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IT Chapter 1 (2017)


You won’t care that the seven kids, who unite against a school bully, before ultimately taking on an alien monster in the guise of a killer clown, have no depth, no real personality, despite the best efforts of the young actors taking on the roles.
You won’t mind that Bill Denbrough’s stutter is not very cuh-cuh-cuh-hon-vincing, or even consistent, throughout the film.
If you never saw the 1990 mini-series, then you’ll probably sit in the cinema chugging down your full fat coke, munching your hot dogs, nachos or popcorn, waiting for the next scare or horrifying scene.
The problem is “IT” (2017) doesn’t deliver on many levels, including shock or scare value. It has a "15" certificate too. It’s mostly pedestrian hokum and, like the stuh-hutter, not convincing.
The problem when you re-make something is that it’s open to comparison, and with a thousand page novel and a previous adaptation to hold this new version up against, it had to be good…it had to be really good, and sadly, it was, at best, “watchable”.
The 1990 version may have been a bit cringe-worthy in places, a bit dated, and maybe lacking in special effects, but it was more true to its source material than this.
Bill Skarsgård was always going to have a tough task following Tim Curry’s Pennywise, and his attempt at making him lispingly seductive, rather than overtly horrific fell a little short for me.
Bill was pretending to be Pennywise, whereas Tim was Pennywise.
There’s also the problem of a time shift.
What worked well about the earlier IT was that it was set in the 1950’s, with all its naiveté, lack of technology and when rock and roll and horror movies were in their infancy.
The new 1980’s kids on the block fail as actors to convince that the kids they portray are real. They have the same names, but not the same depth, warmth or charm as that rather “hokey” 1990 version, and that’s a pity.
IT comes out of hibernation every twenty-seven years, feasts and preys on the innocent and unsuspecting, and, it appears, so do film adaptations of the novel.
Stephen King said he liked it and thought it was scary, but he wrote it, has a vested interest in peddling it, so he’s hardly likely to jump up and down, throw a hissy fit and scream “What have you done to my work…?”, is he?
He’s giggling like Pennywise as cinema turn-styles continue to rotate and ker-ching in the cash for him.
Lastly, think on this.
The 1990 adaptation was 180 minutes long and told the whole, stripped down to the bones and omitting some parts of the novel, story reasonably well, with a decent cast and credible acting.
The 2017 adaptation is 135 minutes long, tells only half the tale and does that glibly, and quite badly, omitting most, if not all of the source material. Yes, it’s set in Derry, Maine. Yes, kids are going missing and yes, it’s all down to Pennywise and the indifference of their adult parents but other than that, this is a different beast altogether…and we’ve the sequel in the pipeline to tell the rest of the tale.
Well, I don’t care what happens to these Losers, and won’t bother to see the second chapter, because, as in Ultravox’s Vienna, they mean nothing to me.
Oh, and just a thought before I go. By the time this movie was set, the original Losers - the credible ones - had tracked the clown to his lair and put out his deadlights for good, so there’s a lovely gaping plot hole for someone to fill.
No, I don’t want a balloon, and no, it didn’t float…IT sank, and IT stank.
I worry about you Stephen…I worry about you a lot.


I found it scary. So scary, in fact, at one point I jumped and kicked the (thankfully empty) seat in front of me and broke my big toe.
I think separating the Losers Club's childhood and adulthood is an interesting move. I found it refreshing that they took a different approach than just copying the style of the mini-series.
I suppose in the interest of fairness I will say I felt the CGI was too much in some places, so much that it took away from the scare factor. That and the humor of the children doesn't translate well at all. I live in Korea and the translated subtitles for Richie and Eddie we're just confusing at best. The only laugh from the audience was the rock fight.


Skargard's Pennywise was terrific for me. The drool... gave me chills and creeped me out even when he did nothing overtly ominous except speak and drool!
I applaud the film makers decision to keep the language. I think 13 -17 year olds really speak that way sometimes and to clean it up would have done a disservice to the material. I also like that they kept the violence from the "real" people, AKA Bower's gang, very, very violent. One of King's strengths is showing us that not all monsters are supernatural. Some live next door.

If Mr. King didn't like the way they portrayed the characters in his book he would have said something before it went into production. I'm sure like most authors who's books are being made into movies he has final approval of the screen play.
How do you know Henry Bowers is dead, they didn't show him dying they just showed him falling down the well.
Again this is a personal opinion and I am sure there are a few out there that think it sucks but I will say again I liked the film.


