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A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles (Anything Goes BOM); Starts May 12, 2017****REVISIT informal buddy reads starts August 3, 2018
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
Nope, I really don't have a lot of background on Russian history or politics so I'm going into this book with a pretty clean slate.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
He seems to be making the best of his new situation. Even if he is being moved to a dinky attic room, he's trying to make it "his" as much as possible. He seems good with change and doesn't get all caught up on what he used to have and what life used to be like for him.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
LOL! Yes... It's hard to read something that doesn't particularly interest you. You try to do whatever you can to make yourself more comfortable or to make the reading seem to go faster.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
It's definitely a big adjustment for him. Our practicalities are a bit different from his practicalities. But he's definitely got a good attitude and is adapting to his new environment by just going with things as much as he can and trying to get a few of the more refined/nicer things he's used to along the way. Sometimes it's the little things...
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think it's because he's been stripped of his title whereas he is still very much a 'gentleman'.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
Nina seems to help Alexander look at his new world in a different way than he would if it were just him or if he were just spending time with other adults. Nina brings a breath of fresh air into Alexander's world and keeps things from being too stagnant.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I don't have much knowledge about this, except what I read in Ken Follet's the century trilogy... So not that much loll I feel I would have understand better if they gave us some points in time.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
He took what had the most sentimental value to him and I think I would do the same (of course I would have taken the whole pile of books also!!)
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
We all have strange reading habits and the tilting of the chair is his thing. Personnaly I like to be more confortable than in a chair when I read, but I guess he got used to it. Also, when I don't like a book, it is soooo long to read that I get bored and usually don't finish it.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I think it means that he will continue living life as nothing has changed. And in fact, I admire him because he doesn't let himself drawn in despair that he won't be able to quit this hotel. He tries to find the small joy in every day.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think it is more related to the fact that a gentleman is a person that doesn't have a job and who is more a socialite than anything else.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
She is in the same situation as the count. She is trapped inside this hotel because she cannot go to school, so they have this in common where they want to escape this hotel when they can.
Alison wrote: "Is this book making anyone else really hungry? All the descriptions of stews, roast beef and Yorkshire puddings, and ice cream is giving me serious cravings for comfort food."Definitely! Many of the dishes I have never heard of though so I am having to look them up. It has been quite a culinary education. I think I would most like to try the Latvian stew so far. 8-)
Day 3 Discussion Questions14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
I was not surprised he told a stranger. Sometimes it is easier to tell a stranger something so personal. No, I do not feel the Count is responsible for what happened. His sister's heart would have been broken either way. And I don't see a connection between what happened and her eventually contracting an illness. This my be affecting him even now. His apparent acceptance of his imprisonment as a possibility that he deserves it. And contemplation of suicide on the anniversary of her death.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I do think he was serious. But the honey made him realize there are good things left in life. It is up to us to make the most of it, so we have no regrets in the end.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
This one I had to mull over. The Count has it the worst. Living in your country without freedom to roam about. This is truly prison. Being exiled to another country is almost like being on vacation, at least in the beginning. Then, eventually you could set down roots. A person would be able to go to all other countries as well. Being exiled from cities in your own country is trickier. The comforts and familiarity of your home country could still be yours. This person would be an outcast, though. And some freedoms taken away. Not as bad as being confined in a hotel.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
Nina is growing up and experimenting with new ideas and relationships. Totally normal. I do hope she will return to the story. And yes, it would be nice if the Count and Nina were close friends again.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
I actually admired Anna's perseverance. Lessons learned about setbacks are important. I think the Count and Anna understand each other better now and that is how their affair got started again. I think the relationship is good for the Count, whether it lasts or not.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I also enjoyed this section. It really did show just how much these three have bonded. They did not want to tell Bishop about this because this was only for the three of them. It was a meal they could only share infrequently. So it was even more precious. It brought back memories for them all, sealing their bond even more.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
Osip is a smart man. Trying to understand other cultures is important when it comes to negotiating with them. I am not sure exactly what the Count will gain. Possibly Osip may be able to help the Count later?
Lusie wrote: "I hadn't looked at it that way yet, Viji and Cali. A break day does give people the chance to catch up. You might have guessed I'm a fast reader. Viji, I don't agree that slow reading makes you e..."
I found the book difficult to get into at first. Reading this slowly and having to answer structured questions has helped me tremendously to appreciate the story. It has kept me more focused. Otherwise, I think a lot would have been overlooked.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works
Yes I have read a few of the more well known Russian literature. I would definitely say that there are some hints of it in this book. Especially in the "moseying about" way of storytelling.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
I loved when Anna came in. She brought a bit of spark and outside influence. Even though she exuded fakeness, I still liked her unapologetic air. I loved the dealings with the dogs and then the way she carries herself
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I just spoke of Anna, but given her final thoughts we have not seen the last of her
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I do not think this is the last of the COunt's friends, but as with any of us as time goes on, so does life, and we lose touch sometimes, and sometimes we reconnect. I don' feel as tough it's attached to Anna at all, though it is weird that he is projecting that onto her.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I don't like the Bishop and I can't understand why he is still employed there to be honest. The wine cellar is an interesting idea, I wonder if this sort of thing really went on during that time period (the removing of the labels)
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I would say the narrator is the Count looking back on this almost and then commenting on it. I think the narrator is more reflective and amused as opposed to happy or not happy
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I think that he is finally feeling the wall closing in on him. There is a lot of the story that is aloof and never really goes anyway
Day 3 Discussion Questions14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
It was a bit of an odd and unexpected story, although he had consumed copious amounts of alcohol at that point and it is easier to be honest with those that we cannot lose with our honesty so it's not overly strange that he shared intimately with a stranger
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
This felt more like a cry for help. He wanted to feel something but he wasn't really ready to let go. He was just waiting for someone to notice or for something to happen and it did. As you can see that he has not (within the story) given much though to taking his life at any other time.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
There's a lot of ambiguity here for me with the actual crimes and punishments. However the count isn't living so much of a different lifestyle from a hotel he resided in for 4 years prior to the confinement. he is free to go within this large location and the shops and now even to work there. I do wonder if they stand outside and wait to shoot him after so much time has passed
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions
I feel like there is a weird sexual tension and he has a weird possessiveness towards her. I really hope it doesn't turn into anything. But I don't think we have seen the last of Nina
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
Anna was humbled and become a bit more honest with herself and with the Count. However the Count is not as interested in her honesty. He likes fine things in life. And I wonder how long Anna will remain one of those things for him.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
At this time, so many things were hard to come by and very coveted. If someone knew what the dish called for and to taste it, they would know that some of the ingredients may have come in ways that were not easily explainable. The black market for items runs rampant through these pages. I do wonder who the Count's benefactor of ingredients is though
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
This could really go either way to be honest. But I do think that we will find out some interesting things from it on both accounts
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?I have read a many of their works and yes the author is spot on. It gets quite confusing.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
The story about the actress that thought she would have a good laugh by dismissing him like he was nothing more than a booty call. Then the addendum where her childish behavior ensued.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I hope so
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I think the count is depressed and feeling useless. After the insult where they made all the wine red/white was the end of his rope.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I am sure it was him. He was embarrassed by his lack of knowledge of the wines and since many of the servers union lack of knowledge of the wines instead of taking the time to learn the wines they said it was something the aristocracy and must be wiped from the land. The count takes great pride in his knowledge of food and beverage. Andry must feel similar. I'm still angry about it:)
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
The author was me identifying with him to the point where I'm depressed. Pride took him back to Russia and I'm wandering since then next chapter is 1926 whats going to happen. I'm on the edge of my seat.
