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I'm a bit hesitant on The Kite Runner since four different librarians already set different page numbers for this edition, from 336 to 324 to 344 and then back to 324. None of them used 340. 336 is the number on Amazon and on all the other book sellers I could find.
Can you please try to list what each of those numbers may include?

You did not provide an ISBN for "A Thousand Splendid Suns - 424 pages" so I can't tell which edition you have.
Before I continue, I want to be certain of something. You write "I got this ISBN number from Goodreads" which worries me a little. Is the ISBN from goodreads or from the cover of the book in front of you?
A second thing I want to be certain about, in these numbers you should not include advertisements, so I want to make sure you didn't.


David already updated the edition with this ISBN, see comments #3 and #29.


For this ISBN, Worldcat does not give a page count. I went directly to the publisher and found that, for this ISBN, the page count is given as 864.

ISBN13: 9780747585893"
Worldcat states that the correct page count is 419. This matches the GR entry.

From the librarian manual: The number of pages in a book is meant to include all content except for advertisements and preview chapters for other books. Included end material may include acknowledgments, afterwords, appendices, bibliographies, glossaries, indexes, notes, and suggested discussion questions.
Introductory material paged using roman numerals is not included in the total page count.

ISBN13: 9780099587989"
Although GR has a single entry for this ISBN13, Amazon notes that this ISBN13 is actually a set of four books. Worldcat does not list any entry for the ISBN13. An internet search did not find an acceptable source for the ISBN13. No entry found on Arrow Publishing for this book either.
If you have the book that matches this ISBN13, please provide the page count using the info above.

ISBN13: 9780007466863"
This book has no page count on Worldcat, but the publisher states that the page count is 864 pages for this ISBN13. This differs greatly from the GR entry for the same ISBN13.
I made no changes in the GR entry at this time. Please verify that the additional pages contain info allowed on GR to count in the page count.

I did not mean to step on your toes, David. Since you did not reference Worldcat, I was only trying to direct this discussion to that source. I worked backwards...until I reached The Magician, which was so very different between the publisher and GR.
Hasham wrote: "Ok Brea, A Game of Thrones books specifically says 801 pages bit never mind..Do whatever you want to do. I am from UK so it depends where that website come from. if it from America then it does make sense that you couldn't find it."
Hasham, actually my name is BEA. However, the sources we use are worldwide. The publisher site that I used was https://www.harpercollins.co.uk/97800.... This is a UK publisher.


This was also my impression. As long as ISBN is reported, and page count includes the right things.

I don't know what you meant, but if I change the page count to one number based on book-in-hand and you are changing it back based on publisher website, nothing is accomplished.

I am going to ignore everything before #50 as these ISBNs were apparently incorrect.
#51:
A Clash of Kings: Done on #29, and now worldcat concurs
The Family Corleone: Done. no worldcat entry, data in GR was automatically created, preferring book-in-hand
The Godfather: Done. edition didn't exist on GR. Added it based on bookdepository entry with your pagecount. If you can scan us the cover we will add it
The Sicilian: Done. worldcat has no page count and data was automatically creates, preferring book-in-hand
Omertà: NOT Done. worldcat claims 410. please double check your ISBN and page count (420) and I will edit.
The Last Don: NOT Done. worldcat has 482. Amazon has 496, you claim 490. Please double check your ISBN and page count (92) and I will edit.

These are up to now the only ones we have with verified ISBN so if you want more, double check the ISBN on the cover and report again.

Pages at the beginning should not be counted extra.
Only the last numbered page is important, plus any pages after that that are not blank (with nothing else after it), adverts for other books or previews.
Example:
801 last page of text
blank page
5 unnumbered pages with index
blank page
1 unnumbered page acknowledgements
3 blank pages
Correct number should be: 801 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 1 = 809, i.e. up to and including the acknowledgements.
If the adverts and previews are included in the page count of the book, they should be subtracted from the total number of pages.

The policy says:
The number of pages in a book is meant to include all content except for advertisements and preview chapters for other books. Included end material may include acknowledgments, afterwords, appendices, bibliographies, glossaries, indexes, notes, and suggested discussion questions.
Introductory material paged using roman numerals is not included in the total page count.
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Page numbers should match the page numbers as listed in the book. If a book begins on page 6, for example, do not subtract from the final page count to determine the “actual” number of pages - simply list the number on the last page with countable content.
Seems pretty simple to me - simply list the number on the last page with countable content.
So either provide correct numbers according to this policy, or I'm afraid we can't use your help.

1. The ISBN on the back cover/inside
2. The number on the last page with countable content
That would be useful.
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