City of Heavenly Fire question

I dont know would you rather have Jace, Magnus, Simon, Maia, Isabelle, Alec dead, The Clave and Shadowhunter kind overthrown, Clary being forced to date and be Sebastian's queen, and Clary having to kill her own mother and Luke?

Do you not think the gang deserves a happy ending?

Not every last book has to be Mockingjay/Allegiant.

I agree. I feel like there should have been a greater loss. Almost everyone we care about survived. The Simon sacrifice part was great, but then she just found a way to cancel that out. Don't get me wrong, I was happy there was a loophole, but it gave the sacrifice less meaning.

I loved the ending. I thought it fit the series perfectly and kept it open for more stories in the world without them being about the main characters in these book.

I thought the ending was perfect.

In my opinion, the end was only partly unrealistic. I didn't think team good would survive hell. Also I thought that Simone would never get his memories back. But gladly Cassandra found a solution for it. I really love those characters and generally hate bad endings, for this we have the reality.

I was also expecting that there was going to be a bigger war (not that it wasn't big already), with more deaths and one of the main characters dying (though I kept wishing none of them will). I think COG was more exciting in terms of battle - I don't know, maybe it's just me - than COHF. Yes, Simon's sacrifice (and JONATHAN's death) was heartbreaking and I was glad there was a loophole too, but think about it, he didn't remember everything, all those little details and experiences; that's sort of a loss too. But I agree with most, they deserve a happy ending. They've been through a LOT starting from COB, all of these happened to them in just a year (2007-2008)! It just seemed too long because obviously it's 2014 now. :) But in their timeline, EVERYTHING happened in just a year. Imagine how physically and emotionally tired they all were. ;) There were a lot of deaths from the start of COHF; all those institutions, at the Citadel, the war in Idris itself.. you can't count those as insignificant just because they weren't main characters. Cassie was right when she said lives will be lost; perhaps we just expected too much, like one of Clace, Sizzy, Malec and other main characters dying. :)

It was nice for once to have a happy ending. Would you be asking for a happier ending if Cassandra had ended it differently?

Yeah it was kind of happy nobody important died at least one one of Jace, Magnus, Simon, Maia,
Isabelle, Alec or even the new girl Emily ought to have died nor dat that I wanted them dead but still. That would have made it an epic ending

I actually felt okay with this ending. But with Jem, the faeries, and the fact that Emma and Jules are parabati, I'm ready to start the extreme countdown to TDA.

IDGAF THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH HELL AND BACK THEY DESERVE THEY'RE HAPPY ENDING OKAY? OKAY.

I don't understand why people would want any of the main characters to die. Don't you think they've went through enough? The deaths were mostly heartbreaking. When Jordan died Maia had wanted to break up with him. Julian had to kill his own father. Even if he was an Endarkened One. I don't think it was too happy at all.

I agree it was a little too happy. Maybe I am just a sucker for morbid endings because they seem to have more meaning, or maybe I believed that Clare would kill off characters we knew well and loved. I did like Jordan, but him dying wasn't too upsetting, just a little surprising. Raphael's death I saw coming as soon as he refused to follow Sebastian. Everyone knows you don't refuse an offer of Sebastian's and live. Mr. Blackthorn's death only held significance for me because it affected the future characters of the Dark Artifices.

In truth, I expected Luke and Jocelyn to die after their wedding; Magnus and Alec to die while saving the Nephilim together; and Clary and Sebastian dying-- Sebastian because Clary kills him and she dies some way in connetion to this. To elaborate on this, I thought the fight between Sebastian and Team Good was a little boring. This will probably sound awful, but I kind of wanted and was expecting Clary to actually be with Sebastian for a while, do some regretful things, and have Jace struggling to save her. This is even going to sound more awful, but I thought it would be a better story if Clary died after Jace had found her, it being only too late after she kills Sebastian.

I have mixed feelings for my horrific expectations and Clare's sunnier reality. A part of me is super relieved that none of the characters I listed above are dead, while another part of me is cranky about it. I feel as if the deaths of those I listed above would have given more meaning. Again, maybe I have just watched too many war movies.

P.S, I felt that Clockwork Princess focused too much on the romance.

That and Simon practically died. Sure he lived but he couldn't remember anyone! To Clary and the rest, that makes them feel like he is dead until they take action, and even that was a chance, he could have (and should have) ran away and tried to find the nearest mental hospital to admit her but he luckily did not.
As for the rest, I felt like Sebastian's and Jonathan's ends were a little rushed, but realistic.

