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A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles (Anything Goes BOM); Starts May 12, 2017****REVISIT informal buddy reads starts August 3, 2018
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
Nope I haven't read any Russian literature so can't really compare this novel to any of them.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
I didn't feel like there was a large cast of colourful characters, it still felt like quite a lonely existence to me. I did like the scene in the restaurant with the young couple.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
She came across as very spoiled and used to getting her own way and behaving childishly when she doesn't. She does however seem to know what she wants and goes for it which I do admire. I kind of get the feeling that story might be over but who knows she may reappear at some point.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I think being trapped in the hotel while everyone else is out in the world is just starting to get to him. Nina is going to school so has other friends now, his best friend is busy and has met someone and he is trapped in a kind of limbo. I think he still has friends but he has less in common with them as he's failing to keep up with what's going on in their lives and in the world in general. He has nothing to do and nothing but time and everyone around him is busy and doesn't have time to spend with him.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
It seems that the Bishop has some powerful friends and a strong dislike for the Count. I definitely think he was behind the changes as he knew nothing about wine and the Count liked to show his superiority about this.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I like the footnotes although the formatting on my kindle is weird. I don't think it's the Count as it comes across more as someone outwith the story.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I haven't read the part with the Count attempting suicide yet but I think it's just that he feels left behind and invisible. The world he knows and loves is being destroyed and he's very much on his own and lonely. I think it was the little luxuries and indulgencies that made his confinement bearable (a particular bottle of wine to accompany a meal) so without them it all seems pointless.
I do like the Count as a protaganist. Honestly I can't stay in my house for 24 hours without going crazy so the fact he's lasted 2 years stuck in a hotel is impressive. He seems to have such a great attitude. I think he loves Russia, the culture and the people and that's why he's back in Moscow.
Is this book making anyone else really hungry? All the descriptions of stews, roast beef and Yorkshire puddings, and ice cream is giving me serious cravings for comfort food.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I am not very familiar with Russian history and politics during this time period, so I was a bit lost when the book started. Still not really sure, history-wise what's going on!
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
Reading and writing are important to him, so I can understand him wanting the desk. Some of the other possessions he took had personal meaning to him. If I was in a similar situation, I would have also taken all the books!
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I just don't understand why he gave himself that challenge to read all the essays. If a book bores me, I move on and don't force myself to finish.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I think it means that he'll make the most of the situation. I admire that he seems to be taking his situation in stride. He hasn't gotten upset about being moved and is making the best of his situation.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I would hope a Count is a gentleman, which he is. I think the title sounds better too using "gentleman" instead of A Count in Moscow. I do find him to be an appealing character.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
So far, Nina seems to have a maturity that is much older than her age. I think she has already been important so far in entertaining the Count and showing him to see things in a new way.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I am not familiar with Russian History at all. Thanks for the tidbit about the Revolution.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I liked the way he took the possessions that meant something personal to him. I sometimes find myself living in the past instead of the present. So I understand where he is coming from. I would have taken all the books as well.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I am just like the Count in this way. I find myself finishing books even if I don't like them. I am a little bit OCD in that way. I love to curl up on the couch and read my books.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I think he is taking it really well. He seems to take it like he has not other choose. Which I guess he doesn't. LOL
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
The title definitely sounds better with "Gentlemen" than "Count". I think he has acted like a gentlemen the whole time so far in the book. I think Count is just a title.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I like Nina so far. She keeps the Count busy so that his days aren't boring and long. I like that she has a mind of her own but is also willing to learn.
Suzanne wrote: "It's hard for me stopping too instead of keeping going. I felt the same way about reading it - I didn't think it looked very exciting. But I do like the writing so far."I agree with you and Lusie. It is difficult to stop reading this book. But the slow reading makes one enjoy it all the more. I had my misgivings when I started the book and found it is the Red Revolution era. But I was proven wrong. The writing is so good and interesting. By the way the story develops, one is not bored at all.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I have very basic understanding of that period of Russian history, but not much. I was a bit confused at the very beginning of the book, but so far, the writing is very engaging.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I loved the desk - always take cash. I liked that he was practical and brought only the items he would need (of course books are always needed).
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I do have my favorite chair to curl up in to read, but at this point of my life, I rarely pick up something just to challenge myself. I read to relax.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
At this point, I greatly admire his attitude - he's adjusting to items as they come up.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I do think he's a very appealing character so far. Count was a title he was given, but he was raised to be a gentleman and I think that will last.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character? I think Nina has a lot in common with the count - she had no control of her situation, but not only made the best of it, but I think improved her situation by starting habits that will help her in later life.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I do, this was such a rough period in Russia with world war, then civil wars. I can't even imagine how people managed these periods of time. What impacts me more about the start of the book, is how easy going the Count is about his future.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
Oh, that is one of the same quotes I highlighted in my book. It really made me think about those inanimate objects that we've given so much depth of feeling to. What he did choose has made me more curious about his sister (the painting, her scissors, his memories of reading to her) and his current relations.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
It feels like me and literary fiction...sometimes you feel you should read something, even though I'd rather be reading a romance novel :) I feel that he enjoys living life (chair tettering), so I'm not sure what impact long term confinement will have on him.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I admire how he is embracing his fate, rather than wallowing in misery. Yet, a little part of me doesn't understand how he isn't more outraged (but really what will that get him in the long run). I'm a bit intrigued by his behaviors, especially his friendship with Nina.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think because he truly has been acting as a gentlemen in his manners and demeanor. So far I do find him appealing because I'm still wrapping my brain around his ability for acceptance of his situation.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
So far, I'm really liking Nina. Her thoughts about the railway assembly and thinking about how the tracks are made and how the trains move really show to her deeper thinking and that maybe some day she will be a game changer.
Chris wrote: "Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you..."
Oh, how exciting to have stayed somewhere you are reading about, especially with these history pieces thrown in!
