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Lord of the Rings > Could need some help for my future bachelor thesis :)

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message 1: by Rafael (new)

Rafael da Silva (morfindel) | 47 comments Welcome, Marina! What a good thesis you chose. Congratulations! I cannot help you about your need but I hope that someone can.


message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

Hi!!
Sorry I can't help much, I'm 14 and not very good at English so I don't know what you're writing but it sounds cool
If you're comparing something from lotr and real life and analysing it you could do something about the places in middle earth, for example I know Rohan was based on Scandinavian places and Vikings
Sorry I can't help more but good luck!!


message 3: by Mike (new)

Mike | 6 comments It would seem that if your program is Philology then you should write about language. Tolkien was known for his ideas about the esthetics of language. Languages sound beautiful or ugly and levels in between. He build this into LOTR. The Black Speech is harsh and ugly. The Elves cannot bear to hear it. It is noxious and painful to them. Sindarin and Quenya are beautiful sounding and pleasant to hear. Certain phrases can instill confidence in the speaker: "aiya Eärendil elenion ancalima!" Frodo calls on the Phial of Galadriel and Eärendil to shine out. The words also instill doubt into the mind of Shelob. The role of language is a foundation aspect of LOTR. The place to start is probably Tolkien's Biography and Letters. I would also get his essay English and Welsh. He once stated that Middle Earth was created to that there would be a place in which "Ellen sila lumenn omentielvo" would be an everyday greeting. He stated that the languages came first, then the stories.


message 4: by Mike (new)

Mike | 6 comments Hello. It is interesting that your department is called "Philology". In Tolkien's day, English departments were divided into "Literature" and "Language", called Lit and Lang. CS Lewis was in Lit; Tolkien was in Lang. Over the 20th Century, Literature studies prevailed and very little English language is studied in English departments in the UK and US. Tolkien was a philologist and chair of Anglo-Saxon studies. This meant that he studied the ancient languages. Today this area is occasionally studied in departments of linguistics. Oxford also had a chair in the English department for the study of ancient Welsh. Tolkien was a very organic writer and anything that sparked his interest was molded into his stories. His religion was a big influence, in particular the concept of "the machine", the coercion of Nature by the artifice of man. Christopher Tolkien presents this concept in detail in the interview below, but I have never read an essay on the topic.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIrxK...)


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