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Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
I'm honestly not that surprised he told this story to the Englishman. The man was a gentleman so the Count would have seen him as an equal in class, and also an outsider with whom he can freely discuss his aristocratic background without being afraid of getting misconstrued as someone actively working against the government. I think he doesn't feel responsible; he talks about how Fate is like the changing weather, so unpredictable and uncontrollable. He doesn't feel responsible, but he is still depressed by how events turned out.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I think he would have. Tasting the honey reminded him of all the good things he had experienced in life, and having the beekeeping friend there reminded him that there were people who still knew him, that he wasn't "ghost-like", per se. I think both knowing he had a friend and remembering how good life could be gave him hope that life could be good again.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
In another country, he would have freedom to live as he pleased, so I would think that it is a worse punishment than exile. However, there are plenty of stories of exiled people who long for their native soil. And the Count returns for precisely this reason earlier, so I think both punishments have their cons, and the Count is just dwelling on the down sides of being exiled in the country because that is his current situation. He would probably find things to be upset about if he was exiled out of the country as well.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
Nina was cold because she didn't want to seem to be too friendly with an aristocratic, political prisoner. She has become swept into the ideology of the USSR with all the passion and naivety of a young person. I think she will realize that she has been blinded by idealism; I do hope she and the Count reunite in the future.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
I think that at her core Anna was always a strong woman, and she adapted well to her circumstances. I think she has become humbled, much like the Count. I like how their relationship is described; they have both been humbled in their lives and now seem very comfortable together. I don't think they are just using each other, but I think it's quite possible the relationship won't be permanent.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I love Emile, and how he gets more positive as the day goes by. I related to that so strongly, because usually I hate getting up in the morning but the day turns out better than I expect. I think they had to keep their dinner secret because they had obtained these ingredients through shifty means, and indulging in excess is counter to the ideals of the communist government.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
I think he picked the count because he is an aristocrat and therefore can understand the more classist bent of the English and French people the diplomat will meet. I think this is a dangerous situation for the Count and that he would be wise to tread carefully.
I am a little late, but I will (hopefully) catch up. :)Day 1 Discussion Questions
Section: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
I had vague (and probably wrong) notion what happened. They killed the royal family and established different political setting.... was that then? My knowledge from school is rusty and I don't remember anything. And I haven't read almost any books set in this time period.
As for my feelings, my lack of knowledge does not affect me. I am here to learn. :)
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
The count was lucky he was not executed. Honestly, I thought his pick of possessions was weird. I would pack more family heirlooms, if for nothing else to sell later...
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I can totally relate to count's struggling with essays. I am not a fan of philosophical works either. :) As for chair tilting I am more lying down kind of reader.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I think that he will just continue to live his life as usual, or as usual as he can. I admire count because he is kind to everyone, he is not stuffy or full of himself.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
Well for one, he is stripped of his title, so he is no loner a Count, only a gentleman.
Yes I like the count very much. He is quite charming.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
Seems like she will be. Lucky for me, I thought it will be Count and his thoughts for whole book.
Brittany wrote: "Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna K..."
See all of the references in this book made me feel bad for how many of them I knew about but hadn't read. Well other than all the Chekhov references. Those I was very familiar with. As a theater major I read most of his plays and I've seen a beautifully brilliant production of The Seagull. I do think the the author captured so much of the the heart and style of the Russian world. I felt like I could hear echoes of Chekhov in places within this story.
2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I haven't read any Russian Literature.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
I think his friendship with Mikhail and how their lives are now reversed struck me the most. The point also where the count feels he is becoming invisible and is more like a fixture in the hotel made me feel really sad for him.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I think she will reappear. I feel she thinks highly of herself but this behaviour may change as the story progresses.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
Again I feel as he is more or less always present within the premises of the hotel ,people are soo used to seeing him that they don't even realise he is standing there..... It's a sad situation. I don't think Mikhail intentionally stood the count up but the life outside has moved on and people get busy in their own lives. He may have friends but the friendship won't ever be as it was.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I think this part was very well written. It showed how the times are changing just through the wine and life as the count knew no more exists. It also reiterates that the times have changed and now there is a thing called union which people like Bishop can take undue advantage of.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I don't see any footnotes on my ebook reader.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I like the Count and I think his life may go into a downward spiral due to which he may attempt a suicide...I don't have any theories as to why the count returned to Moscow.
May 16 QUESTIONSSECTION 1938/An Arrival - Addendum pages 229 - 317
#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
#25. Do you think the count has after had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?I haven't read any Russian literature before this although they are on my reading list. So I don't have anything to compare to.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
I liked the interaction with Anna. It also looks like his grandmother was an interesting woman. I hope we get to see more of her in the flashback.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
She seems arrogant. It looks like she treated the Count that way just to get back at him for the way he spoke to her. I hope she does appear.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I think the incident with Anna was only a trigger that made him realize that he was slowly becoming "invisible" to the people around him. The staff and people around him have stopped treating him as an important guest as he is a permanent fixture at the hotel.
I think the Count does have other friends but they are yet to be introduced. But it does seem like he doesn't let himself get very close to a lot of people. It is also possible that his friends were from an aristocratic back ground and have probably fled Russia.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
This was such a good chapter. I loved the articulation. I was furious at the thought of all that history associated with the wines being lost. I agreed with the description that each wine is unique. It looks like the Bishop did raise the request of spite. But also that somewhere high up in the ladder someone must have agreed with the Bishop and hence the ruling was passed.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I initially did think the narrative voice was that of the Count. They both seem very similar. If we are in fact reading through a narrator then we are able to see only what the narrator tells us. And from his account he seems like a happy man.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I really admire the Count. His sense of humor as well as how he is dealing with his confinement and coming to terms at everything that is happening around him. There definitely is something about the past that haunts him. Maybe Helena's death has something to do with the revolution and he returned to Moscow to see the end result of this. To see if the life that was taken was worth the revolution.
His long confinement as well as guilt over something probably drives him to take his own life.
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
This was my favorite period of history at school we covered the early 20th century including the Russian Revolution, but I have never continued to study at a higher level. Love watching documentaries of the period
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I thought his choices were a mixture of the practical and sentimental and as such I think many of us would make similar choices. I would definitely have taken the chair and desk but probably more books
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I think he struggles on with the essays because its part of the way he can master the situation or come to terms with the situation he finds himself in.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I did admire his way of dealing the situation he found himself in on the other hand it was paradise compared to being shot or being deported to Siberia
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think the author wanted to convey character and not rank
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
Independent, single minded, bright
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I've read almost up to the end of Book 2 of W&P, and... The story isn't really similar.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
My favorite... Would be... When the bees come back
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
No, I don't think so... Seemed more like a one night stand to me.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
Yeah... There's Mishka, Nina, and the hotel people.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
Yes. It was out of spite.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
Footnotes?
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
Umm read ahead...
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?I have read some Russian Literature for example War and Peace, but not as much as I feel I should have. Later works such asOne Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch Cancer Ward and The Master and Margarita
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
Nikolai Petrov the prince turned muscician
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I didn't like her initially but as the book progressed warmed to her character
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I think at this stage he had not been part of everyday life for several years its inevitable friends he knew from the past would have moved on
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I think the Bishop would have despised a man like the Count who probably represented those he felt had kept the ordinary people in servitude before the revolution.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I like him but am also a little frustrated at times. I think he came back to Moscow because he views himself as one with Russia and identifys as a Russian even if not the Russia he grew up in.