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works? I've read the two Tolstoy books listed and some Pushkin. I think this book mirrors Tolstoy's need to 'find meaning in a meaningless world'.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most? I thought the meeting with his old friend showed more about his character than most of the others.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later? I didn't expect that! I think it served to show how society had been so upended and how Rostov's world had changed.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends? I think he is struggling with the idea that he has become irrelevant. His only purpose is to remember his family.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?I definitely thought it was retribution for the scene where he embarrassed the Bishop with the couple ordering wine.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be? Hmmm. I didn't pay attention to that.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far? I think he was driven to it by his growing alienation. I think he returned because he felt it was where he belonged - his family, his heritage.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I have never read any of these Russian novels.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
Meeting up with his old friend was interesting. It just showed how much the Count is missing from the world. Everything and everyone is changing around him but he just seems to be stagnant in time.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I thought she was an interesting character that will show up again. She seemed pretty spoiled to me for being poor as a child. You think she would be grateful for what she has now.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
It just shows how his world has not evolved. People are moving on with their lives and he is stuck.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I think the Bishop was embarrassed about the Count interrupting him with that young couple so he decided to get the Count back.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
With reading it on my Kindle I didn't even click on them to see what they said.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I am still not sold on this book yet. I am still quite bored with it. I think the Count moved back to Moscow to be close to his heritage.
I wish I could stay with the slow reading pace of everyone else. I'm really enjoying this book. So much more so than I expected to. I don't read a lot of General Fiction and yet I am loving the cultural flavors of this story. Unfortunately while I was able to get my hands on the book it's a new book in my library and as such I only have it on loan until today as there are already other hold requests on the title. So today is for immersing myself in a wonderful novel and enjoying the reading before I must return its wonder to the library. :)
I agree, Shelby. I'm going to stick to the reading schedule so I can answer the DQs, but I definitely want to read on. The writing style is just gorgeous and I love all the characters, especially the Count. Good thing is that I have the Kindle ebook so I can take my time. :)
I started a little late as I can never stick to the reading schedule. I'm loving this book so much more than I expected. I'm not generally a fan of historical fiction but there's something addictive about it.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
Some, but I'm quite bad at history. It makes me feel more confident going into the book. I feel less intimidated by him, because there is less information I need to understand and register.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
Nice comparison. Although I would hardly say that the count is as badly off as the "Little Princess". Of Course this might change later.
As long as he took what he believes is the most valuable emotionably I'm happy. And the books! haha
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I totally understand him. I'm exactly like that when I read for a class, haha. but he should not force himself to read what he is not enjoying.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I don't understand fully what he means to do exactly. so far there is nothing I really admire, except maybe commiting to read books. It's always a good thing in my opinion.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think it's because the title of count does not matter as much as it used to. Also I believe that a count is not necessarily a Gentleman...
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I like her and how curious she is of everything. I also like her wit. I hope she will be important.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I haven't actually read an Russian literature, though not because of lack of interest. I have a couple of those on my TBR list. I've just always been distracted by other books, haha. I couldn't say how this book may be similar or dissimilar.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
The actress was interesting, though I think I found that encounter to be my favorite because of her dogs. I also liked the fact that the Count got under her skin. She seems like a woman who isn't used to not having the upperhand. I also enjoyed meeting Mishka, Alexander's eccentric friend who paces all the time.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I talked of her a bit in the previous answer. She's certainly intriguing, if a little haughty. I think she'll have more of a role to play in this story.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
It does seem like the Count's presence is fading. He mentions how people are beginning to not notice when he enters a room or aren't as chatty as they once were. And it seems obvious that Nina isn't as friendly as she once was. I'm not sure if Alexander has many, if any, true friends left, but I hope I'm wrong.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I think the description of the wines was elegant. That was a beautifully written passage, in my opinion. I also think it's completely ridiculous that they removed all the labels!!! There are so many differences in wine beyond "white" and "red"!!! Ugh. I don't think the Bishop orchestrated the new rule, but I feel he had a hand in it. Probably whispered something to the right person who had enough influence/power. The little snake...
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I think the narrator and the Count are two different characters, as it were, though the both have a similar tone. I loved the footnotes! I loved the extra information and the liveliness of the tone. I think the Count start with the same vivaciousness as the narrator, but I feel like it's slowly draining from him due to his circumstances.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I think the last bit before he went back to grab that particular bottle of wine, when he was musing on the fact that the aspects of the Russia he loves are quickly disappearing, tells us why he might be considering suicide. For a man who is so used to being "with the times" and "in the thick of things", it must be quite a shock to be so on the periphery. And all these drastic changes I think are a bit too much for him. Now that, as he says, he's becoming ghost-like, I feel like he's becoming increasingly hopeless.
I thought he returned to Moscow to help his Grandmother escape? That was the vibe I got. And I feel like he stayed because he wouldn't give the Bolsheviks the satisfaction of running away. I'm liking the Count so far and I'm really hoping he doesn't actually go through with his plan...
Shelby wrote: "I wish I could stay with the slow reading pace of everyone else. I'm really enjoying this book. So much more so than I expected to. I don't read a lot of General Fiction and yet I am loving the cul..."i am loving this much more than I anticipated too. The writing is just gorgeous and I absolutely love the Count's analysis of things he sees and hear's. Nina is a wonderful character too, and is turning into a great companion to the Count, opening his eyes to things he hasn't noticed before.
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?No, I don't know much about Russian literature. I have seen Anna Karenina and War And Peace, the movie adaptations. In both of these some of the characters are also rich aristocrats who have definite hardships to overcome. So maybe this is a common theme between the book and Russian literature?
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
The story of the Count in the coat closet struck me the most. I think it illustrated just how much he longs to be free to roam outdoors. By looking and smelling the coats it helped to bring back memories for the Count, and he could escape the prison of the hotel for awhile.
I also enjoyed the romantic couple story. The Count created details of their relationship to amuse himself and live vicariously through them. His wine expertise is important here. Which I think is important for the last chapter in this section and his reaction in the wine cellar.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
She really knows how to make an entrance! LOL Seriously, though, her reaction to the Count picking up her shirt baffled me. I thought it was way out of proportion. I am not sure if she will reappear. Not sure I want her to come back to the story.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
These are definitely lonely times for the Count. His invisibility spell is a metaphor for his loneliness. It has been years since he has been confined to the hotel. I think he is losing touch with friends and acquaintances.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
The new regime orchestrated this. I could see how the Count would take this hard. His knowledge of wine is important to him. It's one aspect of his old life he can hold onto. Now, this has been taken away from him.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I am listening to the audiobook. It is being narrated in a cheerful voice. I hadn't really considered the narrator's voice versus the Count's actual feelings. But, no, I don't think the Count's feelings match the narrator's voice.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I think the Count's lack of purpose is getting to him. Others are moving on without him. Nina is occupied with school. I also think he is feeling out of place, obsolete in his own time
I feel for the Count and his predicament. So far, though, I have not really connected to the Count. I am curious to find out how the book ends. Especially since the author has teased that the fate of Prince Nicholai will have something to do with the ending of the book.