I am really looking forward to Chapter 2.

Again, we agree! I don't think Henry IS dead.

I didn't remember the bendy face lady, either.

mrbooks wrote: "I guess so, we will just have to wait to see if they decide to finish It."
The movie made a lot of money so I'm pretty sure it will get the second chapter.
The movie made a lot of money so I'm pretty sure it will get the second chapter.
This movie was great! The story really flowed (unlike another movie... I'm looking at you Dark Tower!). I thought the kids did amazing acting. I don't think (view spoiler) I personally thought the humor was spot on and the kid who plays Eddie was hilarious. The things he was saying during the scene with the slide show was so funny, you had to be paying attention to him because he was in the background. I didn't picture It's home to look like how it did. At all actually. That was the only disappointing part to me.
Everyone in the theater I saw the movie in seemed to enjoy IT and clapped when the movie was over. I wish Mike had a bigger role but the movie just wasn't long enough and in the book he is introduced later on. In part two he'll have a much larger role I'm sure. I was super impressed with this movie and can't wait for Chapter 2.
Everyone in the theater I saw the movie in seemed to enjoy IT and clapped when the movie was over. I wish Mike had a bigger role but the movie just wasn't long enough and in the book he is introduced later on. In part two he'll have a much larger role I'm sure. I was super impressed with this movie and can't wait for Chapter 2.

Agree with pretty much all of this. Keep finding myself remembering Richie wrestling with the horn player in a marching band and chuckling. Was just a small background thing, but very funny.


Unfortunately, I can't say it was anywhere near perfect. Most of the characters felt translated really well, unfortunately, that just isn't the case for Mike and Bill. (view spoiler)
As for the changes made, for a lot of it I didn't mind. I get the idea of wanting to make it a bit different to surprise those who think they know what's coming. But a bit of that just kind of fell flat and threw me out of it completely. (view spoiler)
As for Henry Bowers, (view spoiler)

Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise was absolutely sensational and captured the essence of IT from the novel perfectly. He was edgy dark psychotic, unhinged and very funny.
I am not going to mention Tim Curry and the mini series as to be frank it is poles apart from the 2017 film.
What really impressed me was the clear camaraderie with the Losers Club and the beautiful portrayal of the love triangle between Ben, Bev and Bill. I really cared about our favourite gang and the film captured this superbly.
Roll on Part 2!

While many things were left out, I loved the focus on the House on Neibolt street. I think that is one of King's most awesome inventions (along with The Mansion in the Wastelands) and I was glad to see it made prominent (I believe they didn't even touch on this in the miniseries).
I find this an acceptable adaption and a welcome addition to the It pantheon that will stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the mini-series and hopefully with the book after part 2 is out. And regardless of that, this is a kick ass horror movie. The beauty of the film and the outstanding acting are a huge payoff and hopefully bodes well for the future of the horror movie genre. I do think the first half will be easier than the second, but I can't wait for chapter 2 and I badly want to see this in the theater again.

And I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but my biggest quibble was (view spoiler) .
The scares were good, the cinematography was quite nice, and Eddie and Richie were absolutely fantastic. The actor who played Eddie was wonderful and he was one of the highlights of the film. I've only seen it once so far, but I'm sure I'll go back and see it again.

And I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but my biggest quibble was [spoilers removed].
The scares ..."
While I do agree Stan got pushed into the background for a bit, I did feel like they did a pretty decent job at showing off what they needed to for his characterization. (view spoiler)
I touched on it super briefly earlier Esse, but I agree 100% about Bev. It wasn't my major quibble (That position is filled by how they botched Mike), but it was definitely the second most irksome thing to me.
I also hate how they threw a view things in just to have it, even when it didn't make any sense to really put it in there. (view spoiler)

That is a good point on Henry,(view spoiler)

