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Diane wrote: "NEW BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT!
I am extremely excited to announce I've started writing my second book!
It is titled: Who Wouldn't Serve a Good God?
What is it about? It's like a Marriage Vow commitment ..."
Well done, I wish you well. And yes, God is Good.
I am extremely excited to announce I've started writing my second book!
It is titled: Who Wouldn't Serve a Good God?
What is it about? It's like a Marriage Vow commitment ..."
Well done, I wish you well. And yes, God is Good.
Diane wrote: "NEW BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT!I am extremely excited to announce I've started writing my second book!
It is titled: Who Wouldn't Serve a Good God?
What is it about? It's like a Marriage Vow commitment ..."
Congratulations, Diane, on starting your second book! Yes, God is definitely good. Good thing He's on our side. :-) Your book sounds awesome!
Issue:"Who Wouldn't Serve A Good God?"
Most of humanity. Just as God planned it. Good topic.
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2 Peter 3:9 - "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
The problem... MOST REFUSE TO CALL!
Romans 10:13 - "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Of ourselves we haven't the human faith to even begin to call upon the name of the Lord - most call upon whatever religion/worldview agrees with them... or worse: they find a warped Christianity that challenges them little and offers them the latest and greatest.
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My response: Does your position believe that the Gospel is IMPOTENT and cannot draw any person to call on the Lord?
When God-given Faith works together with the Gospel the results are God ordained.I've watched the Gospel message bounce off of those with no faith. Seems to have no impact on Satan and his hordes either. And it does funny things to charismatics and liberals. ( no Matter how well you explain it...Catholics too).
I've watched debates between the greatest Christian thinkers and evangelists - and it seems to have zero impact on their enlightened scholarly opponents.
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I've watched the Gospel message bounce off of those with no faith. Seems to have no impact on Satan and his hordes..."
God given faith = Romans 12:3
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
God given grace = Titus 2:11
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
NO ONE IS LEFT OUT!
So what is the difference? WILL!!!
Some WILL ... and some WON'T!
Romans 10:13
for “Whoever WILL call on the name of the Lord will be saved."
Don't make doctrines out of single verses Robert. Read God's word as a whole.
Do you believe Baptism magically saves people as well? Or must it be entwined with faith, belief, love, truth, and all that Jesus is?
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I have many times. Quote one verse that says Jesus' sacrifice is NOT offered to all.
Let me go first...
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
So far, in this thread, I have quoted FIVE verses and you NONE.
Who is making doctrine out of ONE (NONE) verses?
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I don't believe WATER baptism has anything to do with salvation.
Here is my book about the various baptisms in the Bible...
Baptisms - One? Many? Or Both?
Robert do you realize these words you are spouting "WILL" aren't founded in English originally? Don't build your religion on specific translations and dictionary definitions that came along 1500 years later. Use them - but be cautious. Take God's word as a whole. You definitely take it all - but selectively it seems. Be sure to include the parts you don't like as well.
God tells us to love: He also sends Ehud The left handed assassin to murder a King.
God is bigger than an English sentence or word.
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I see you still have not QUOTED even one verse. Oh well!
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My response: Of course I realize that the original word used in this verse was not English, but was Greek. Allow me to provide you with the definition of the Word God CHOSE...
will call on = Strong's G1941 - epikaleō - "ἐπικαλέομαι epikaléomai, ep-ee-kal-eh'-om-ahee; middle voice from G1909 and G2564; to entitle ; by implication, to invoke (for aid, worship, testimony, decision, etc.)"
" to permit one's self to be surnamed - to be named after someone - to call upon for one's self , in one's behalf"
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My response: That is why I ASKED YOU to quote some Bible verses. Perhaps I missed some...
Here is my previous request posted again for your convenience...
Quote one verse that says Jesus' sacrifice is NOT offered to all.
I did: I brought up Ehud The left handed Assassin. You are scholarly enough that I don't need to show the chapter and verse Buddy.
Your Strong's definition gave us many options. How do you know you chose the correct one?
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Pick any of the Strong's definitions... they all say the same thing. NONE of the definitions includes God FORCING a person into Heaven or FORCING them into hell.
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I asked for specific Scriptures. Ehud does NOT qualify as an example of...
Quote one verse that says Jesus' sacrifice is NOT offered to all. (previously asked twice now)
You're so busy arguing that you missed the point. You need to work on that Robert. How is it you have any ministry if you don't listen and learn?
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How is it that you have any ministry when you DON'T quote Scripture to support your position? How can I "learn" from you when you won't offer the requested Bible passages to "correct" my doctrine?
Quote one verse that says Jesus' sacrifice is NOT offered to all. (for the third time now...)
No reason to chat with you Robert. Waste of my time. Good bye. Keep worshiping YOUR words over meaning.
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My response: I worship the TRUE God of the Bible... you know... the Book that you NEVER QUOTE...
Quote one verse that says Jesus' sacrifice is NOT offered to all. (for the fourth time now...)
Why WON'T you provide Bible verses? (I suspect it is because there ARE NONE that support your theories.)
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I really do not understand how asking for Scripture passages is a "waste of time" ????
Quote one verse that says Jesus' sacrifice is NOT offered to all. (requested five times now...)
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Here is a link to 50+ English translations... nearly UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT ...
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en...
This thread isn't about Calvinism Robert. And the problem with you is you don't listen or converse - you're like a broken record that keeps repeating.