Alison wrote: "Is this book making anyone else really hungry? All the descriptions of stews, roast beef and Yorkshire puddings, and ice cream is giving me serious cravings for comfort food."LOL. I agree. The descriptions of wine makes me thirsty for a glass or two as well.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I have no previous knowledge of Russian history and politics and hence I read with an open mind.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
As he is known for his poetry I found it appropriate that he took the things necessary for writing a desk and the chairs and lamps/lights. I half expected him in his exile continue writing poetry, continuing the revolutionary path. I find that I may want similar things... a comfortable chair to read in, a lamp with good lighting, a desk. I would also want the conveniences of today, computer, iPad, phone, access to wifi. and a self-replenishing mini-fridge and of course books.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I don't tilt in my chair but I do enjoy lounging to read. There are books that are just too dry and in of itself make for very difficult reading. We read for enjoyment and escapism but when reading is the only form of entertainment and distraction when there is no other purpose for which to distract one's self then reading can become a begrudging task, one that inspires a heaviness of soul instead of a lifting of the spirits into new untold worlds and discoveries.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally, decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does at this early stage that you particularly admire?
Interesting to me, is that in the face of such a change in circumstance the Count endeavors to maintain his routine in the beginning as if he has not been affected by his imposed confinement. His feathers appear to not be ruffled by the change but he is late in realizing that things must and will change in how he moves forward to safeguard his sanity. I admire that once this realization comes about he adapts easily. The count is very fluid in his approach to life and in the face of change even when adapting he still manages to hold on to the tenants of being a gentleman as a guiding rule.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think the book is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" because The Count seems to be ruled by the principles of being a gentleman and even though he may find himself in a circumstance or position that may put into question his position as a gentleman he is steadfast in maintaining his decorum.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I think Nina is a catalyst. In his moment of despair when the Count comes to the realization that, the space he now occupies in the world is vastly smaller and may be closing in; Nina opens a hidden trap door to his world. While her presence at first is unwelcome. The Count is savvy enough to realize that Nina is an opportunity not to be dismissed, and only because of his gentlemanly conduct and his current stat of idleness is he is able to accept and appreciate the distractions that Nina is able to offer. I think at this point she is a central character for the Count and I worry at the inevitable moment when she can no longer be the nucleus of his world.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I have read Anna Karenina. That book was also about aristocrats. But in that book religion and infidelity were big themes, and they are not even discussed in the book we are reading now.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
What I liked most was the encounter with the handyman on top of the roof. That was a nice scene. I liked that he was finally able to go outside again.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
She seems spoiled and selfish. I thought it was so silly of her to throw her clothes on the floor and even out of the window! I have a feeling she might come back in the story again.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
No he doesn't have any real friends. They are too busy to think of him.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
The bishop is definitely behind it, because he didn't like that the count has superior knowledge about wine.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I'm reading the ebook and must admit I didn't even notice the footnotes!
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
It was a bit sudden and I didn't understand this ending...especially when the book just continued in the next part of the book.
I'm not sure why he went back to Russia.
I liked the first part of the book better. I'm starting to get bored with this book. I like the count okay, but like Brittney I'm not sold on this book.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
This story actually made me google the Russian history and the time of the Red Terror. It was brutal and around 1.5 million people were massacred. All the royals had to flee the country. So the sentencing of a royal to a luxury hotel, where he is roaming about freely and enjoying all the amenities came off as a bit unrealistic. Maybe I expected something more serious and realistic after reading the Russian history....
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I think like him I would take things that have memories associated and lots of books too (obviously)
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
Every person has certain likes and dislikes when they read. The count does not like heavy books but it's great that he is making an attempt.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
There is not much that has happened till now so I can't really say.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
After the monarchy were overthrown the concept of royalty was wiped out from Russia. So maybe the author is reiterating that he is just a Gentleman in Moscow (as he doesn't have a legitimate title anymore)
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I think she has opened an new world within the hotel for the Count and using this world, the count may learn to survive his confinement...
Suzanne wrote: "Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how y..."
I actually have little or no knowledge about Russian history so this book has started out a little confusing for me and I honestly thought I was not going to enjoy or understand the book at the beginning fortunately that is not the case anymore!
2. I thought that saying goodbye to people vs. possessions was one of the first things that made me realize I was going to love this book. It is an amazingly insightful idea and one that makes total sense to me. We are actually planning a big move in a few years and I am already trying to wheedle down my "Things" that I don't need to take with me. And I think that the one thing I would take with me (and plan to take) are photographs. Everything else can be replaced (even books) but photos capture a moment and help you keep memories alive.
3. I can certainly relate to the Count struggling with reading what appears to be boring Essays, I often struggle to read non fiction like that, particularly if it seems to keep repeating itself. As far as titling the chair back that scares the heck out of me. I knew a girl who did that when I was in high school and the chair fell back and she hit her head and ended up with severe brain damage. 8-(
4. I admire the fact that he is trying to make the best of a bad situation. Not letting this confinement get to him but understanding that if he keeps to his routine and worries about the day to day stuff he has control over he will not miss what he can't do anything about.
5. First of all a Gentleman sounds better and it also makes the book more intriguing for me just from the title because you have no idea what the book is about. Also there is a definite reason and he talks about that on page 37 when he says " ... a gentleman's presence was best announced by his bearing, his remarks, and his manners. Not by the cut of his coat." I think this is the heart of the early plot in the book and why it is titled A Gentleman in Moscow" because you can take everything away from someone Except their thoughts and actions. And he is a wonderful character so far in my opinion.
6. Nina is so cute and precocious! She makes me smile and I can picture her so well. She obviously is already an important character as she helps the Count deal with the boredom that is already setting in.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I have not read any of the books cited.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
The Count’s encounter with Prince Nikolai Petrov (who chose to work as second violinist) and also liked the scene with Abram, the old handyman on the roof of Metropolis.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I find Anna Urbanova a self made person coming from an underprivileged family. She wants to give the ‘impression of an imperious young lady’. While she is ambitious and aspires to rise in society, she is quite practical. I think she will reappear in the story later.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
It is the belief of the count and no evidence to support this.
At that point he did not have friends near him as they were all preoccupied. But friendship never dies. In addition he has made many of the staff of Metropolis his friends.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
There is no wonder that the Count knows much about wines as he from a great aristocratic family and he is a connoisseur of wines and a gourmet.