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#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?
Well, I'd say that it is important because it is for the Count to travel in some way. He is not allowed to leave the place. The wine, other beverages and dishes allow him to travel via his tastebuds.
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
I have no idea why they would not seize his money... but it would have impacted the story greatly. The Count would have probably give in to his impulse to kill himself.
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
It seems strange to me to leave her with a man she has not seen in such a long time. But I the same time, having known him from a young age she knows how trustworthy the Count is when it comes to taking care of a little girl. Plus he certainly has the funds to take care a child.
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
It is a fun way to occupy a child. It shows how smart the little girl is. She certainly is capable of thinking outside the box. On the other hand it shows that the Count prefers to be in control because he was reluctant to let the child hide the thimble. Also he obviously underestimated the child.
#25. Do you think the count has after had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
I believe he has been looked after for a big part of his life, but it doesn't mean that he was looking after someone else at the same time. From the story he told about his sister Helena, I have the feeling that he loved her very much. And I would not be surprised to learn that he had been looking after her in some way when she was a child. But it is probably the first time he is the sole caretaker of another person. And that most probably changed him.
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
She is a bit like her mother in her curious nature. But maybe the Count will have a strong enough influence on her so that she will not end up as her mother. At least I hope she will not distance herself from the Count as much as Nina did.
I don't think we will see her again. The narrator said plainly that the Count never sees her again.
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
I'm very glad that Osip helped him, although I'm still not sure what to think about him. I hope it will have no consequence, but I have a feeling it will...
Ack I'm still waiting for this one from the library. I will try to jump in later maybe and hopefully people will still want to discuss.
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21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?
I think the references are mainly due to the Count's sophisticated tastes. He works at the restaurant because he loves food and seating and fine dining. I've really enjoyed the descriptions, because I too love food. I think the person who provided the saffron was Anna; it's implied that he pulled some strings with her to get them. The other things must have come from other sources though.
22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
I think that most of his wealth was impounded, but the gold was kept secret, and he lived off of that for awhile. When the money started to run out, I think he got the job as a waiter and is now using that to support his lifestyle. Plus, he has many friends at the hotel who probably help him with some stuff free of charge. I bet he doesn't pay for the room he stays in.
23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
I think Nina never intended to return, but I can't really blame her. She knew her husband was in deep trouble and went to go be with him, but Siberia is no place for a young girl. I think Nina probably felt she would never return from Siberia and would not condemn her daughter to the same fate. She was in a desperate situation, but knew the Count would take good care of her daughter.
24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
It shows that Sofia is mischievous and bright. I found the Count's frustrations with his new living situation amusing, and it showed that he had become set in his ways and not used to children's play. He recalls how he used to while away time as a child, and he has to recapture that to take good care of Sofia.
25. Do you think the count has after had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
I think he's never had to look after anyone before except himself. I think the Count has had several life-changing encounters at the hotel, so I wouldn't say it's more than ever before. But he's becoming more of a father, to be sure.
26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
I talked about this in earlier questions, but it's making the Count become a father, and I don't think Nina will reappear. The narrator hasn't lied to us yet, and seems reliable, and he said that Nina will not reappear.
27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
I think Osip covered for him, so I don't believe anything will happen because of it. Osip helped because the Count has become his friend. I loved their description of watching movies, because it was clear Osip just loved the movies and wasn't watching them just for academic benefit. I also identified with how he got frustrated when the Count interrupted the movie even though they were watching it for the third time.
May 16 QUESTIONSSECTION 1938/An Arrival - Addendum pages 229 - 317
#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?
I think because the story is limited to the hotel it's a way to bring in different cultures and places and also to show what's going on in the world outside (the removal of the wine labels, the shortages). It's also something that's important to the Count.
I'm assuming there's some sort of black market and that's where they're getting the ingredients. The Count seems to be getting some through Anna and her contacts.
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
I thought it was his coin stash and his job as head waiter. I got the impression a single coin was worth quite a lot of money and it sounded like he had a lot of them. I'm sure they would have confiscated everything else and I was assuming he wasn't paying for the room although it did sound like he was still tipping people.
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
I think the amount of time she spent with him as a child meant that she did know him well enough and she would know he wasn't going anywhere (and there were others in the hotel to help him). In some ways he was a parent to her, he certainly spent more time with her than her father, but she did seem a little bit desperate. I didn't really understand why she decided to follow her husband and leave her child though. She must have known there was a risk she wouldn't be back and it seemed like she was putting him before Sofia.
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
It showed that the Count has absolutely no idea about how smart children are. I also thought that he came across a bit childish as well with his "not fair". Sofia showed herself to be someone who thinks things through. Who stops and thinks about a problem rather than rushing in.
#25. Do you think the count has after had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
I think to an extent he looked after Nina but this is probably the first time he's really been responsible for another person, hence his panic. I think this will cause some changes but I think he's changed a lot already.
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
The Count's lifestyle is probably going to change dramatically but I think it'll be good for him as I still get the impression he's a little lonely. It'll give him a new purpose and force him to take responsibility. I think the narrator said Nina and the Count never see each other again which is a shame as I'd really like to know what happened to her.
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
I think someone will find out about the trip to the hospital (my money's on the Bishop) but I'm not sure what the consequences will be if any. Osip always said he would be able to do the Count a favour in return so I think this is it. They've also been meeting for quite a few years so I think they've become friends as well.
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#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?
I think the food and wine give us better insight into the Count. It is important to him so it takes center stage in the book.
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
I wondered about this as well! This would have been a very different story if he were penniless. I think the author's point that even a luxurious hotel can still be a prison would be lost if the Count were penniless and could not stay at the hotel.
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
Nina is definitely in dire straits to take her daughter to the Count. No, the Count would not be my first choice.
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
I really enjoy the interaction between Sofia and the Count!
Sofia gets her smarts from her mother. She reminds me of a young Nina. The Count, I think, was pleasantly surprised by the thimble game. I am sure he is reminded of Nina.
#25. Do you think the count has after had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
I think Sofia is good for the Count. A child will definitely give his life purpose. He has to think about someone else besides himself and so far he is doing great.
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
I was sad to find out in this section that Nina was never heard from again. Although, the sighting of a woman wearing a bright orange dress does mystify me. Not sure why the author mentioned it.
It does look like someone behind the scenes is protecting the Count. A letter was written about Sofia then destroyed. Possibly Osip?
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
Osip has become a good friend and ally. No, I don't think the Count will get in trouble.
1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I don't know much about this time period, so I went into it pretty blind. And the fact that I'm so ignorant is one of the reasons I wanted read this.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I've moved around quite a bit and with each move I look around my rooms trying decide which items I like enough to pack, move, and unpack. It's amazing how many things I'm willing to part with when the garbage and goodwill is easier than moving. That being said, I always end up with items I can't believe I bothered moving.
I thought the Count went through a similar process with his possessions. He surveyed the room deciding what he could and couldn't part with. Then moved and wondered why he brought so many things (particularly books) to such a small room.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I can relate to his struggles with the Essays. There are a lot of books, mostly non-fiction, that I always say I'm going to read and never get the chance because there is something always more interesting to do or read. And when I do get to them I sometimes have to force myself through it chapter by chapter - those were mostly school books.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I admired his actions a lot because he is trying to make the best of what he has, instead of complaining about what he has lost.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think he views himself more as a gentleman than a count. Also, with the times changing and royal titles becoming a dying breed, he can continue to live on as a gentleman, if not a count.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I LOVE her!! I'm not sure how important her character will be, but I hope to see a lot more of her.