I think that the ending could have been more dramatic. It was a bit too happy. I thought that someone a bit more loved was going to die. I mean- Jordan was important-ish but his death wasn't that sad.
I would have appreciated the ending more if it hadn't been hyped up to be so dramatic.
I didn't really connect with the characters either. I don't know, the book seemed too long also.
But I'm not that attached to the series, so yeah.

Yes, all the MAIN characters lived. But realistically think about clary. She has seen so much......too much for her age. It will be tough for her in the future getting over the memories. She has been in a hellish demension for angels sake.

I'm still gathering my thoughts on this book. I don't know. Maybe. I was expecting more epic battle scenes and, though I hate it when characters die, more dramatic death scenes, you know? Most of the people who died were side characters and, while saddening for me to see some of them go, the book wasn't as heartwrenching as I expected. I did cry a boat load of tears, however, when Simon lost his memory. Gutted me big time.

All of being the above being said, I agree heavily with @Misaki. The writing of this book, as usual, was incredibly spot on and utterly captivating and poetic. I felt everything . Everything either made my heart swell with ecstasy or hurt in despair.

The best word to describe Cassie Clare's endings is, yes, bittersweet. All of the characters grew up so much by the end that they were almost unrecognizable but still themselves somehow. They lost some people they loved, lost some things about themselves that they will never get back, and will forever carry the dark things they've seen in their hearts with them, as these things make them stronger but also weigh them down. Sebastian died, but that was a given. What I didn't expect was a glimpse into the eyes of the brother Clary could have had. The fact that Cassie gave Jonathan to us for a brief time and then snatched him away was definitely not too happy. I also agree with the fact that Tessa and Magnus taking mortal lovers added a bittersweet element. I don't know, just some thoughts. Still picking up the pieces of my brain from this book.

I don't know... I think her endings are kind of bittersweet. Clockwork Princess definitely was, and City of Heavenly Fire has left a lot of problems. Hehe... But those problems WILL (they better) be fixed in The Dark Artifices!

Cassandra Clare had said that there would be six deaths..The three of them would be main characters...Besides Jordan,Raphael,Sebastian(one main character) and Amatis who else died?None?I almost lose my shit with Magnus.I thought he was gonna die!I was bawling..It ended pretty well.I liked it!It was a very fan read..But as the last book I expected it better...Clockwork princess was perfect and I had high hopes for it but it was good.

Considering the fact that both Magnus and Tessa ended up with mortal lovers who will die one day, it might not seem a 'perfect happy ending' for them in long term thinking. But they wholly deserved it. Haven't they done enough?

Cassandra is usually good with endings. Clockwork princess and now this. I think everyone deserved a happy ending

I would have been a lot less bothered about the ending if it hadn't been hyped for 9 months that it wa going to be catastrophic. The whole 'who will survive?' Campaign was pointless and I expected a lot more of it.

I am sick of series not ending happily. That's how they are supposed to end

NO! I thought it was wonderful!!!!!! And it definitely wasn't without pain, and it's not perfect either. All of the deaths were so sad! Raphael... If you haven't read The Bane Chronicles, you should! You would feel so much more for him. And Jonathan? I hate Sebastian, but I cried for who Jonathan could have been. Amatis? POOR LUKE. Mark and Helen? NO. NO NO NO. AND Tessa and Magnus are going to outlive their partners. That's not good. AT ALL -.- I really wish they had been able to find a way to become mortal. D8 And their agreement with the fairies??? WAY too harsh. Those stupid Clave people. This is going to come back and bite them in the butt. HARD.

So was it too happy? Absolutely not. But was it happy? YES. And thank goodness for that! I just wouldn't have been able to take it if it was sad!!!!!! I think the ending was beautiful. I loved this book. A great end to one of my most favorite series. <3

Nope. I loved it... I'm sorry I hate when endings are too sad. I liked it. I wanted a happy ending especially after the whole Divergent ending.

You all wanting greater death there was a bittersweet ending in this all. I felt their emotions as if it were my own. I saw the pain, the agony, and hatred. I felt their own losses like a blow to the heart. So yes they all deserve some form of happiness rather than none of it. Shadowhunter for life!!!

i think it was sappy. seriously? why cant even one main character die? is it not in the nature of jace and clary to sacrifice themselves? there are authors running around issuing death warrant to their main characters *cough veronica roth cough* and clare wrapped everything in a neat pink bow! jordan and raphael were dispensable!!! even the romance was sappy. and dont get me started on the incest thing which ppl conveniently forget.