Bishop is a misfit for his job and ignorant. He is not aware of the finer nuances of dining and out of spite and to veil his ignorance, he orchestrated the change.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I feel the footnotes are by the author. Naturally, the narrator and the Count would be similar. The Count has been trained to master the circumstances and hence behaves with equanimity under all circumstances.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
The Count tends to correlate events and objects of the past with the present which reduces him to a nebulous state of mind. He feels guilty that he could not be near Helena when she died while he was in self exile at France. Now, he feels that when a man is exiled in his own country, ‘there is no beginning anew’.
The Count returns because of the Revolution. He wants his old grandmother to be safe and smuggles her out of the country. He loves Russia and its rich culture and chooses to stay there.
I like the Count very much as a protagonist.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
Having taken a class on russian literature at my university, I had the occasion to read some of these books. I've read Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Turgeniev, to name a few. Reading the book I have the same kind of feeling from when I read those classics, especially because of the character. In classic russian literature the protagonist is often an idle gentleman of some sort with strong ideas.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
hmm, probably when he spied the young couple. I loved the commentary. haha.
the encounter with the actress was not bad either. that was interesting. I find actresses are always interesting characters in books. It can be in a good or a bad way, but they always are.
I loved the little story about the apple tree.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
Like I said, I like her. I have no doubt that we'll see her again.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
the spell cannot be real. he just doesn't understand what he is feeling yet. Having read some russian classics, I know that often a male character will feel out of sorts when he falls in love. Be it Oblomov, Onegin or that guy from Father and Sons. They all experienced it to some extent. I'm not sure if it's love yet, though. We'll see.
As for his friends... I'm not sure if he has any true friends left...
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I have no taste for wine, but I liked the description here and the metaphore following.
I don't like that bishop. I'm not sure who orchestrated it all, but I have no doubt the bishop had a hand in it.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I haven't thought about that, to be honest. I'll pay more attention to it in the future.
As for the footnotes, I have not notice them because I'm reading the e-book...
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I think he's okay. But I reserve my final judgement for when we learn more about his past.
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I know nothing about Russian history and politics. The closest I know of anything Russian related is the Romanovs. I find their story interesting and thus have read materials related to them.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
When I first read the paragraph referring to possessions as becoming more important sometimes I disagreed vehemently. Then the last phrase saying "But, of course, a thing is just a thing" saved me from scoffing and I agree with the sentiment. If I were in a similar situation I think I'd pick possessions I find dear to my heart. And of course the one that has gold in it too ;)
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
As bookworms, we usually have our preferred reading spaces and positions so yes I can relate in that regard. I understand also his struggle with the essays for that's how I felt when I was doing my thesis or journal reviews back then.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
Well I do admire the way he accepted his circumstance. Am sure as a Count he is used to luxury but then suddenly he was relegated to living in an attic room. Though allowances were made for him, it still is a leap from being a free man to a prisoner albeit his is inside a hotel. I admire the way he's just accepted this and not making a scene.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
Maybe because the authors meant Gentleman to describe the MC's personality and to pertain to how he acts and thinks. SO far he is interesting mostly I want to know why he chose to stay when he could have accompanied his grandmother in going back to Paris.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I think I've read a blurb or reading status somewhere in Litsy mentioning a girl that becomes some sort of a friend to the MC. Maybe it's going to be Nina?
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour? It was an interesting meeting, and I agree that it is often easier to talk to strangers. I think it explains who and what he is, and he definitely felt responsible.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey? I think he thought he could still have hope.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six. I think it could be a terrible punishment, but Rostov makes the most of his life despite the sentence.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions? Her own obsession with the details of the new state was typical of her character, but I think she'll come around.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other? I think they have a good understanding of each other and will remain friends.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction? They have formed a friendship which excludes the Bishop, who was willing to have them punished for any infraction - including hoarding the ingredients of the bouillabaisse.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble? I think they'll reach and understanding, and Glebnikov needs his expertise to guide him in international relations.
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
Yes, I know quite a bit about history and I was excited to learn about a period of time from someone from that time period would have lived in the turbulent time.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
Practical things of use that are refined to a gentlemen's standard. He can use the items as well as feel like he isn't losing himself.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
He is a romantic and the essays are a lessons for a practical mind. For example: If I walk in house I would go upstairs insert pages on reasons why to go upstairs or I would go downstairs insert the same dull reasons.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I think he meant he would continue to be a gentlemen in the face of situation that was unfairly thrust upon him
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think it is a clever title because the count thinks of himself as a gentlemen of all else. The titles quit mattering and people were not allowed to refer to him them and he said "a gentlemen must change with the times."
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
She will be a critical character into teaching him about life through a child's eyes a renewed since of excitement that only a child can bring. I am secretly hoping she is one of the Romanev's children that survived that fatal night when the family was massacred.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I have some vague knowledge of the start. There is definitely a lot of upheaval going on in Russia at this point in history.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
My books, all of them ;). Though I think I would make sure they were MY books, whereas the Count just brought his dad's as a gesture.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
lol, I love to have my feet up to read and I'm actually reading Les Mis currently in a similar way. I set myself a certain number of chapters to read each day to help me move through it. Though I think I'm enjoying it more than the Count is his Essays.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I'm not sure about the commit to practicalities beyond the idea that he is stuck and can't do much more than find a way to live each day as it comes. I admire how he doesn't give up or give in to despair despite his circumstances. Also, how he can still be kind to others, like Nina.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
Well, he is no longer truly a Count. Plus, in many of the books I read with nobility in them, there is this concept that nobility (being a "gentle" man) is more than just a title, it's a way of acting and living. I'm thinking we will see him behave in a noble, gentlemanly fashion, even though he is on house arrest and been stripped of titles.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
She is adorable. My own daughter is 9 and so I'm sure I'm picturing a bit of her spunkiness when I read about Nina. I do think/hope she will be important because she has been key in opening up the possibilities to be found even when confined to one building.
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour? I wasn't surprised by the fact that he would share the information with a stranger. Sometimes it's easier to share sensitive information with a stranger than with those closest to you. I was surprised by the story itself though - It was interesting to see how the count's behavior had changed over the years and how he was as a young man. I do think that this changed his behavior over time.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey? I do think he probably would have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted. Maybe it was just the fact that the actions of the bees were so surprising that he felt there might still be mystery in his life?