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?It is easier to tell a passing stranger sometimes than your closet friend. I think he feels responsible for not being where he needed to be when she was dying. His actions lead to the Helena being wooed, raped, and left. His next actions is what he blames himself for. He went to kill a man and ended up fleeing the country instead of being there when his sister needed him the most.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I think he is a romantic and he executed a plan and would have killed himself if he wasn't interrupted. The honey reminded him that life still has pleasant surprises at one's darkest hour. Cause and effect. Things that occurred to put his friend, (The friend he made on the same day he was feeling invisible.). To be there at the moment.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
It was a far worse punishment for the count. He could watch the world he loved be dismantled bit by bit. He saw himself being left out of it. If he would have been exiled to France he would have blossomed. His romantic heart for the motherland would be as he would remember it. Not for what it is becoming now.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
Nina is a firey independent spirit. I think she wanted to keep him her secret from your friends. I think she may be up to trouble also and wanted to keep the count away from it.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
Realizing her 15 minutes were up she cleverly found a niche for herself in secondary roles. She has changed because until you have been on top and haven't been taken down you don't know what it is like. She now can sympathize with the count. They are not serious they are two souls that have been humbled to a lower position and they take comfort with one another sometimes
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
They are three men who thrived during the aristocracy their skills were second to none and had the resources to create magic.
They all appreciate the finer things in life and understand the importance of wanting to produce it. A friendship forged with passionate tastes with a common enemy. The triumvirate were so resolved to making this dish, it was their protest against changes to couldn't change.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
It doesn't matter what the count does it will get him in trouble. He has in informer watching him closely that doesn't like him. The new regime wants to host the world stage to show the world their new way of government is the best and all should follow. There is social etiquette to hosting the world leaders and Osip realized the jewel under his nose and he was going to utilize it. The count will make another contact who may provide some information at a later date.
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Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I read Anna Karenina years ago and didn't enjoy it very much! This novel seems more upbeat and less depressing.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
Although there were lots of colorful characters, the scenes that stick out are the ones in which Nina is in. She's grown up and become a very smart young woman. However, she doesn't seem to need the Count anymore which is sad.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I thought she was very forward and knows what she wants! The wardrobe incident shows she's quite stubborn though. I think she will reappear later in the story.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I don't think it's Anna that's cast a spell on him. I think his lack of friends are due to the circumstances of the times.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I think it was higher officials that brought the change in the wine. I thought it was such a waste of the stuff though! Each bottle was unique and is now just one anonymous bottle among many!
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I don't think the narrative voice is the Count. I think the Count is getting lonely and starting to feel his imprisonment, so he is not as happy as the narrator.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
As I mentioned in the previous answer, I think he's starting to feel lonely and seeing the effects of his imprisonment. I like the Count. He seems like a good guy trying to look out for others.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I have not yet read any Russian literature so I cannot make comparisons. The frequent references made make me wish I had read any of those mentioned so I will remedy that soon.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
Not particularly my favorite (because so far Nina is my favorite) but what struck me the most was his meeting with Mishka who's freedom is a contrast to the Cout's current circumstance. His activities makes one ask 'what if the Count wasn't confined to the hotel' and all that.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I don't like her. Yes, she worked hard to be where she is (she came from a humble background) but her character still falls short. The Count mused about judgment of one's character should not always be based on first impressions. I agree to an extent so I can wholeheartedly say I don't like Anna. Her actions after she had met the Count where she purposely left clothes lying around was childish and speaks volumes of her character. I would be glad if she does not appear again.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I think the Count is the kind of man that leaves lasting impressions to those he meets. Mishka is a good example. I know he didn't show up in that appointment but then Katarina was sick and the Count was feeling melancholic.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
Bishop sounds impetuous at best and I don't really care much about him. If he was indeed promoted to his station because of connections then it's not impossible that it was him that orchestrated the wine incident.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I never gave it much thought.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
This was the 2nd time that suicide was mentioned. From the start I have wondered why he didn't return to Paris with his grandmother and I still have no idea why.
May 16 QUESTIONSSECTION 1938/An Arrival - Addendum pages 229 - 317
#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may
The Count is a connoisseur of food. Further, most of the book is set in the Metropol – a international hotel and the Count is the Head Waiter in the Boyarsky, which is the finest restaurant in Moscow. He caters to various people from various parts of the globe who play some role in the book. Naturally, smell, taste and ingredients are significant as the Count needs to understand all these to cater to his guests.
I think it is Anna who provides the mystery ingredients.
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
His coin stash itself is quite large and he had an arrangement with Konstantin Konstantinovich, the old Greek money lender. He also earns as the Head Waiter of Boyarsky. He is not paying for the room he stays in as he has been placed there by the Government under house arrest.
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
The Count had made a significant impression on Nina when she was a child. When she was lonely, the Count gave her lot of support and took care of her. He helped her in her pursuit of knowledge. He never interfered in her life and personal tastes. She had lot of faith in his integrity and considered him to be a thorough gentleman who keeps his word. She understood her travel is fraught with dangers and knew the fact that she may not return. In her absence, she wanted a good life for her daughter, which she thought only the Count could provide. I think these factors made Nina to leave Sofia with the Count.
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
The ‘thimble game’ started to keep Sofia occupied. Marina thought of this game. This shows the inexperience of the Count in handling children and underlines Sofia’s precociousness and intelligence.
#25. Do you think the count has after had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
The Count took care of his sister in his own way and also he rushed to save his grandmother despite the threat to his life. He starts caring for people more now – the willingness to take care of Sofia, his concern for Marina, Mishka, Emile and Andrey and help them whenever they needed him. Especially, the way he reacted when Sofia had the accident. He did not even regard the fact the he is not to step outside the Metropol and what would happen to him if this came to the knowledge of the superior authorities and also the fact that he did not have any money with him.
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
The Count takes care of a child for the first time in his life and gradually his world starts revolving around her to the extent that he starts worrying what will happen if the authorities took her away from him. He makes lots of adjustments to his personal life and comforts to accommodate the child.
As is stated by the narrator, Nina will not be seen again.(view spoiler)
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
Osip took care that nothing happened to the Count for going to the hospital for Sofia’s treatment. Osip had come to consider the Count a good friend with whom he could be himself and had lot of regard for the count’s intelligence and perspective to lose his services.
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?The events leading up to Helena's death obviously still weigh on the Counts mind greatly and probably influence his present behaviour, often it is easier to talk to a stranger than someone close to you
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I think the sweetness of the honey reminded the Count of the sweetness of life.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
I guess the Counts life was on hold but no I think all in all the gulags of Siberia would have been a harsher punishment
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
I think naturally we move on as adults, also Nina was of the new Russia and the Count was of the old.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
I think she has changed and for the better, more understanding and considerate of others
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I think the Count becoming a waiter and so really having a role in life again was really important for him psychologically. A turning point in his confinement. I felt he developed real friendships with Audrey and Emile.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
I think Osip is ambitious and clever, he realises the Counts knowledge of society and culture will be of use to him, at the moment I don't feel it will harm the Count
May 17 1950/Adagio.. - Achilles Agonoistes 321 - 394Discussion Questions
28: Sofia is now seventeen on the edge of adulthood, did you find the Counts reaction when he found Sofia alone with Victor Stepanovich an older man unexpected or natural?
29: Over the years the Count and Richard Vanderwhile develop a friendship do you agree with the narrator of the book that people of similar social standing and upbringing will gravitate towards each other?
