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message 1: by Emma (new)

Emma | 19 comments We know that there are different dimensions in both book series. The valg come from another dimension and it's mention that Amren is. Is it possible that Prythia and Erilea are in the same universe but in different dimensions? And something like the wryd key can open a gate between the 2 worlds. Maybe a chance for a cross over? ^^


message 2: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) It's true; Sarah confirmed it


message 3: by Emma (new)

Emma | 19 comments Oh cool, thanks :-)


message 4: by Meg (new)

Meg Baldwin (megwin) | 9 comments when did she confirm it? is there an interview vid i can watch? ((:


message 5: by Taylor (new)

Taylor (taylorkoziak) | 4 comments a wyrd key could take you to the ACOTAR world, but there is still no word on what Amren is, and i highly doubt there is ever going to be an official crossover.


Laura✧˚ · . (shelby_) | 132 comments Yeah also I've read a theory that said Dorian is feysand's child. I think maybe the wyrds keys could open some door to the acotar world


message 7: by Sejal (new)

Sejal Diane wrote: "It's true; Sarah confirmed it"

Wow, really? Where did she confirm it? That's really interesting!!


message 8: by Sejal (new)

Sejal But it says that the Queen of Adarlan has red hair??? Unless Feyre died and Rhysand married someone else? I don't think Dorian is Feysand's son (I really hope not!!).


message 9: by Sejal (new)

Sejal ^yeah that's what I thought.


message 10: by Emma (new)

Emma | 19 comments Plus the kings an older looking man than Rhys, and he's immortal and doesn't age. I think we're safe!


message 11: by Emma (new)

Emma | 19 comments Maybe Amren is Valg though !
We'll know in the next book apparently. Sarah said she told one reader and "they freaked"


message 12: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments I don't remember what the cauldron was made of or how it was made.. but maybe it is made of wyrdstone or something and that's why it can do the things it does.


message 13: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments remember how apparently the cauldron was in pieces or something? maybe TOG comes first and they leave the pieces apart and then it goes to acotar where they are in pieces and then the cauldron ??? idk this is far fetched I'm just thinking... I need to reread acotar and acomaf


message 14: by Sejal (new)

Sejal Maybe Amren is a witch? She's too awesome to be valg lol.


message 15: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) I think she's a dragon. I mean, she collects shiny things...


message 16: by Ashley (new)

Ashley | 15 comments I feel like in ACOTAR 4 there might be a cross-over between the 2 series. I don't know why... It's just a feeling or a hope or both.


message 17: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) Firedrakes are according to google "fiery dragons"


message 18: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) I have no idea. Maybe there are ice dragons?


message 19: by Sejal (new)

Sejal Diane wrote: "Firedrakes are according to google "fiery dragons""

oooohhhh. That would be amazing!


message 20: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments woah. ICE DRAGONS. badass..


message 21: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments but are dragons something that would drink blood? I bet she's like have dragon half chubacabra.... lol


message 22: by kate♥︎ (new)

kate♥︎ | 4 comments I actually really like the theory that Amren is valg, I mean, since it's a different universe and everything maybe being valg holds a different meaning there or maybeeee (this is a little far fetched but I'm still throwing it out there) maybe they did finally find a way to cross humans and valg (or some other creature and the valg) and maybe Amren is the result of that (or a descendant of the result) hmm.

No matter of her decsendance though, I do feel like Maas is going to intertwine the two universes somehow, maybe just a hint of the fact that the other exists, but I'm thinking there's going to be something like that for sure.


message 23: by Sejal (new)

Sejal Or maybe the King of Hybern is actually Erawan. Haha no that's way too farfetched.


message 24: by Gillian (new)

Gillian (Heartoffire) | 152 comments the king of hybern could be valg.. maybe jurians valg. A valg just possessing his body..


message 25: by Emma (new)

Emma | 19 comments See the reason I was thinking valg for Amren was because when she was fighting, it said she was inflicting nightmares on to her enemies. The valg princes can do that!


message 26: by Victoria (last edited Jan 09, 2017 05:08PM) (new)

Victoria Sarah J. Maas does say that ACOTAR and TOG worlds are in the same megaverse and can be accessed by opening wyrdgates.
Proof:
http://worldofsarahjmaas.com/post/118...


message 27: by Novelist Dienne (last edited Jan 16, 2017 02:21PM) (new)

Novelist Dienne (novelistdienne) | 7 comments Gillian wrote: "I don't remember what the cauldron was made of or how it was made.. but maybe it is made of wyrdstone or something and that's why it can do the things it does."

Maybe the book that Feyre was supposed to keep apart was the wyrds that Aelin had trouble reading or at least the same language.


message 28: by Novelist Dienne (new)

Novelist Dienne (novelistdienne) | 7 comments Emma wrote: "See the reason I was thinking valg for Amren was because when she was fighting, it said she was inflicting nightmares on to her enemies. The valg princes can do that!"

Holy s*** thanks for pointing that out. To be honest I would so happy if Amren was a valg, not just any valg but a princess valg. If she is then it would make her (to me) more redeemable than Aelin since Amren actually has a heart compared to the other valgs.


message 29: by Novelist Dienne (new)

Novelist Dienne (novelistdienne) | 7 comments Sejal wrote: "Or maybe the King of Hybern is actually Erawan. Haha no that's way too farfetched."