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six. I definitely agree that the confinement is worse for the Count than being exiled would be. if he had left the area, he could have eventually made a new life. By being confined to the hotel, he was constantly reminded of his old life, which was no longer his. I don't think this would be the case for everyone though - the Count had lived so many experiences, I think this was especially hard on him.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions? I wasn't completely surprised as Nina had always been very focused. I do think that they could become close again later in life as Nina's experiences change her (for better or worse). I loved her in the early chapters so I hope they become friends again.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other? I think she dealt very well with the changes to her life. I don't know that she has changed - I think this may be closer to who she was prior to becoming a famous actress. I can't tell if/how their relationship will progress, but I'm anxious to read further and find out.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction? I like both Andrey and Emile - I think all three of them have some traits in common, such as an eye and consideration for detail. My guess is that it was a secret because Bishop could have created trouble for them as they were creating and enjoying a dish that was not available to all. It would have been petty on Bishop's part, but I think it would have blown into a large issue.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble? I can see that Osip would wish to meet with foreign dignitaries on their own level. By learning their language and culture, it might have given him an edge. I can't see how the Count will gain from this, but I think it makes sense for him to try, given the personality traits he's exhibited so far.
This is a slow-moving novel, but so far it fascinates me.
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I know practically nothing of Russian history but recently its been popping up all over for me and i think i really need to have a look into it
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
Gosh i am so attached to 'things'. i don't even know what i'd take. i'd probably want craft supplies, things to read and music. I'd have a hard time with photos as i fill my house with pictures
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I felt for him trying to force himself to read a book that he wasn't very interested in but i understand that certain books sit better in certain times or places in our lives. As for reading positions, i've just read the last chapter on my desk chair tilted all the way back with my legs crossed on the desk. When i was a little girl I used to love to read upside down over the back of the sofa
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I admire the Count's outlook on life. His humour, his outlook and his drive
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
i feel like the Count is a title where a gentleman is a state of being
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
i like Nina. She seems so smart and inquisitive and yet has amazing innocence and curiosity
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
The count blames himself. I think worrying about "what if..." is useless and only upsets yourself. Obviously the count hasn't come to this conclusion yet. It doesn't surprise me he told the story to a stranger. They say it is easier to talk to someone you don't know.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
No I don't think he would. He was so easily swayed not to kill himself. I don't think he really meant it. Maybe the return of the bees gave him hope.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
Yes I do think it is worse. The count would have been able to start a new life. Now he is stuck in the hotel and can't really participate.
I don't think for everyone it would be worse to be in their own country.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
Nina has always been very focused and preoccupied with what she thinks is important (princesses, her studies etc.). I don't think they will be as close again as they once were, but I do think we will see her again.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
Anna seemed to have changed. I like how she is now not showing directors how eager she is.
I was not surprised she and the count are back together, if that is how you can call it. I think they are just using each other, but it will last for a long time.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I like how he became so close with Andrey and Emile.
I was surprised too about that making the dish was such a big secret. Maybe it is frowned upon eating luxurious food? Or maybe it is just that Bishop would have spoiled things for them.
Maybe all 3 of them have good memories about the dish.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
I think it is smart of Glebnikov to learn French and English and learn about the cultures. He might have thought of the Count, because he is known to be a gentleman and is a learned man.
I can't see how the count can profit from this, but it can't hurt so way not.
I'm not sure how I feel about the break day... This is a slow paced book and I'm afraid if I wait too long with reading again, I'll not be able to get easily back into the book. Though I think waiting 1 day is not too long. Do you like that we have a break day?
I had to read the book in a day and then return it to the library (29 holds!) so let's see what I remember.14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
What's odd is that I can't remember what happened to his sister beyond vagueries, so I guess it wasn't super important except that it pushed him out of Russia for so long?
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I think the idea is supposed to be that he can still experience things from outside the hotel. If I recall correctly this is just before he becomes a waiter, perhaps the idea of experience through food (the honey) begins here, Much of the food really mentioned comes from other places. Bouillabaisse is French, for instance, and some of the other foods are from Soviet countries but not necessarily Russia.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
The house arrest makes it easier for him to see his country and people passing him by, and I think is meant to bring home his diminished station. It also makes it harder for him to meaningfully meet new people, as corresponding with them when they're not at the hotel might be dangerous for both of them. That last one has no textual backup, but historically speaking I think it holds up.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
We have to remember that by now Nina has been taught a political system that regards the Count's noble title and position as the worst sort of excess. Also, she's a teenager and he's forty-ish at this point.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
Anna has gotten smart and is manipulating Party values to her advantage, which is pretty great. I wasn't surprised, but that was mostly because I couldn't imagine a character existing in this book and only showing up once.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I bring up my idea from earlier about experience through food. Additionally, the effort of getting the ingredients invests the food with more significance and vice versa.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
The Count is fairly well traveled and would have had to know these things, plus, it's not like Osip won't always know where the Count is. *shrug* And Rostov really has no way to argue, either.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I have read a few and I very much appreciate the effort of the author to help us keep all the russian names straight! I think it has a similar slow, contemplative feel, but that's as much as I can say. It's hard at this point to compare it to Anna Karenina, one of the few Russian novels I've read.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
I liked the vignette of the actresses turmoil after she kicked the count out of her bed. Serves her right :D.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
Maybe? I thought Nina would have a bigger part, but so far I have been wrong, so now I'm not sure to trust my instincts on this book. Normally, I'd say yes ;).
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
I think he does, but since he is a man stuck in time, it's a bit as if the world moves on around him. He may end up being more of an observer than someone who can effect the world around him.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
I definitely think it was out of spite. No ones likes to feel like they are ignorant on something, and unfortunately revenge is the way some people deal with that realization. I don't think the Count intended to make him feel bad, though. I also find it sad that all the creative effort and time that went into those wines were ruined so easily because of the political atmosphere.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I don't think the narrator is the same as the Count. In my mind, it's the author stepping in and helping us along. I very much enjoyed his asides in this section. Especially the part about the Russian names!
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I am not sure why he returned to Moscow, though I have a suspicion he felt it was the honorable thing to do. I really like him as a protagonist. His thoughts and connections as he observes the hotel around him are interesting and often fun. I'm interested to read more!
