch, I have to google it every time I need to spell it
the cheetah hunt is one of my favorite parts of the book - the terrified hare, brave luadhas and the unsettlingly evil cheetah, it is great drama and fantastic to read aloud. A bit of a metaphor too, for the unsuspecting mary, being hunted through France, by some unknown evil.
Good one. It's such an important scene and is reference throughout the rest of the novel. I always think about the sacrifice of brave Luadhas but I like the bunny analogy a lot.
luadhas only features in a few paragraphs and only in this chapter but is the thing I remember whenever I think about this book.
It never occurred to me before that Luadhas was in such a short amount of the book, because she and that hunting scene are one of the first things that come to mind for me about this book.
my edition of the book on kindle has a nice illustration of the hunt of the front, the dogs running and the cat perched behind its keepers saddle.
Imagine how well trained those horses had to be to allow a cheetah to sit perched on their backs!????? (And I know they sat on platforms, but still!) It boggles my mind to think that they hunted with big cats! That art work is very cool Giki.