30: The Count became very upset when he discovered Sofia And Anna had become acquainted without his knowledge. Why do you think he wished to keep his relationship with Anna and his life as Sofia's father separate?
31: Were you surprised when Richard asked the Count to spy? Do you think this request and the Count turning him down will effect their friendship?
32: What did you make of Mishka's Manuscript on bread? Do you think bread holds a special place in the Russian consciousness after reading the quotes Mishka used?
33: As we come to the final part of book what do you imagine will become of the Count, Sofia and Anna?
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
Yes I have read a lot of Russian classics. Some were mandatory reads in my school and some I read later for my enjoyment. Most of the books Count references I have read.
This novel is similar to those books in narration. It contains that masterful mix of descriptions, musings and events, that somehow paints the perfect picture of the era.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
I loved them all. If I have to pick one then chef Emile (I hope I wrote his name right). I love temperamental cooks. :)
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
Anna left me wondering what is hidden behind the pretty facade. Like Count I was always surprised by her actions. I hope we will se more of her.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I doubt Anna threw any kind of spell on him. For one, this is not that kind of a book. :) I think it's just representations of Counts mood.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
Bishop was really annoying character. I think he did it out of spite and revenge, because he hated ex-privileged class.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I am not sure who the narrator is. I didn't think it was the Count. But now you have me wondering. :)
I hope Count becomes happy as the narrator. As we see from the trail transcript at the beginning, he was vivacious once.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
Yeah a big cliffhanger. I didn't wait, I powered trough and was: "I will answer questions later, now I must know what happens next."
I didn't have a clue why Count returned to Moscow or why he left until it was revealed.
I like Count as a protagonist. He's a nice mix of optimist and pragmatic.
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
I was very surprised when he opened up to a stranger and he didn't talk about it to his friends.
Yes I do think he feels responsible and that it influences his behavior.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I do not think that he would have stepped off. I think he has too much love and belief in life.
I don't know why honey changed his mind. Maybe it satisfied his yearning for home?
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
I don't know. I think it depends on character of the person. I am not connected to places, more to people. So if my husband and kid are with me, I don't care where I am.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
Yeah I was surprised by Nina's coldness too. Not sure how things will develop. This book keeps surprising me. :)
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
Yeah Anna still keeps surprising me. And she surprised me how she dealt with it. I like her character more and more.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I am so glad Count found friends and purpose. Bouillabaisse was a secret because I think a lot of ingredients were hard to get and expensive at the time. Some were probably (like saffron) only for the privileged elite.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
Who better then the Count? He is an educated men who traveled a lot. I think they executed a lot of elite in Revolution and Osip's choices were not big. I hope Count does not get in trouble for this.
May 16 QUESTIONSSECTION 1938/An Arrival - Addendum pages 229 - 317
#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?
It's just here to better bring us into the atmosphere and show us Count personality. That the class of people Count belonged to appreciated those things and had refined tastes... I think that Anna was mystery ingredient provider. Because of cursive writing, it struck me as female.
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
I do think that all of his money was impounded. That's why he was hiding gold coins in a desk. I think he is paying for everything, but he has a lot of valuable gold stashed.
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
I would never leave my kid for my husband. He is a grown up and can better take care of himself. I would have stayed back with my kid and hoped that he will sometimes come back.
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
Sofia surprised me how cunning she is. Well played. :)
#25. Do you think the count has after had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
I think this was a new experience for the Count. I do not think he ever had to look after anyone before. I wonder how this experience will change him?
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
No idea. I don't even want to guess. We shall have to wait and see.
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
I hope nothing happens to Count. I was surprised Osip helped him. (I did say this book keeps surprising me.)
May 17 1950/Adagio.. - Achilles Agonoistes 321 - 394Discussion Questions
28: Sofia is now seventeen on the edge of adulthood, did you find the Counts reaction when he found Sofia alone with Victor Stepanovich an older man unexpected or natural?
I found his reaction completely normal. He is protective of her.
29: Over the years the Count and Richard Vanderwhile develop a friendship do you agree with the narrator of the book that people of similar social standing and upbringing will gravitate towards each other?
I was surprised by Count's and Richard's friendship. But maybe narrator has right. When people have similar interests they make connections easier.
30: The Count became very upset when he discovered Sofia And Anna had become acquainted without his knowledge. Why do you think he wished to keep his relationship with Anna and his life as Sofia's father separate?
This shows Count's upbringing I think. Where mistresses were things that were separated from family and didn't mix with them.
31: Were you surprised when Richard asked the Count to spy? Do you think this request and the Count turning him down will effect their friendship?
I was not surprised. I was only surprised it didn't happen sooner. I thought Richard was a spy from the start.
32: What did you make of Mishka's Manuscript on bread? Do you think bread holds a special place in the Russian consciousness after reading the quotes Mishka used?
Mishka's manuscript made me laugh. Such a well thought revenge. :)
And bread does hold a special place in Russian culture. I know this since I am from Serbia and Serbs and Russians have same Slavic roots.
Bread and salt are essentials of one's home. When you share them with someone it has deeper meaning. It grant that person privilege. It shows they are under protection under your roof. Long time ago if you stayed over night and they didn't share food (aka bread and salt with you) you should sleep with one eye open. ;)
33: As we come to the final part of book what do you imagine will become of the Count, Sofia and Anna?
I hope there will be some happy ending for them and that the end will not be Count dying from old age in that Hotel.
I haven't done the next set of questions yet but I love the addition of Sophia.
ChrisP wrote: "I haven't done the next set of questions yet but I love the addition of Sophia."Me too! She really brightened the book.
May 17 1950/Adagio.. - Achilles Agonoistes 321 - 394Discussion Questions
28: Sofia is now seventeen on the edge of adulthood, did you find the Counts reaction when he found Sofia alone with Victor Stepanovich an older man unexpected or natural?
Sofia was beyond her years when she came to the Count and was predominantly raised by older adults, so this seemed like a natural expectation of who she would be attracted to.
29: Over the years the Count and Richard Vanderwhile develop a friendship do you agree with the narrator of the book that people of similar social standing and upbringing will gravitate towards each other?
Yes, this is true. Anytime we find someone we share any sort of background history there is an instant bond. It is only through time that we find if we are truly friend with someone, and not just sharing a common backing.
30: The Count became very upset when he discovered Sofia And Anna had become acquainted without his knowledge. Why do you think he wished to keep his relationship with Anna and his life as Sofia's father separate?
I think that the Count compartmentalizes his life and doesn't like his compartments to touch. He also has a weird secretive relationship that he was very possessive about, and this made him lose control of that "dirty little secret" even if it was open knowledge
31: Were you surprised when Richard asked the Count to spy? Do you think this request and the Count turning him down will effect their friendship?
I'm not surprised at this request as the Count is very observant and people are keen to open up to him or allow him into their presence. I think if this ends the friendship it wasn't very strong to begin with
32: What did you make of Mishka's Manuscript on bread? Do you think bread holds a special place in the Russian consciousness after reading the quotes Mishka used?
Mishka is weird as crap to me. But there are a lot of interesting moments that uphold bread. The one that stood out to me the most was when the Count was leaving the back of the hospital and rode in a "REAL" bread truck.
33: As we come to the final part of book what do you imagine will become of the Count, Sofia and Anna?
As I have already finished, I will abstain from commenting on this
May 17 1950/Adagio.. - Achilles Agonoistes 321 - 394Discussion Questions
28: Sofia is now seventeen on the edge of adulthood, did you find the Counts reaction when he found Sofia alone with Victor Stepanovich an older man unexpected or natural?