Lusie wrote: "I'm not sure how I feel about the break day... This is a slow paced book and I'm afraid if I wait too long with reading again, I'll not be able to get easily back into the book. Though I think wait..."For some of us who are slower readers it gives us a chance to catch up so I think it is a good thing.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
Yes, I actually have quite a bit of background knowledge, however, historic knowledge seems quite separate from the aristocratic mind of our titular gentleman
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I definitely was also feeling the Little Princess vibe. All of the furniture seemed like a good take, and when he first elected to take ALL of the book, I was cheering, but later when he talks about not even liking any of the books, it seemed like a bad plan, and then I want to know why he didn't have a SINGLE book of his own there. That is quite strange to me. The 24 sets of glasses is rather odd as well, and if he later ought bedding, why not take what he had? I would be grabbing my own pillow for sure.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
We all have our own reading stances, however he seems to have a bit of ADD and trouble with keeping on a single subject in life period. Reading about him reading essays he is not into, is not overly enticing to be honest.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I think that he is still kind of acting spoiled and not really getting anything our of his sentence.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I think that although he is a count, he is consistently going back to manners and ways that his behavior as a gentleman and being a host are important. Another title count have been an Aristocrat in Moscow. The actual title of Count does not seem to define him nearly as much. Overall I'm not really feeling him, I don't hate him, but he's not someone who's story I really care about at this point.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
She is definitely representing a pivotal point in the story i n some way, I am sure we will find out what that is. He is very keen on colors.
Day 1 Discussion QuestionsSection: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book? (Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
I didn't have any knowledge of Russian history and honestly I didn't have much interest in it either. The fact that the book is so heavy on the history and politics was a major turnoff for me.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
Loved that quote! The items he selected had some importance to him and weren't just picked without thought. If I had to pick one thing I would say my iPad. It has everything on it - books, music, photos, games, more than enough to keep me occupied :)
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
Oh yea. Even just getting through the first half of this book was hard for me so I just kept telling myself "Just power through it!"
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
He tries to keep a positive outlook, doesn't just give up. And he doesn't appear to lose his sense of self - being gentlemanly and not becoming bitter or angry.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
I thought he was stripped of his title (?). But I think Count is just a title and doesn't have any bearing of the type of character he is, whereas Gentleman actually describes his character.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I thought she was cute and did think she would become important to Alexander.
Day 2 Discussion QuestionsSection: Archeolgies – 1924: Anonymity, pgs. 77-145
(TW: question 13 addresses attempted suicide)
7. A Gentleman in Moscow references a lot of famous Russian literature (War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, etc.) and famous Russian authors (Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, etc.). Have you read any Russian literature/any of the books the author cites? How is this novel similar or different to these works?
I've only read Anna Karenina which I HATED. With a passion. It pretty much turned me off of Russian Literature and I have no desire to read any others. Harsh I know but I just think that Russian is not for me.
8. The Count met a large cast of colorful characters in this section. Which encounter, vignette, or flashback was your favorite? Which one struck you the most?
I just finished the book so I can't remember which ones, if any, stood out to me.
9. What do you think of Anna Urbanova? Do you think she will reappear in the story later?
I thought, You go Alexander! for hooking up with the actress haha :) But I didn't really like her. She was too much of a diva. But I did think she would reappear later but didn't know in what capacity or if her character would even be important.
10. The Count believes Anna has cast a sort of spell on him that is turning him more ghost-like. Is there evidence to support this? The Count vividly describes friendship in the last chapter of this section, Anonymity (on page 134). By his description, do you think the Count has any remaining friends?
Not at all, it was just in his mind. But I do think he started losing hope and felt almost like life was moving by without him. His previous friends were moving on and he was just stuck.
11. The wine cellar seems to be a turning point in the Count’s perspective on his imprisonment. What did you think of his description of the wines? What are your thoughts on the Bishop? Do you think that he really orchestrated this change out of spite, or was it higher officials that brought this to pass?
Hated Bishop, the pompous ass. He was bitter, and spiteful, and of course I think he was behind it.
12. The narrator has a couple of lively footnotes in these chapters. Do you think the narrative voice is the Count, or someone else? How are the narrator and the Count similar or different? Do you think the Count is as happy or vivacious as the narrator seems to be?
I actually didn't pay attention to the footnotes.
13. The chapters in this section foreshadow the Count attempting suicide. We were left on quite a cliffhanger! What do you think has driven him to this point? As we are getting more of a window into his past, do you have any theories as to why the Count returned to Moscow in the first place? How do you like the Count as a protagonist thus far?
I thought he returned to help his grandmother before the revolution? I think he lost hope and purpose, and I think he was lonely. He had his adventures before coming back to Russia so being cooped up in the hotel is quite a change. Of course he's going to get depressed, even if not shown on the outside. I thought the Count was charming but more than anything, I felt sorry for him.
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
I think sometimes it's easier telling strangers a personal story as they don't know anything about you or the situation and are less likely to judge or have anything negative to say about it. It wasn't his fault but he had a close relationship with her so he feels guilty for not being there.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I don't think he would have gone through with it - it was way too early in the story :) I think something about the honey gave him hope.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
I do think it is a greater punishment because just like the quote, he can't start a new life, he's stuck. If he were exiled elsewhere, at least he would be able to start new - have new experiences, see new things, meet different types of people.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
I hated that she was so indifferent with him but can also see that happening because that was so many years past and she had grown up. I thought that would be it for any relationship between them.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
I WAS surprised they kept up their affair! But I'm glad he's at least had that :) I do think she has become more humble but smart. I think they developed a fondness for one another and a friendship.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
During that time I believe items were rationed and some items were really hard to obtain. To be able to gather all of the ingredients at one time would have been extremely rare.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
I thought it strange at first, but maybe he did this so that he could keep his newly acquired skills from others in the government? No one would know about their meetings so why not? I thought they would develop a friendship as well as Osip wasn't condescending or hostile towards the Count.
I hadn't looked at it that way yet, Viji and Cali. A break day does give people the chance to catch up. You might have guessed I'm a fast reader. Viji, I don't agree that slow reading makes you enjoy a book more. If a book is good I want to read it in one sitting. I wouldn't like to stop if a book is super good and you just have to know what happens next. A Gentleman in Moscow is not one of those books do. Though I do agree with you that the writing is very good. It's really entertaining even when hardly anything happens.
