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Mark Anderss I just discovered Irvine Welsh last month and have since read all of his books (love 'em all). I am currentlyreading "Crime" after which I will have read everything of his.
I have no idea of similar authors though and would love any suggestions?

The only similar books I have found are "American Psycho" by Brett Easton Ellis and "Requiem for a Dream" and "Last Exit to Brooklyn" by Hubert Selby Jr.


Gary I would add JG Ballard and Iain M Banks to your reading list: Crash and Atrocity Exhibition by Ballard, and the Wasp Factory and Crow Road by Banks.

I would also suggest House of Leaves. The narrator's story would be right up your alley, and the book is an experience. This is not a book you should ever try to read on ebook. It will ruin your experience.


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Mark Anderss I will give those a try, Thanks for taking the time to help me out!


Gary Glad I could help.


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I just finished reading Trainspotting and it's a great book and a brave read. A friend of mine suggested that my next read should be Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess. Here's a wiki link to it https://tinyurl.com/ja8uyf8. Is this something that would interest you?


Granger Davis Palahniuk has a similar anarchic streak. Just spiffballing. "Jesus' Son" by Denis Johnson has a similar dark humor, where substance abuse is concerned.


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Mark wrote: "I just discovered Irvine Welsh last month and have since read all of his books (love 'em all). I am currentlyreading "Crime" after which I will have read everything of his.
I have no idea of simila..."

Welsh is known to write within the genre of literature known as "transgressive fiction." Basically, it can be defined by themes and meanings dictated by characters who feel confined by the norms and expectations of contemporary society and go to extreme lengths to engage in the profane to achieve some kind of new consciousness of his or her surroundings. Welsh's characters use drugs. Chuck Palahniuk starts fight clubs to combat the empty acquisitiveness of a consumer society. Bret Easton Ellis writes about wealthy upper class elites that desperately try to fit into their stratospheric status quo society but are plagued with psychological deficits like psychopathy, narcissism, and sadomasochistic desires. Here are some other authors: Hubert Selby Jr., Craig Clevenger, Charles Bukowski, Douglas Coupland, Ryu Murakami, Luke Rhinehart, R.D. Ronald, Michel Houellebecq, Henry Miller, Poppy Z. Brite, William S. Burroughs...those are the main ones I am familiar with. Just look up "transgressive fiction" on Google and you'll find what you're looking for.


Bbhyped Welsh earlier novels (and for me, best, such as Trainspotting, Porno, Glue...) also have a very fast writing tone (lot of dialogues, funny situations in normal day activities, not sticking to the traditional narrative, so on).

I also find these features, although used in a different manner, in Bret Easton Ellis (Rules of Atraction, for instances) and Henry Miller.

Later novels from Welsh such as Crime I don't think had that so much, probably the reason why I hated it.


David Not sure if his work would be considered 'transgressive', but found some of Will Self's novels wonderfully bizarre, dark, and challenging. Particularly enjoyed 'Great Apes'.


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Mark I hate Irvine Welsh. I know people love him but the Scottish slang language is just too much.... I gave my copy away. I nearly chucked it away and thought about giving it to charity. Life's too short!!!


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Jed I'm a big, big fan of TRAINSPOTTINg.. less of his other books.. where it seems he became more an ordinary 'author'.
Anyway books with the 'same-ish' grit:

Clockwork Orange. -Burgess (only this book not other Burghess)
Wanderers - Richard Price(only this book not other Price).


Stephen McCarthy I read Trainspotting years ago and spent some time thinking in the dialect which was a bit disconcerting, even for an Irish guy.

I would agree with most of the recommended authors above but may I add Roddy Doyle to the list, especially the early novels such as The Van and The Snapper. Not quite as gritty as Welsh but still operating in the same fringes of society.


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Jed Stephen wrote: "I read Trainspotting years ago and spent some time thinking in the dialect which was a bit disconcerting, even for an Irish guy.

I would agree with most of the recommended authors above but may I ..."


I've read the Commitments - same spirit.
But more than the fringes of society - I'm more concerned with the VISCERAL in your FACE writing - the smells like REAL -

If you have any other suggestions - am all ears.
I'm craving sh*t like this


Stephen McCarthy Jed,

I've had a scan through my back catalogue of reads and not found any more candidates. I'll keep an eye out for you.

I use the publishing site www.smashwords.com which has new and unpublished authors. They have a genre called 'Transgressional Fiction' which may be of interest. They have a free sample download facility which is useful.

I have two of my own books on the site but I doubt they would not be in that style.

Enjoy this merry adventure
S


Clarkey I found trainspotting and it’s sequel porno to be great reads, I felt a strong connection to Welsh’s social realism, probably from growing up in Scotland myself, and each character I could relate to someone I had encountered in my past.

I would recommend Charles Bukowski, in particular :

Women,
Post Office and
Factotum.

Enjoy .


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Jed Stephen wrote: "Jed,

I've had a scan through my back catalogue of reads and not found any more candidates. I'll keep an eye out for you.

I use the publishing site www.smashwords.com which has new and unpublished..."

Thanks for keeping an eye out.
And for the smashwords tip.I'll look into it.

What are the title of your books?


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Jed Christopher wrote: "I found trainspotting and it’s sequel porno to be great reads, I felt a strong connection to Welsh’s social realism, probably from growing up in Scotland myself, and each character I could relate t..."
Thanks, somehow Buwosky isn't my thing...BUT if you have any other suggestion, please inform me, even if your in doubt.
Cause- I'm jonesing over here


Stephen McCarthy Jed wrote: "Stephen wrote: "Jed,

I've had a scan through my back catalogue of reads and not found any more candidates. I'll keep an eye out for you.

I use the publishing site www.smashwords.com which has new..."

No worries Jed, my books are called 'Searching for Ahimsa' and 'Battered' but, as I said, maybe not as edgy as you seek.

Enjoy the search


Stephen McCarthy Jed wrote: "Stephen wrote: "Jed,

I've had a scan through my back catalogue of reads and not found any more candidates. I'll keep an eye out for you.

I use the publishing site www.smashwords.com which has new..."


Jed,

Just a 'heads-up', the Smashwords site has an end of year sale starting on the 25th and running until the 1st.
A lot of us authors put our books in the sale for major discounts, if there was something that caught your interest it may be a good time to take a chance.

Merry Christmas
Stephen


Louise Hutton-Bailey A slightly different suggestion, and perhaps a "period" Trainspotting, would be Brighton Rock by Graham Greene.


Stephen McCarthy Jed wrote: "Stephen wrote: "Jed,

I've had a scan through my back catalogue of reads and not found any more candidates. I'll keep an eye out for you.

I use the publishing site www.smashwords.com which has new..."


Jed,

Still no joy with other books but if you are into film of a similar subject matter you may enjoy 'Hyena' (2014) a police corruption story set in London's underworld.
It is pretty gruesome in parts but depicts an underworld where drug taking is the norm and life is cheap.

Stephen


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