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E-book vs physical books
That's like saying every time I open a book I want to write in it.
Will wrote: "Good point, Jim.What I do, see, write on screen is 'work'. I do not turn to the computer to relax. I rarely turn to the TV or DVD either: so wh should i relax with an ereader?"
That's why I'm always behind on Game of Thrones - NowTV only runs on my laptop, and setting up AirPlay to transfer it to the TV is a real faff.
But I disagree with you about ereaders. A book on a kindle is as different from a document in Word as a paperback is from an A4 printed worksheet. Word and A4 I associate wit "work" Kindles and paperbacks I don't.
Tim wrote: "Cos I was always a bit of an opportunist buyer, I've got stacks of unread DTBs, stacks of unwatched blu-rays, stacks of unread ebooks. Far more than I shall ever get around to reading/watching (I a..."That describes me too - an opportunist buyer. I'm the same, about an hour to watch TV of an evening and detest not being able to watch a film in one go, so am forcing myself to watch one a month this year.
Jim wrote: "Will wrote: "I am going to have to buy a kindle, to compare the experience, but somehow there's always something better to buy first. like that hardback over there I've always fancied...."
I'm af..."
I do understand that, I dabbled a bit in proof reading last year, and it started to take away the fun of reading, as I was always looking for mistakes - I got a book to review and ended up pointing out mistakes in it!! Never happened with paperbacks.
But I bet it would have, if you'd started proofreading paperbacks.I's even worse when you write - you start looking at passages and thinking things like "inciting incident" or "rising action", "second disaster", "point of no return"...
Niall wrote: "That's like saying every time I open a book I want to write in it."Not quite that bad. But when I'm writing I've very careful what I read
Jim wrote: "Niall wrote: "That's like saying every time I open a book I want to write in it."Not quite that bad. But when I'm writing I've very careful what I read"
I don't read Darren, or Philip Pullman, or Colin Dexter for that matter, when I'm writing, in case my vision of Oxford gets corrupted...
Tim wrote: "But I bet it would have, if you'd started proofreading paperbacks.I's even worse when you write - you start looking at passages and thinking things like "inciting incident" or "rising action", "s..."
Yes!
Not only that since reading Blake Snyder's books I've started doing it with films now too, looking for the catalyst around 20% of the way in, the break into two and so on.
I did review books for a while on my blog several years ago and I found it hard to break the habit of 'reading to review' for months afterwards*.
And at another time on my blog I was doing News spoofs and satire and found it hard not to read news stories without looking for 'an angle'.
So, as far as I can see, it is not so much the medium that dictates how you read it. It is rather the way you read it.
*which is why I'm finding it hard to decide if I want to go back to reviewing books, or not, again.
ow you guys are tough crowds to sell then..
Ha! I love how Darren has become a one name celeb. Like Cher.Hehehehe
S. wrote: "ow you guys are tough crowds to sell then.."“I'm an occasional drinker, the kind of guy who goes out for a beer and wakes up in Singapore with a full beard.”
There's really only one way to settle this, you know.
Patti (baconater) wrote: "There's really only one way to settle this, you know."there is
< he says nervously, backing out of the room and not making eye contact >
*Follows Jim, watching the corners of the room nervously*
Patti (baconater) wrote: "There's really only one way to settle this, you know."Does it involve baby oil and a game of naked Twister?
What's that I can smell in here?
Vanessa (aka Dumbo) wrote: "What's that I can smell in here?"Fear.
Trial by combat it is then.
I could have sworn I smelled bacon.
I am far too well brought up to combat a lady.
You're just afraid of meeting a crushing defeat.
I'll hold the jackets! Dust jackets and Kindle covers that is.....
Philip (sarah) wrote: "I'll hold the jackets! Dust jackets and Kindle covers that is....."And speaking of jackets, one very annoying habit of book publishers is to keep changing cover designs. Prolific authors, like Clive Cussler for example, use two-word titles that I find very easy to forget, but I remember the graphics. I've lost count of the times I've bought the same book twice because they've changed the damned cover! I don't think that will happen with e-books, because your copy will simply be updated - you won't end up with 2 copies.
Pete, if you buy from Amazon, they remind you that you've already bought it so you can't buy again by accident.
Pete, if you buy from Amazon, they remind you that you've already bought it so you can't buy again by accident.
Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "Pete, if you buy from Amazon, they remind you that you've already bought it so you can't buy again by accident."Not always true - if they are a new edition then it might not show as already purchased. I can't remember which book it was, but I do remember that happening.
Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "Pete, if you buy from Amazon, they remind you that you've already bought it so you can't buy again by accident."The repetition was so very zen :-)
I have a book where the author must have taken it off Amazon and put it back up or done a major edit as it doesn't show as me already owning it now and I could buy it a second time if I really wanted (surprisingly I dont)
Good example :o)And not even our Steve's fault, except for being too good. If his books were rubbish it would never have happened
Sorry sorry for repeating posts. Its this BlackBerry. It gives me the pip. Its good to know that about books being amended etc. I didn't know that it was possible to buy them again.
Jay-me (Janet) ~plum chutney is best~ wrote: "Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "Pete, if you buy from Amazon, they remind you that you've already bought it so you can't buy again by accident."Not always true - if they are a new edition then it mi..."
I think that can only happen if the book is unpublished and republished later. I suspect it gets a different ASIN the second time around.
I belong to a club that raises money for funds by members bringing along books for others to buy at bargain rates, consequently I have a huge pile of print books next to my bed. I would love to get a Kindle, but then I would have to share my bed with the pile of books :)
And that Jan, is a problem for what reason?The unused half of my bed always has books and maps all over it.
This might be of interest. And it's by accountants, who can use pointy things like pens and add up properly and stuff.http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment...
Strange that it's often said that the young people embrace the new technology and the old fuddy-duddies aren't impressed. I know no end of people of my age who have a kindle because they have arthritis in their hands and the weight of a trad book is a problem.People choose ebooks for different reasons.
I just buy books. Sometimes they're e-books, sometimes they're paperbacks from the local book shop. I'll often take a punt on something from a car boot. I also read lots of books I found in boxes or stashed away round our house when I was a kid... things like Out With Romany which was a big hit Radio Show in 40s and 50s. I do find, though that if a book is the same price in e-book and paperback format that I buy the paperback because I want more for £15.00 than just pixels.Cheers
MTM
Will wrote: "And that Jan, is a problem for what reason?The unused half of my bed always has books and maps all over it."
Less room for dogs and cat :) Dogs likely to kick books out of bed. :)
M.T. wrote: "I just buy books. Sometimes they're e-books, sometimes they're paperbacks from the local book shop. I'll often take a punt on something from a car boot. I also read lots of books I found in boxes o..."I bought the hardback version of Wool when it came out, cos it was only 10p more than the ebook (dirt cheap for a h/back rather than overpriced ebook), and it's a really luxurious read. There's just something about paper that you don't get on a kindle, especially when they play with textures and fonts and other little embellishments that a Kindle just can't do.
Here's a thought for the Kindlers, too.You do NOT own the books, just the ability to access the text.
In 5 Years time, Amazon brings out a new platform. All new releases are for both platforms, for a limited period, and Amazon stops supporting the Kindle... and then stops maintaining the cloud storage...
After all you want to read books in the new best format, don't you?
Wanna bet????Amazon can make more money from a new platform, and reselling all the stock in a new format. Just like record companies did with CD s.
I store all my stuff on a hard drive. At least then I'm responsible for keeping things going :-)
Calibre is our friend.And I'm surprised with you Will.
You're happy to sell ebooks, right?
That is always a concern Will but really if that happens we'll all have to keep our old Kindles and get the new one for new books. I think there could be uproar if it did happen though due to all the available customers not just through the machines but all the apps to so I think they would have to seriously think about backwards compatibility or allowing us to convert the files by removing the DRM on them. I know the DRM was put on because of piracy but I've paid for that book and I expect to be able to read it whenever and wherever I want (obviously not in paper format).
If they did do thag though I'd go into a serious downloading spree from non official sites as I won't be paying for them again when I should always be able to access it from one device or another.
Patti (baconater) wrote: "Calibre is our friend.And I'm surprised with you Will.
You're happy to sell ebooks, right?"
And I'll be happy to sell in the new format, too.
Michelle wrote: "That is always a concern Will but really if that happens we'll all have to keep our old Kindles and get the new one for new books. I think there could be uproar if it did happen though due to all t..."Same thing was s aid about CD s and Vinyl, Michelle.
There's a difference between physical formats and digital formats though. It's all about adding functionality not changing the actual product itself. Although Cd's and Vinyl hold music files the physical style is very different. Even now most mp3 players etc play most files and if they don't the file can be converted to work. There is no reason books and ereaders cant do the same.
What I do, see, write on screen is 'work'. I do not turn to the computer to relax. I rarely turn to the TV or DVD either: so wh should i relax with an ereader?