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
Helena’s story is a sad one. Count Rostov accounts the chain of incidents which led him away from his country and why he could not be with his sister at the time of her death. It is fitting that he shared it with Charles Abernethy, a stranger as well as an aristocrat. The Count had already made up his mind to end his life and before that he opens his heart to someone who is understanding and caring. The author has found a nice way of letting the readers know what happened in the Count’s past! The Count is only regretting the ‘chain of events’ which changed the course of his life. This definitely is influencing his actions and behavior.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
If he had not been interrupted by Abram, he would have plunged down from the parapet.
The honey reminded him of the apple trees in bloom at Nizhny Novgorod and also made him realize the application of the bees in willing industry to make honey. I think that made him to opt for working as Head Waiter at Boyarsky where he could utilize his social skills in entertaining people and have some purpose in life.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
I agree that the Count’s confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he’d been exiled to another country, where he (view spoiler) It is the same for everyone as the book suggests. The Count contemplates (view spoiler)
The Prince’s episode is a vignette and he is not sharing his thoughts on being subject to Minus Six with the Count. Being allowed to live could be a great thing for him. Further, he is immersed in his music and is going around with his former teacher and fellow musicians playing violin. The Count is confined to the hotel.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
As a child, the relationship between her and the Count was very close as he was the one who had time for her and who could explain to her things she wanted to know. While growing up, she got caught up in the new way of doing things after the Revolution and went on her way. I feel that she always had the confidence that she could depend on the Count if she needed help. They may meet again.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
Anna had always been a very practical person and knew what she wanted and how to achieve that. She and the Count were attracted to each other at their first encounter itself. I think their relationship was based on understanding each other.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
The Count always used to be friendly with Andrey and Emile. Both of them had lot of respect for his former status and intelligence and social skills. In a few incidents they looked up to him for his opinion and guidance. The Triumvirate ruled the Boyarsky with their expertise in their fields. All the three were intelligent and committed to their job and worked as a successful team. They enjoyed mutual respect and willing to help each other.
Of the 15 ingredients required for making the bouillabaisse, 4 were considered to be luxury and rare at that point of time. So, they had to be secretive in obtaining them. For them, it was a symphony or silence! The idea sprang from a ‘wistful comment of Andrey’s, which had been echoed by Emile.’ They planned making bouillabaisse for over 3 years. Three time it failed due to unforeseen circumstances (view spoiler) It is an interlude which got nearly spoilt by Bishop but the Triumvirate finally succeeded in their mission and it was important to them!
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov is with the intelligence service. He takes the help of the Count to know about the Western languages and culture. The Count is under house arrest and could be tracked easily. In addition he is well travelled and educated. Osip wants to help to put Russia on the global map as a power to contend with. For this he wants to understand how the privileged classes in the West are and how they view the world. So, to improve his diplomatic skills, he seeks the Count’s help. The relationship between Osip and the Count is a double edged sword which could go either way. Further reading may answer this!
Section: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 761. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
(Note: Wikipedia states there was a Russian civil war in 1917 followed immediately by a Revolution from 1917 to October 1922 - which is the year our book starts.)
Nope.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
He probably took what was important to him and had emotional value. I would take whatever was most important, if I were the count.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I like trading, sure, but I don't tilt back when I do.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
No, not really.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
Well, it does sound better... Maybe because he's a gentleman? Sounds a lot more intriguing that way.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
Already read ahead, so...
Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
Of course it's tragic what happened to his sister. I think the reason why he told it is probably because he needed to talk about it to someone. And sometimes it's easier to talk about some things to complete strangers than to someone closer (not that has many of them left). And of course he should not feel guilty about it. it's not his fault.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
he drank a lot that night, so who knows. The question is more, would he have attempted it had he not been drunk?
The honey probably showed him that there is still hope.
16. "when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
The think about being confined in your own country is that most probably people know who you are and why you are confined. They will probably completely shun you, and you can't escape their treatment of you. Being exiled elsewhere, people might as well ignore that you are in exile. you can really start over I guess.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
I like their relationship too when she was just a curious child. I fear that any friendship now might be strained. and it's really too bad.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
I was not really surprised that they would fo back together. But I don't really believe their relationship to be serious. At least not at this point.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I like that he is making friends at last. Their little secret dinner is secret because of the food they are consuming. They are a bit of a luxury. Also because of the wine thing. Maybe this friendship is also secret because of the bishop ? I don't know.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
Lol, that reminds me a bit of My Fair Lady. haha. The man wants to be a proper gentleman. I think the Count is the best person to help him with that. Also the Count is not in a position where he can really say no. But he might get into trouble for it, I believe.
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Suzanne wrote: "I'd be happy to write daily questions (Team Palpatine). Tori - you are right - the UK cover is beautiful!"
There's an article about the design process for the UK cover: https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/on...
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Day 3 Discussion QuestionsMay 14 1926/Adieu - Addendum
14. The Count meets an Englishman in the bar and tells him what happened to his sister. What did you think of the story and were you surprised he told it to a stranger in a bar? Do you think he's right to feel responsible and do you think it is influencing his actions and behaviour?
I thought that story was sad, but I think Alexander is being far too hard on himself. Sure, he shouldn't have shot the Hussar (though he totally deserved it...) but it's not his fault the guy insisted on going back to the front with an useless shoulder and got himself killed. And it's not his fault that his sister contracted scarlet fever. I understand why he's so heartbroken, but he really needs to give himself a break. I'm not terribly surprised he told his story to the Englishmen because he was three sheets to the wind by the time the story came up. Some people get chatty when they're drunk.
15. On the night he decides to end things he involves himself in the discussion in the bar then hesitates at the edge of the roof. Do you think he would really have stepped off if he hadn't been interrupted? Why do you think he changed his mind after tasting the honey?
I would like to think that he wouldn't have gone through with it, but I think the fact that he had just had a discussion about some of the great things that have come from his country and the fact that he had been able to air his pain/guilt over his sister's death may have helped to stop him. I think the fact that bees when all the way back to his home and then came back to that particular hive to make the honey made was too much of a coincidence for the Count to not see some sort of sign in it.
Incidentally, the descriptions of food in this book are always so incredible. His description of that bite of honey gave me a craving for it and I *hate* honey!
16. "...when you exile a man into his own country, there is no beginning anew" Do you agree that for a man like the Count his confinement to the hotel is a greater punishment than if he'd been exiled to another country? Would this be the case for everyone as the book suggests? It seemed like the Prince didn't suffer so much being subject to the Minus Six.