I think it's a natural reaction. After all he thinks of Sophia as his daughter.
29: Over the years the Count and Richard Vanderwhile develop a friendship do you agree with the narrator of the book that people of similar social standing and upbringing will gravitate towards each other?
I think so, yes.
30: The Count became very upset when he discovered Sofia And Anna had become acquainted without his knowledge. Why do you think he wished to keep his relationship with Anna and his life as Sofia's father separate?
Maybe he considers Anna to be a bad influence on Sofia. Or he is afraid of anything she might say to Sofia.
31: Were you surprised when Richard asked the Count to spy? Do you think this request and the Count turning him down will effect their friendship?
Maybe, but why should it? It's not fair to as his friend to take risks like that.
32: What did you make of Mishka's Manuscript on bread? Do you think bread holds a special place in the Russian consciousness after reading the quotes Mishka used?
I think bread is important in any christian/orthodoxe/Puritan/etc. consciouness. It's more a question of religion in my opinion.
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
We do everything for family and sometimes our actions are beyond reason. It doesn't sound logical that the Count stay for the reasons he shared but when did love become logical? I think that what he shared is partly the truth though. I feel like there's more to why he stayed.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I think if he wasn't interrupted he would have stepped off the ledge. The nostalgia brought about by the taste of the honey reminded him of happy memories and I think it bolstered his hope.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
I never thought about this before but upon reading this and the reason behind the thought I couldn't help but agree. It feels more cruel because it feels like you're physically present but you are not really present.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
It was sad that Nina was not as warm as the Count was towards her but then as the Count mused Nina's character tends to be like that. But still I can't help but hope that they meet again.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
I still don't like her. I don't care if she breaks the Count's heart or what. I just don't like her.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I love this three especially the scene where Emile chased Bishop.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
I think it would be a good pass time for the Count. I quite like Osip as he promises to be another fun character.
28: Sofia is now seventeen on the edge of adulthood, did you find the Counts reaction when he found Sofia alone with Victor Stepanovich an older man unexpected or natural?I was not surprised at all. The Count was a Papa bear protecting his young daughter. I did laugh when I found out what was really going on. Not surprised Sofia is smart and talented.
29: Over the years the Count and Richard Vanderwhile develop a friendship do you agree with the narrator of the book that people of similar social standing and upbringing will gravitate towards each other?
Yes. I know there is a saying that opposites attract. But I think it's the similarities between people that bond them the most. Like on Goodreads. Everyone has a love of books.
30: The Count became very upset when he discovered Sofia And Anna had become acquainted without his knowledge. Why do you think he wished to keep his relationship with Anna and his life as Sofia's father separate?
The Count is very formal and particular in all things. I am not surprised he would want to keep a mistress away from his daughter. In his mind he probably thinks this part of his life (Anna) is private and off limits to his daughter. And now that Anna is a film star again, he probably wants to avoid any of her attention.
31: Were you surprised when Richard asked the Count to spy? Do you think this request and the Count turning him down will effect their friendship?
I did not get the feeling that this would end their friendship. No, I am not surprised. The Count is in a good position to gather information.
32: What did you make of Mishka's Manuscript on bread? Do you think bread holds a special place in the Russian consciousness after reading the quotes Mishka used?
After hearing the passages, it appears so. Interesting perspective and subject to research.
33: As we come to the final part of book what do you imagine will become of the Count, Sofia and Anna?
Anna is resourceful and will be just fine. Sofia will go on to impress everyone with her talent. And hopefully, the Count will finally be free to leave the hotel. Let's see if any of this comes true! LOL
#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?I think it is the author connecting us with the book regarding a sense of smell and taste not only the sympathy, empathy and an enthralling story. I always thought the mystery ingredients were coming from Anna
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
I don't think he is paying for the room he is staying in. The state issued him that room. The count is a rather industrious and resourceful character coming up with money necessary. I think the coins worked for the first part of the book and now he has a job working at the finest hotel in Moscow.
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. It does show how NIna felt about the Count in her time in the hotel. I am not a parent so I wouldn't know if Nina felt like she was better off than going to Siberia.
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
It shows the Sofia just like her Mother was crafty and tricking the count was child's play. The Count like most adults think linearly and him assuming he could be more clever than her was a good lesson for her to learn
#25. Do you think the count has after had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
I think the Count may have looked after his sister but I think Sofia is the first taste of real responsibility for him. Like everyone we all change with the seasons, as are experiences grows so do we.
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
All Russian stories have one thing in common they all end in heart break. The foreshadowing of Nina never returning to the hotel doesn't me the two are not reunited or the father doesn't return.
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
Yes, if someone does prosecute him they can use this as another example to him send him to a work camp. Osip helped him because I think Osip grown to respect him as a man and a father and I don't think Osip wanted to lose him.
I like to come late to the discussion, i dislike reading a book in bits and then putting it down for a day or two. I have deliberately not yet read anyone else's response to the question and am looking forward to putting forward my opinionsDay 1 Discussion Questions
Section: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I have a basic understanding of Russian history and having recently read The Death of Ivan Ilyich have a knowledge of the civil war in Russia. However i do not think a previous knowledge is necessary, indeed I come to each book as an open and unfilled page. I like to think that the book is not only about the period and its events but about the way the author portrays these and how he (in this case) or she describes those events, I often find i take issue with someone who says that they liked the book because it was set in an era or place they knew nothing about - to me a well written book is about more than its setting.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I have no idea what "little Princess" is but ,I agree the depiction of choice gave me a similar sort of feeling to you but further reading told us that the desk legs were filled with gold and that other things he elected to keep were more than just sentimental. I have often thought about what i would try to save if we had a fire - my most precious things are memories such as photos and videos, there is not a single other physical item that could not be replaced. Nowadays that would mean picking up your computer or external hard drive.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I think we would all struggle with the essays - I am not sure that they are meant to be read in a single sitting. I find similar struggles particularly with non fiction work that i have to take in small bites. I find the TV very disrupting - my hubby is not a reader and a big TV fan and i find i cannot read successfully if he is watching TV. I like to curl up, literally, with a book
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I like his stoicism and i like to think that i could take this attitude. I truly believe that you cannot change what has happened and you just have to deal with the consequences. Events might devastate you but you have to rise above them and deal with the what next - i think the Count does that beautifully
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I can't say i have thought about it - A Count is a gentleman and to be fair of the 2 i prefer gentleman in the title
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I think she is already an important character. Here we have a man, used to doing what he wants and now restricted in his movements. Nina shows him how he can find interest in the confines of his "prison" and also gives him a role - so she has questions that he can answer. It is a 2 way street
I am drawn by the writing style i think there is humour and pathos in it, I think the author has created characters bursting with life and I cannot wait to read on. I have not read any of this author's work before although i Have Rules of Civility on order at the library.
Day 2
,I.7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I don't think this has many similarities to Russian literature apart from the names of the characters being Russian . It is altogether a "lighter' book. i think there is an ironic humour underlying the storyline which is completely absent in any other Russian literature that i have read. It is not written by a Russian and it has a completely different take on the whole thing. I feel Towles has almost an "irreverence" underlying his tale. In fact one of his footnotes talks about the way Russians have four or five different names depending on the situation and suggests because a certain character is not going to enter the story again we needn't worry about knowing his patronyms etc. Does anyone see the irony underlying the writing?