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I watched the mini series for the third time a month ago after watching it previously twice in the early 1990s. Back then I wasn't satisfied at all but now it looks incredibly clunky, dated and about as scary as an episode of Scooby Doo. The acting is terrible (Young Bev and John Boy from the Waltons as Bill in particular are shockingly bad) and the director completely misses the whole essence of the novel. The soundtrack is miserable and makes it feel like an episode of a 70's Teen made for TV drama.
I have always thought Tim Curry's performance as Pennywise was far too slapstick as well. He may as well drive round in a little car honking his horn and squirting water from his lapel flower. I know it was a PG and the effects have to be judged as in 1990 but they are truly awful.
The mini series also misses very crucial characters such as Patrick Hockstetter. That would be my only criticism of the new film in that he should have been in it a lot longer as he was beautifully crazy.
I loved the new film and have seen it twice since last Friday. Bill Skarsgard captures Pennywise from the novel exceptionally well. He is sinister, dark, psychotic, unhinged and very unsettling. An excellent performance and very well directed.
The seven child actors blow the kids from the mini series as well. The camaraderie of the Losers Club from the book is replicated beautifully in the movie. The semi love triangle between Bev, Bill and Ben is also beautifully portrayed.
There are differences from the novel but the update of the particular monsters that scare Richie, Ben and Stan I felt gave it a more modern feel and were spot on with the 1980s period. In the mini series they were very lame and made it feel like a 50's B movie.
I hope the new film will consign the mini series to the darkest vaults and we never see it again. I loved 2017 part 1 and I cannot wait for Part 2. I am going to read the book for the fifth time shortly to compare and contrast again.

I watched the mini series for the third time a month ago after watching it previously twice in the early 1990s. Back the..."
Agree with most of this, although I do think the mini series has its merits and I'm not averse to dusting it off to watch now and then. However, it's of its time and hasn't aged well for me. The new film is streets ahead of it and is a much more potent take on the book. Well so far, anyway. We'll see what they do with part two. Just hope they don't rush it out.


I've never felt the monster was the crux of the story. I've always felt it was the camaraderie and love of the Losers Club and how that makes them strong enough to defeat the monster and the movie shows us that very well.
I don't think individual scenes from the book are as important as the overall "feel", which I think is captured brilliantly. Especially the baby love triangle.

Stephen King also highlights in IT that humans can be monsters and the film captures that amazingly well.
The 2017 film is only 50% done and is FAR more faithful to the novel than the horribly clunky and dated mini series. If you don't take Candice and my word for that, listen to the great man. He was always disappointed by the mini series BUT is very happy with the 2017 film.
The mini series hasn't aged well and I was never a big fan in 1990. I always thought it was barely adequate. Tim Curry as Pennywise was slightly better than the rest of the cast (Seth Rogan apart) but for me was always way too slapstick and corny to be like Pennywise in the book. The mini series has massive continuity issues. It is poorly acted across adults and children. The director completely misses the point of the book as it has a 50's B movie feel to it with no representation of the pure evil of IT. Plus we have seen the whole story presented by the mini series and it misses way too much stuff out. Young Bev is very poor and doesn't shine like the 2017 version as a beacon of womanhood. The current young actress is very good and fits Beverley Marsh in the novel like a glove.
There are differences in the 2017 film but basically they are minor and used to give it a more modern feel. I love the fact they have updated the fears of some of the Losers to feel more modern and relevant.
But the biggest difference is pennywise. As I have said Curry's pennywise may as well drive round in a clown car honking his horn. He may have been scary if you watched the MS when you were four or five. BUT at 21 in 1990 I thought he was hugely disappointing and when I watched it again last month I just laughed at the banality of Curry's performance.
On the other hand Bill Skarsgard nails the brief. His Pennywise matches my vision from the novel. He is nasty, sinister, dark, unsettling and psychotic. The performance in the storm drain alone smashes Curry's panto clown to pieces. The way his eyes change colour and the switch in a sentence from humorous to sinister is amazing. His drool and demeanour drip through the soul and make you very uncomfortable. Loved the Pop Pop Pop as well.
Judge the 2017 film and its follow up next year against the novel as a whole and there will still be flashbacks. I would like to see more of Patrick who isn't even in the lame mini series and Henry should reappear. The new version has been directed with a modern feel but still remains faithful to the text. The mini series I am sorry is very average and I for one will never watch again now I have a vastly superior modern version.

I actually agree with Steve, but the beauty of books is that everyone can take something different from each book and no one is wrong.

• They're making a movie, not a 5 season show. They will have to leave things out and simplify others. I think they did a great job of leaving out the difficult parts to film and focusing on cinematic thrills that capture the essence of Pennywise and the Loser's club.
• The movie is not perfect, but they nail so much that I can't help but respect this version.
• The film makes obvious nods to readers, and I found myself thinking about non-filmed parts of the book and using that to fill in some blanks. This works awesome for me and helps explain some short or seemingly truncated parts of the movie. Rather than a negative, I actually found this quite pleasing.
• This movie is rated R, but they left out a ton of horrid violence and didn't rely on that for shock value. It would have been easy to make a gore-fest of human suffering and torture porn, but they kept it creepy, creative, psychological, and gave the audience room to breathe. I can't commend the film makers enough for that.
• IT actually does King justice and brings some of the best qualities of his writing to the forefront.
While there are some things I lament did not make it to film (like Mike's solitary trip to the old ironworks), I don't mind keeping those scenes unpolluted and consisting of my own interpretation.
Regardless, I think we can all agree that IT is much better than The Dark Tower movie, and we can all breathe a sigh of relief for that.