I think it is true because, as he pointed out, in a new country, a man has a chance to start fresh and still build himself a respectable life. When you're forced to stay where you are, everyone presumably knows what you did or has heard some tale, so they may tend to stay away from you. Also, you get a constant reminder of what has been taken away from you, especially for the Count who can still see life marching on in Moscow. I don't know if it would be the case for everyone. Some people might find it easier than others to start fresh in the same place, even with the stigma. But I think it would still be much more difficult than being in a different country entirely.
17. I really like Nina as a character and loved the relationship between her and the Count so was surprised when she met him as an adult and was so cold towards him. Why do you think this was? Do you think they'll be reunited and become close again or are they heading in different directions?
Nina is a product of her times. She is growing up under the Bolsheviks and she has become indoctrinated. She wholeheartedly believes in the cause, it seems, which would mean that some like the Count, who is a Person of Interest, would not be considered good friend material. It made me really sad, to be honest. I'm hoping that they can still be friends and that her attitude towards him will defrost. It seems, at the moment, that they are doomed to drift apart.
18. Anna's fortunes changed dramatically. What did you think about how she dealt with it? Do you believe she has changed? What about her relationship with the Count? Were you surprised? Do you think it is serious and will last or are they just using each other?
I thought she dealt with her change in circumstances fairly well. She was a bit desperate at the beginning, but she took a deep breath and handled herself very well after that. I think she has changed a bit. I think she's been humbled. As for their relationship, I'm not sure if it's really sustainable. I think they'll enjoy each other, for now, but I don't think it's anything permanent.
19. The Count is working as head waiter in the restaurant and seems to have formed a real friendship with Andrey and Emile. What are your thoughts on Andrey and Emile and why do you think they get on so well? I absolutely loved the scene with Triumvirate and the bouillabaisse but was a bit confused as to why it was such a secret. Why was it so important to them and why did it cause such a strong emotional reaction?
I absolutely love this turn of events! I think it totally makes sense for him. He has a purpose, now, whereas before he was just... existing. I really enjoy the friendship he has developed with Andrey and Emilie. I thought they're secret meeting with the bouillabaisse was touching. I think it was a secret because the ingredients were hard to come by so a) it might have set off red flags in the Party and b) they probably couldn't make enough for everyone. And I think it was kind of a bonding thing for them. A treat to share among friends who worked really hard to make it happen.
As an aside, I love that Emilie chased the Bishop out of the kitchen with a celery stalk XD I hope that doesn't come back to bite him, though... the Bishop obviously holds grudges.
20. What were your feelings on the meeting between the Count and Osip Ivanovich Glebnikov? He wants the Count to meet with him regularly to help him learn about the English and the French languages and cultures. Why do you think this is and why the Count? Do you think the Count will gain anything from this or is he heading for trouble?
Osip was looking for a learned, well-traveled gentleman in Moscow, which might have been hard to come by with the Bolsheviks in power. He probably knew of the Count's house arrest, so he had someone that met his criteria and wasn't really in a position to say no. I don't get why it has to be so secretive, though... the points he made about why he needed to learn French and English were pretty valid. I feel like this collusion will not end well.
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Catherine, such a nice article to read. Thanks for sharing.
I hadn't seen the UK cover yet and think it is pretty.
I was actually quite tempted to buy a physical copy when I saw it in the bookshop. It's such a stunning cover. I don't have a creative bone in my body so I'm so jealous others can come up with something like this.
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What a brilliant article, thanks for sharing. I love the design, it reminds me of the
and the roaring 20's and 30's love a bit of vintage.
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Section: June 5, 1922 - An Assembly pages: 1 - 76
1. Do you have much previous knowledge of Russian history and politics in the early 1900s? How does that affect how you feel at the start of the book?
I have to admit I don't know much about Russian history at all. I actually tend to avoid historical fiction in general but this book sounded like more of a character study than anything which is why it appealed to me.
2. I got a bit of a "Little Princess" vibe when the count was banished to the attic of the hotel. And there is a great section on saying goodbye to people vs. saying goodbye to possessions. "We carry them from place to place, often at considerable expense and inconvenience;...all the while allowing memories to invest them with greater and greater importance....But, of course, a thing is just a thing." What do you think of the possessions he elected to take with him to the attic? If you were in a similar situation, what is one thing you would for sure take with you?
I haven't read Little Princess so I'm afraid I don't get the reference. I liked his attitude about having to relocate and highlighted the quote you mention. They are just things but I get the feeling there was an element of sentimentality to what he decided to take but also a bit of rebellion in the I'm taking as much as I can including the brandy (was it brandy?) because I don't want you to have it.
I can't think of anything that I'm particularly attached to. If I have my cat, my kindle and access to the internet I'm happy.
3. What do you think about the Count and his reading habits? Specifically - how he is struggling with the Essays and how he likes to tilt back his chair. Can you relate to either or both of those?
I think the essays are one of those books you feel like you have to read but don't particularly want to (like a lot of books in school). I can definitely relate to clock watching or for me these days it's more watching the little progress tracker in the corner of my kindle (5 hours remaining in book) when it's a book I'm not enjoying but feel obliged to continue with (book club reads mostly). I would not be doing the chair tilting thing as I would totally fall off.
4. The Count has to decide how he will handle his confinement. He thinks of favorite literary characters, and finally decides he will commit to practicalities. What do you think that means, and is there anything he does in this early stage that you particularly admire?
I think his idea of practicalities is probably a little different from most peoples (ordering his favourite soap, a cake) but it does sound like he's making the best of his resources (selling the gold from the bureau). I probably admire his attitude the most. He doesn't make a fuss or get upset about having to give away his possessions and change the way he lives. I also loved how he had a little gathering with the hotel staff in his new room.
5. Why do you think it is called "A Gentleman in Moscow" instead of "A Count in Moscow"? Just because it sounds better, or do you think there is a reason? Do you find him an appealing character so far?
Count is just a title whereas a Gentleman is more an attitude and way of behaving. I think he is very much a gentleman in the way he acts and behaves, always well mannered, cultured and with a taste for the finer things in life.
6. Nina (the little girl in yellow) seems to be an important distraction. What is your impression of her so far? Do you think she will be an important character?
I love Nina, she's so precocious and very smart for a 9 year old. I think she adds a bit of lightness to the books and some fun and leads Alexander on a bit of an adventure. i love the relationship between the two of them and I hope she stays for the duration of the book although I think it's unlikely.