Mind Blown.


message 30: by Novelist Dienne (new)

Novelist Dienne (novelistdienne) | 7 comments If everything is all connected I'm kinda thinking that some of the key dead fae from TOG are some how relatlaed to Feyre and Rhysand or even better Miryam and Drakon. Speaking of Miryam and Drakon I desperately want to know more about them and if there's a small chance to see them throughout the ACOTAR series.


message 31: by Emma (new)

Emma | 19 comments Oh yeah the book could be written in Wyrd marks!
I hear Miryam and Drakon will be featured in some way in ACOWAR


message 32: by Ashley (last edited Feb 04, 2017 09:36PM) (new)

Ashley | 2 comments In ACOMAF when Feyre and Amren are trying to get the book from Tarquin it says "Amren's blazing palm flattened against the door...swirls and whorls radiating out through as if they were a language all her own." Pretty sure those were wyrdmarks... Also I don't think Amren is a with or Valg, which that's what I hoped she was, but her eyes are silver and witch/valg eyes are gold. Buuuuut when Aeling gets possessed by Deanna her eyes are silver... Soooo Amren may be a goddess

Also Feyre's description of the bone carver is a little boy with dark hair and blue eyes... WHAT IF IT'S ACTUALLY AN IMAGE OF YOUNG DORIAN


message 33: by Laura✧˚ · . (new)

Laura✧˚ · . (shelby_) | 132 comments That's a theory I think I posted bc it's very popular but someone said that Dorian couln't be feysand's kid idk


message 34: by Emma (new)

Emma | 19 comments Ashley you have blown my mind :-D

Yeah Dorian can't be their kid, we know who his father is already.


message 35: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) But do we really? It's said that he doesn't look like his father. Dun dun DUN


message 36: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) I would assume that Dorian is adopted because he doesn't look like his "parents" the way Hollin does. So what if somehow Feyre and Rhysand lost him or something?


message 37: by Blythe (new)

Blythe (blythe_alexandra) | 69 comments Remember in the very beginning of ACOTAR Feyre goes into town to sell the wolf pelt. She sells it to that bounty hunter what if that was Manon! Before Erwan gathered the witches to fight for him?

She


message 38: by Riya (new)

Riya Even if Dorian doesn't look like his parents he is their son because otherwise he wouldn't have been able to use his powers when the king banned it all. I think the disimilarity in their appearance is just another way to show that Dorian is the not the man his father was.
BUT..It could be possible that maybe Rhys is his son??? Like when the wyrdgates were being destroyed maybe Dorian ended up in prythian and somehow managed to become high lord of the night court. We're told that TOG and ACOTAR are connected but not if they're in the same timeline.So maybe TOG occurs before ACOTAR and Dorian finds a new life and a mate, has 2 beautiful children including our little baby bat Rhys!!


message 39: by Diane (new)

Diane (mystifiedswift) You're going a bit far there. How would Dorian become High Fae? I think that maybe ToG takes place before ACOTAR and Rhysand might be a descendant of Dorian but not like his son


message 40: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmadixon11) | 23 comments I know this is far fetched, but what if Amren was actually Aelin. Like, It's not as if Aelin wouldnt die her hair, and when Rhys says that he knows that Amren could destroy the world or whatever, like maybe its Aelin and she is going to unleash her fiery wraith. I know this is incredibly unlikely but its fun to think about.
It would also explain why Amren can read the book thing that is supposedly written in Wyrdmarks.
And what if she is only in Prythian because Maeve pushed her through a Wyrdgate.
And thats why she wants to get back so badly, so she can be reunited with Rowan.
Again, I know its impossible, but its fun to think about.


message 41: by Κάτια (new)

Κάτια Κανδ. | 16 comments Perhaps Amren is a goddess, traped like the other gods in Erilea, not able to return to their world.. It would explain the silver eyes and great powers


message 42: by Kellieॐ (new)

Kellieॐ (kelayye) | 2 comments Possible crossover book name: A Court of Glass and Shadows???? Just thinking about it made me so excited


message 43: by Diana (last edited May 02, 2017 08:23PM) (new)

Diana (themy) | 3 comments Fae Nesta have some death magic power, the same as Lorcan. Cassian physical description and personality reminds me of Lorcan as well.
I think they're related, Cassian and Nesta could be Lorcan's grandparents.


message 44: by Soula (new)

Soula | 38 comments Ashley wrote: "I feel like in ACOTAR 4 there might be a cross-over between the 2 series. I don't know why... It's just a feeling or a hope or both."
That would be so frickin cool!


message 45: by Soula (new)

Soula | 38 comments Sejal wrote: "But it says that the Queen of Adarlan has red hair??? Unless Feyre died and Rhysand married someone else? I don't think Dorian is Feysand's son (I really hope not!!)."
I don't think so either specifically because Dorian doesn't possess any Fey lineage (at least from what I remember).


message 46: by Soula (new)

Soula | 38 comments Victoria wrote: "Sarah J. Maas does say that ACOTAR and TOG worlds are in the same megaverse and can be accessed by opening wyrdgates.
Proof:
http://worldofsarahjmaas.com/post/118......"

So, THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting this link! The connection of the worlds wasn't the only thing revealed....She also said that there can be multiple mates for everyone. Which means that Azriel and Elain could be together as mate (possibly if a bond locks into place). {I really ship them. I hope it cannons!}


message 47: by Natalia (new)

Natalia (ravenandthehawk) | 387 comments I'm not sure if anyone remembers butbyheres a part in ACOWAR (not going to mention what part because spoilers) when someone says "Three Faced Goddess" just like in ToG there is a three Faced goddess. I think that's a hint that the world's are actually conected in some way.


message 48: by Ginny (new)

Ginny Weasley | 3 comments In koa ( sorry for spoilers) when aelin travels through the worlds the fae couple that help her are feysand... it has been confirmed. This shows that there is a way between the worlds and they are in the same wyrd universe!!!


message 49: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (red-panda) | 1 comments That’s what I thought! Nice to know that’s it’s confirmed.


message 50: by Ginny (new)

Ginny Weasley | 3 comments cool


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