She didn't in the book Alex, but at the same time I don't really feel she was 'confident' in the movie either. It seemed to me like she was faking it and trying to be strong in spite of those undeserved rumors, but behind closed doors and when alone she appeared very much insecure and unsure of herself.
The pervy guy (if the one I'm thinking of) was the pharmacist and was in the book to a greater degree than he was in the movie. His most influential moment was just handed to someone else.
Also Matthew, I would love to know what exactly you feel is wrong with the ending that you feel it missed the mark so strongly. I agree there are flaws and agree there are some problems which I greatly dislike that they had changed from the book, but overall I think it did a fantastic job tone and overall arc wise. I'd just like to know your interpretation of it all.

You don't know Henry is dead? In the book and ms he is found wandering the sewers clearly saved by IT to do hid bidding.
The movie isn't perfect but already on IMDB has way higher marks out of ten. Stephen King much preferred it as well which is good enough for me.
Too many people are fixated by the ms as a perfect reflection of the book but I have always been hugely disappointed in it and Tim Curry. Watch both parts of the MODERN adaptation which SK is a consultant on and then you can make a fair comparison. I feel too many people are making assumptions without having the whole piece to compare with a PG made for TV mini series which was wholly inadequate.


Changing the time frame was a conscious decision, not an oversight. A good one, I because like Steve said, now the second chapter can take place in the present.
I like the mini-series for what it was, but you can only do so much on TV.

I can understand some folks getting upset with how the movie changes things and doesn't reflect the book events accurately. I commiserate with these folks, as I do with those that aren't fans of the miniseries. For me, I enjoyed every second of this movie and didn't worry about how it matched the book. In King's multiverse there is room for this version of IT to exist on another level of the Tower. I feel the movie captured the spirit and much of the intent of the novel, and that is enough for me. The characters act like themselves, which to me gives them a lot of leeway in other events.
Anyhow, cheers to all, and if the movie didn't do it for you, I recommend giving the audiobook a listen as salve for the wound. I'm listening now, and I can't believe the incredible skills of the narrator, Steven Weber.



He has a vested interest in promoting the damned thing, so he's hardly likely to say it was pants and slate it as rubbish. Besides which, from what I've read, Mister King had little or no input into its making and Andres Muchietti begged King's forgiveness for what he'd done.
The TV mini-series was made twenty-seven years ago, and if, after all that time, the best they can do is this lame, limp rag of a movie, then Lord, help us all.
"Stephen King liked it..." the masses bleat in repetition.
So, what?
Stephen King might like eating Macaroni and mice, but I'm not going to rush out any time soon, try it, and say it's delicious.
It was bum-numbing, boring and, in my opinion, a waste of time and money...Sorry, folks. Keep Chapter Two. Beep Beep, Ritchie.

Yes Mr. King is only one guy, but the guy who wrote the book LOL. If anyone had a problem with the way things were changed it would be the author. He felt they were being true to his works even if they moved it forward in time.

Yes Mr. King is only..."
He also raved about how great The Dark Tower and Under the Dome were, when they clearly weren't. As great as he is, I think it's wise to take his opinions with a pinch of salt. Having said that, I thought the It movie was great. So what if they changed some things around, it captured the spirit and feel of the book an awful lot more than the mini series, although that did have its charm.


I'm surprised it's divided opinion as much as it has. For me, I was waiting to see if they would get the first 10 minutes right. Pennywise in the storm drain has become such an iconic scene that I think to an extent the rest of the movie hinged on them getting that scene right. They nailed it, and then some.
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I can see that Matthew. There was quite a bit that was changed from the book and some of it was important to me. But if I had to compare the mini-series vs. the movie (which I don't want to do because TV and movies are different and technology has come a long way) then I would choose the movie. I think that King writes such a complex story that people can embrace so many different themes and connections it really is hard to please every fan when his work is adapted. King himself can't even satisfy everyone with his endings, lol.