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
I think The Bishop is a very clever character and the occasion when the count corrects his wine choice very revealing both about the Count's character - he previously talked about acceptance but here shows that acceptance has its limits And by the end of this section it is obvious that this interlude is to have ongoing effects
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I don't like to guess what might happen later although i think Anna is merely a digression with the count. The count however may be more than a digression with Anna
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
How easy is it to build and retain friendships in the situation the count finds himself in. He can only interact with those who come into the hotel, outside forces are able to restrict those people accessing the hotel.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
The wine is just another depiction of the Count's inability to alter what the "regime" is doing to him and the Bishop is only a small cog in the Regime's wheel. I think the Bishop is a very cleverly defined character and my be capable of orchestration of the Count's future. I don't hate him this type of character was prevalent at the time you were either for or against the regime and to be fair your life would be much easier if you worked for and with it.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I hate the footnotes, just put them into the main text. Personally i think footnotes have no place in fiction. I also think they have less to do with the counts character than the question suggests
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I don't think its a secret what has driven him to this point. First the regime excludes him from full integration with society, then they take steps to take his friends to court over trumped up charges and further ostracise him. On top of this they constrain his simple pleasures such as wining and dining. they manage this almost in secrecy - I am not sure this is the right word - BUT he doesn't have any chance to see it coming - wouldn't you be depressed? I am sure i would.
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?I've never read any Russian books as far as i remember but i'll be more inclined to now
8. The Count met a large cast of colourful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favourite? Which one struck you the most?
I think the old man on the roof with the bees. i hope to see him come up again
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
i think after the story cut back to her being upset about hanging up the clothes makes e think she'll return. I thought she was a bit of a cold bitch and i hope she doesnt upset the count
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
Maybe he needs to make new friends. I was sad he got stood up by Nina and School Friend (i'm a bad speller and i left my book in the kitchen)
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I strongly dislike the bishop. If you arent confident in pairing wines then dont offer a suggestion! and why hasnt the hotel suggested a list of pairing for him to use if hes just guessing?
I completely understand the wine cellar scene. I'm a big wine drinker and a member of a wine club and though we dont take wine very seriously it can be such a fun little hobby
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
i think the Count is a very upbeat happy kinda guy and that makes me drawn to him as i would like to be stronger myself in not letting the world get me down
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
i'm keeping my fingers crossed for the old 'but there's so many pages of the book left! he cant be dead!'
But seriously, that scene with the wine made me want to cry. why would anyone do that?? all that value! and what type of hotel can hold a reputation when the restaurant offers red or white? you might have well poured it all down the sink and only offered coke from now on
the count probably thinks things could be worse, at least i'm imprisoned in a place with a level of comfort and then taking away the wine must have felt like a person attack. ripping on luxury away from him at a time until there's nothing left
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I've only read Anna Karenina, which I hated so I try not to think about it. And the only other book I've read lately that is set in Russia is Gorky Park (although I wouldn't classify that as Russian literature). In other words, I don't have much to compare it to, but I'd like to know more.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
As always I love Nina, but one other encounter I liked was the young couple at dinner. Not sure why it stood out to me, but I really enjoyed that passage.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I liked her. She was the stereotypical, haughty actress, but very entertaining. I liked how the Counts opinion of her changed at dinner proving you can't judge someone based solely on a first impression. I also found her POV chapter highly entertaining and hope she appears again.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I think his imprisonment is finally catching up with him. For awhile he could pretend he was just another guest at the hotel. However, with so many friends (and lovers) moving on with life, the reality is finally sinking in.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I love wine. I am no where near the lover and sommelier the Count is, but I think I would have shed a tear at the sight of those label-less bottles. It's essentially a destruction of art.
I hate the Bishop! I'm sure he had a part in this and imagine he will continue on as an antagonist.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I enjoyed the footnotes and think the narrator is separate from the Count. I'd like to go back and read them to refresh my memory, but can't figure out how to on my kindle.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
That cliffhanger! It really put me on edge. I'm not sure why he will attempt suicide, but I imagine it will have to do in part with the drastically changing times.
I really like the Count so far. In fact, I'm shocked by how much I'm enjoying this story. It's slow and not much is happening, but I really love reading experts of the Counts day to day life (although I can understand why some may not like it).
May 16 QUESTIONSSECTION 1938/An Arrival - Addendum pages 229 - 317
#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?
They live in a time in which not everything is available, so something we think is common is something special to them. The count loves food and it reminds him of where he traveled.
I'm sure there is a black market where they can get ingredients. But I think Anna supplied some too.
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
This surprised me too. Maybe he is using the hidden coins and his earnings from working in the restaurant.
The story would be different if the count had no money. I agree that it is likely he would have committed suicide.
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
Nina seems desperate. I think she knows she won't return. Siberia is no place for a child. She and the count were close when Nina was a child. She has fond memories of him and trusts him. That is why she feels he is the right person to take care of Nina
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
That game is fun. At the girl scouts we used to play it with a coin. When we spotted it we had to sit down and wait for the others to find it. Sofia is so clever! The count's reaction shows he wants to be in control.
#25. Do you think the count has ever had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
I don't think the count ever looked after someone. Taking care of Sofia does change him for the better. He is now starting to think more of others.
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
It was sad that Nina never contacted the count after she left the hotel. The narrator said we won't see her again. It's likely she and her husband died in Siberia.
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
Maybe Osip has children too and Nina reminds him of them? Or maybe he grew fond of the count and wants to help. Or he feels obligated to help in return for the lessons.
May 16 QUESTIONSSECTION 1938/An Arrival - Addendum pages 229 - 317
#21. Up to this point in the book we have seen many references to smell and taste and ingredients of both wine and food, what significance do you think this has on the book? Who do you think the mystery ingredient provider may be?
I think it lends a little something extra to the book. I love how descriptive this author is with sights and sounds and tastes! It really draws me into the book and makes it that much more enjoyable for me. As for who provided the saffron (is that the ingredient we're talking about?) I believe it was Anna. It came in an envelope with her handwriting on it, if I remember correctly.
#22. The Count may be exiled, but he has no shortage of funds and it doesn't seem to come solely from his coin stash, why do you think that his money was not impounded by the court when he was placed into exile? What impact would that have had on the story? Do you think he is paying for the room he stays in?
That's a really good question, actually. I do wonder why his money wasn't confiscated. Unless he has his money in different, hidden accounts that can't be traced to him. I'm sure if he didn't have money, he wouldn't be able to enjoy his house arrest as much, though I think he would have found a way to make it livable. Maybe he would have started working at the Boyarsky earlier than he did. I do think he's paying for his stay. He mentioned something in an earlier part about settling his accounts, I think right before he was about to attempt suicide.
#23. What are your thoughts on Nina leaving Sofia with the Count? Would this be the way you would deal with the situation if faced with the same? If you were in a similar position, given the story thus far, would you feel as if you knew Sasha enough to do the same?
At first, I thought "Why the Count?" Why didn't she leave Sofia with her family? Though the fact that so much time has passed could mean that she has no family left. I suppose she was a lot closer to Alexander than I first thought. Honestly, I'm not sure if I could leave my child to follow my husband while he is forced labor. I would wait for him, but I couldn't imagine the guilt of not being there for my kids. But, if I had no other choice, I would leave them with someone I trusted wholeheartedly. Apparently, the Count is that someone for Nina. From what we've read so far, I don't see it as too much of a stretch (barring her parents still being alive... still wondering why not her parents?)
#24. What are your thoughts on the "thimble" game? What do you think is says about Sofia, and what does it show us about the Count?