I love quoting scripture: but you aren't capable of reading it beyond your limited biases. (I was an Arminian for over 20 years -- then I seriously started reading the Bible as a whole. Now I fully embrace Calvinism and a God who chooses for HIS GLORY and for HIS SON'S KINGDOM.)
YES, the same God who does not let Satan repent or beg for forgiveness, The same God who will make it so that mankind will never be able to NOT worship Jesus in heaven. God will change our very nature, as He does now when He Graciously hands out Faith to HIS elect.
Robert you are reading the Bible: but you're not comprehending the meanings of the sentences - you're letting the words trap you into assuming humans are the prize. But it's Jesus.
Robert NEVER quote just a single verse to prove your theology. That is lazy and easily abused. (Cults do this all the time).1 John 2:2 - "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
That is wonderful. BUT:
1My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. 3And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. 4Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, 5but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected.
------YES, not only for the sins of the people John is immediately talking to-------- Context context context. But also for the sins of ALL future followers of Christ. YES, read the entire small book of 1 John.
21I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth. 22Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is the promise that he made to use—eternal life.
YES, the sins of the whole world THAT FOLLOW CHRIST. Robert you must actually THINK when you read scripture --- you can't just throw verses as people. Make sense of entire paragraphs, chapters, books, Testaments. Don't make doctrine out of single verses.
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And the problem with you is you don't listen or converse - you're like a broken record that keeps repeating.
I love quoting scripture: but you aren't ca..."
My response: I listen when the Bible is the source of discussion. You have NOT QUOTED nor even referenced the Bible.
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1 John 2:2 - "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours..."
In your case, it seems that you NEVER QUOTE any verses. The only reason you quoted one in this post is because I quoted it.
That is even lazier.
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My response: LOL!!!! How is...
THE WHOLE WORLD
in your eisegetical opinion translated as...
ALL future followers of Christ
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WHOLE defined: Strong's G3650 - holos - "ὅλος hólos, hol'-os; a primary word; " whole " or " all ", i.e. complete (in extent, amount, time or degree), especially (neuter) as noun or adverb:—all, altogether, every whit, + throughout, whole."
WORLD defined: Strong's G2889 - kosmos - "κόσμος kósmos, kos'-mos; orderly arrangement , i.e. decoration; by implication, the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively (morally)):—adorning, world."
Sorry Rod, but "WHOLE WORLD" does NOT accurately translate to the "FEW THAT FIND THE NARROW WAY".
But the Bible as a Whole ONLY shows the few that find the narrow way. AND Jesus spoke of the narrow way that few will find (with God's Grace of course).You don't have any friends or ministry do you? You seem to argue everyone out of your presence. That's sad.
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You don't have any friends or ministry do yo..."
Nowhere does the Bible say that Jesus ONLY offers salvation to the few.
On what authority do you get to RE-DEFINE the Words God Himself CHOSE?
Quote one verse that says Jesus' sacrifice is NOT offered to all. (requested SIX times now...)
If you are so right on this, why have you NOT QUOTED one verse as requested above?
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My response: What is SAD is that you have NO BIBLE to back up your opinions.
Nice DEFLECTION though.
Seriously Robert, do you have any ministry outside if your arguing on Goodreads? Do you share the love of Christ with atheists Muslims Buddhists or those who are hurting? Are you involved in your local church? Is your marriage and family well ministered to?I worry about you buddy. It appears I might be the only friend you got.
The Gospel goes out: sometimes to the many, sometimes to the few. God is in charge.
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My response: Yes. In 2015 the ministry God has entrusted to our care (3 volunteers) saw almost 421,000 FREE teaching file downloads.
I share the Gospel nearly every day with almost everyone I meet.
I have been in full time ministry on the streets of New York City in outreach to the homeless, troubled youth, children, soup kitchens and more.
God has allowed me to be used in 8 different countries on 3 continents.
I am an elder in our church and we just hosted a "Love and Respect Marriage Conference" two weekends ago.
How about you?
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Why do you REFUSE to support your opinions with Scripture?
I am worried about you!
Quote one verse that says Jesus' sacrifice is NOT offered to all. (requested SEVEN times now...)
Thank you for sharing Robert. I'm glad you're active.I'm just concerned that you show so little love and patience on the net.
It seems you only want to argue. You make no real friends and everyone flees from conversing with you. Or haven't you ever reflected on this?
Do you use the same brutal harsh approach to people on the street? Where is your joy and friendship evangelism? Or are you basically Jonah?
Are you gonna watch the NASCAR Daytona 500 this weekend? Jesus will be there.
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With people who call themselves "Christians" I earnestly desire to see them grow in the Lord...
...God has called us to contend for the faith... it is hard to do so, when one does not base all their dontrines on the Scriptures.
As for friendship evangelism... show me that one in the Bible.
Watch the races? No. We don't have television.
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My response: NOPE! I expect the unsaved to reject the Word of God and twist it.
I share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with the lost...
I am extremely excited to announce I've started writing my second book!
It is titled: Who Wouldn't Serve a Good God? Author-Diane Hemphill Moseley.
What is it about? It's like a Marriage Vow, "a commitment" between God and ourselves. -To have and to hold, from this day forward. For better for worse, for richer, for poorer in sickness and in health. It also says until death do us part, but if you've made the right choice you will live with him eternally.-He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever."-Revelation 21:4 (GOD'S PROMISES!)
My book will be available by late Summer of 2017
Thanks for your continued support always! God Bless!!!