I thought that was cute and very true in regards to entertaining children. You really can make a game out of anything when they're that small. My son, who is three, would rather play with rocks he found outside and random bits of paper than his roomful of toys. I think the game showed how thoughtful, careful, yet crafty Sophia can be. She's a serious little girl, but there's a bit of a spark in there, as well. It also shows that the Count needs to stop trying to out-think everyone all the time, haha.
#25. Do you think the count has ever had to look after anyone else in his life or has he only ever been looked after? Do you think that the Count is changing more now than ever before in his life? What might be some indications that make you think the way you do?
I don't think he's every had someone so fully dependent on him, no. And I definitely agree that Sofia has had a huge effect on him. He's got more of a fatherly/caretaker mindset, now, which is clearly evident when Sofia gets hurt.
#26. What do you think are the ramifications of Sofia's presence? Do you think that we will see Nina again?
I think that she'll help him get through the rest of his house arrest, though, as attached as he is to her, I'm not sure how he's going to handle it when she eventually leaves. I'm not sure if we'll see Nina again. I would like to hold out hope, but I think we may have seen the last of her...
#27. Do you think anything will happen to the count for going to the hospital? Why do you think that Osip helped him?
I really hope not! I was so worried through that entire scene! First, I was worried about Sofia and then I was worried the man in the black suit was going to arrest the Count. I'm glad Osip helped him, though, at first, I thought he was there to take him in. I think Osip helped him for the reasons that he said he did. Alexander has been teaching him to be a gentleman for the past fifteen years and I think that's how a gentleman would react to the situation. I also think Osip has genuinely come to think of Alexander as a friend. Who knows how well that will hold out if he gets pressure from above, though.
Day 3 Discussion AnswersMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
It is easier to tell strangers difficult stories as 1) they dont know you and 2) your probably not going to see them again so irrespective of whether they judge you or not it wont affect you.
I think he blames himself too much. It was interesting to see how he connected everything together--from the weather till Helena's suicide. It was a tale of revenge that the Count feels responsible for and maybe to a certain degree he did trigger it. His actions seem to be a result of this.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I think he would have. He had nothing to live for and he felt everything had changed. The honey reminded him of home and that the apple orchards still stand and maybe not everything had changed.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
I do agree with this paragraph. When one moves to a new place they are involved in making a life there as they have to start from scratch. You may reminisce but your struggles keep you occupied. But if your stuck in a hotel like the Count there is no moving on as you can see everything you love around you but you cannot interact with it. There is no moving on when you are trapped in one place.
So the minus six is a reference to exile from 6 russian cities. I don't really remember coming across this in detail in the book.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
I think this is quite common. Children when they grow up go through a period of self discovery. They tend to distance themselves from the things that they once loved. It's not a conscious decision but as they try to find their purpose in life it happens. It looks like this happened to Nina. I think they will reunite on better terms.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
It seemed a common enough story of an actress. She dealt with it the best way she could and she did it well. She is the same person but due to her circumstances she connects with the Count better. I was surprised at the turn of events. I am curious to see how this will pan out considering the Count's house arrest.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
They are 3 people from different backgrounds but have their love for food and the restaurant bring them together. They are meticulous in what they do and take their profession seriously. I think that is why they get along well together. I did like this scene as well. I felt they needed to keep this a secret because they feel their actions are being monitored. They want to have something just for themselves. Also as the ingredients seem to be quite rare they could be excused of being elitist.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
The request came as a surprise. I thought there was a sinister atmosphere during the initial conversation brought on by Osip's refraining from introducing himself. Osip's desire to learn the language and culture seems genuine and it made sense to me since before you go into negotiations or work with people from different backgrounds and culture it is necessary to do some research. It happens commonly enough in today's industries. The Count seems a natural enough choice as he is in the same city and has moved in these circles and is familiar with the English and French customs. Although initially this endeavor may be advantageous to the Count it can go wrong if someone finds out he is gaining certain things depending on what they are.
May 17 1950/Adagio.. - Achilles Agonoistes 321 - 394Discussion Questions
28: Sofia is now seventeen on the edge of adulthood, did you find the Counts reaction when he found Sofia alone with Victor Stepanovich an older man unexpected or natural?
The Count is very protective about Sofia and he does not want her to be hurt in anyway. Sofia did not inform the Count about her Piano lessons with Viktor Stephanovich Skadovsky, the conductor of the orchestra at the Piazza. She wanted it to be a surprise for the Count’s birthday. But, Helena’s episode had soured the Count and naturally the Count jumped to the wrong conclusion and reacted accordingly.
29: Over the years the Count and Richard Vanderwhile develop a friendship do you agree with the narrator of the book that people of similar social standing and upbringing will gravitate towards each other?
Yes. (view spoiler)
30: The Count became very upset when he discovered Sofia and Anna had become acquainted without his knowledge. Why do you think he wished to keep his relationship with Anna and his life as Sofia's father separate?
As Marina commented to Sofia, the Count wanted to keep ‘his buttons in their boxes’. He liked to keep his relationships ‘distinct’.
31: Were you surprised when Richard asked the Count to spy? Do you think this request and the Count turning him down will affect their friendship?
Richard valued his friendship with the Count and he had lot of regard for him and admired him. As the Count was ‘no more inclined to gossip than to spy’, Richard left it at that. They shook hands and parted as good friends.
32: What did you make of Mishka's Manuscript on bread? Do you think bread holds a special place in the Russian consciousness after reading the quotes Mishka used?
Yes. I think bread holds a special place in Russian consciousness. At the time Mishka’s Manuscript was created, there was difficulty in obtaining bread. People had to stand in queues for long hours to get bread. It was one of the reasons Mishka was asked to remove the lines referring to good quality bread from Chekov’s essay. In his Manuscript, he included the edited lines! Sort of thumbing up the authorities, I think.
33: As we come to the final part of book what do you imagine will become of the Count, Sofia and Anna?
We will be seeing this as the book unfolds to conclusion.
Dragana wrote: "May 17 1950/Adagio.. - Achilles Agonoistes 321 - 394Discussion Questions
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Thanks a lot, Dragana, for explaining about the special place of Bread in Russian culture. I did not know this.
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You are welcome. :)
For those who want to find out more about BREAD and salt, here's a helpful article on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_a...
..."In general, the word "bread" is associated in Russian culture with hospitality, bread being the most respected food, ..."
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(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I do not have in depth knowledge about Russian history but I was aware of the revolution and Tsars being executed. I will read up on it as I progress with the book.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I loved this part. We are sentimental of certain possessions as we have emotional attachment due to memories associated with them. He took quite a few possessions which initially I thought were too much but seems to have worked out. I would take a lot photographs and books and if I was allowed my phone with internet connection.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I did relate with his struggle to read the Essays. There have been times I had to read a whole chapter because I did not find anything familiar in it after I had read it. I dont relate to the chair thing. I usually read lying down on the bed.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I think he is dealing with it quite well. But these are initial days so it will be interesting to see how he continues in his captivity. I liked his sense of humor and his ability to adapt to change. Committing to practicalities I think here means that instead of wallowing in the what should or could have been he decides to see to what he can control whether it is setting up his rooms, reading the Essays or continuing on with his daily routine.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think it's a reference to him losing his title and discovering his life without it. I liked the character and how he is dealing with the changes in his life.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
Nina initially came across a little bossy to me. But I like her initial conversation with the Count. She definitely seems knowledgeable for a child of 9. I am not sure if she is going to be an important character through out the book but in this set she did help the count to see the other side of the hotel.