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message 1: by Anita (new)

Anita Pomerantz | 9296 comments Please vote for the tag you would most like to read for January at the following link:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8FSMXJH

You may click on the answer choices in the survey to see a listing of books that fit each tag.

Remember, you may cast up to a total of 10 participation points for your choice. Everyone gets one vote for free so please vote even if you don't have any participation points!

You can see how many participation points you currently have in the spreadsheet below.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...

Happy voting! Please cast your votes by 12 pm EST on 012/19. I am shortening the voting period a bit in case we need a re-vote as described below. Headed out of town on the 27th so need to have it all wrapped up by 12/26.

Note: If no one choice receives more than 50% of the vote, people who chose the least popular choice will be asked to recast their votes for one of the remaining two options.


message 2: by Joi (new)

Joi (missjoious) | 3970 comments Great categories! Voted, but I'd be happy with all three!

Yay for starting 2017 with a (hopefully popular) tag!


message 3: by Booknblues (new)

Booknblues | 12126 comments Voted


message 4: by Sushicat (new)

Sushicat | 843 comments Voted


message 5: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) Voted


message 6: by ~*Kim*~ (new)

~*Kim*~ (greenclovers75) Voted


message 7: by Amy (new)

Amy | 12949 comments Voted! You know I'm not a fan of dystopia. I won't announce what I'm reading if my chosen category wins. But anyone who knows me or has been following me even a little bit will have no surprise. Plus it's on the new PBT 100.


message 8: by Regina Lindsey (new)

Regina Lindsey | 1005 comments HUH?!


message 9: by Regina Lindsey (last edited Dec 14, 2016 05:02PM) (new)

Regina Lindsey | 1005 comments can I bribe anyone to spend your points?! We've never had one of those categories!!!!!!


message 10: by Susie (new)

Susie I would be happy with any so I only used one point. Great choices!

Amy, I'm crossing my fingers and toes that it is The Road that you are referring to!


message 11: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8433 comments Voted


message 12: by Linda C (new)

Linda C (libladynylindac) | 1789 comments Voted. All good.


message 13: by Booknblues (new)

Booknblues | 12126 comments If I were a betting person, I'd bet that Regina was referring to the foreign category.


message 14: by Ladyslott (new)

Ladyslott | 1880 comments Booknblues wrote: "If I were a betting person, I'd bet that Regina was referring to the foreign category."

I'm with her ^


message 15: by Karin (new)

Karin | 9243 comments Three excellent categories, so I only needed my free vote.


message 16: by Fyre.Katz (new)

Fyre.Katz (fyrekatz) voted!


message 17: by Amy (new)

Amy | 12949 comments Nope, not the Road. Finally with the foreign literature category I could read 100 Years of Solitude. I mention this desire often. I think for a few, that would be "Aah - of course!" So since I disfavor dystopia, I threw my points there! I did notice quickly on male point of view that The Outsiders was on that list. Funny, I had picked that title out as a possibility to interest my almost 14-year-old. Had planned to order it from the library. So how surprised was high, when he brought it home from school. They are reading it in English. And seemingly he likes it and is interested so far, which makes me extremely happy. So I ordered it myself to follow the story to help with reading comp. so while I feel like I have a few for foreign literature, I have at least one for the other two categories. I'm thinking if dystopia wins to go for queen of the Tearling. If I like it I will read the sequel too.


message 18: by Susie (new)

Susie I totally misread what you meant! Sorry!


message 19: by Denizen (new)

Denizen (den13) | 1138 comments Voted


message 20: by Regina Lindsey (new)

Regina Lindsey | 1005 comments Booknblues wrote: "If I were a betting person, I'd bet that Regina was referring to the foreign category."

Not sure what would give you that idea ;-)

A quick look at the foreign category has books like The Fault in Our Stars. HUH?


message 21: by Booknblues (new)

Booknblues | 12126 comments Regina wrote: "A quick look at the foreign category has books like The Fault in Our Stars. HUH?"

I noticed a few that didn't seem to belong. That being said I can guarantee I have some on my TBR that I really want to read.


message 22: by Anita (new)

Anita Pomerantz | 9296 comments I have to say the tagging here is a bit questionable. Judgement needs to be applied for sure.


message 23: by Sara (new)

Sara (mootastic1) | 770 comments I had similar thoughts initially but for someone like say Susie or Cin, The Fault in Our Stars is foreign literature. Perhaps if it wins we may need to refine the rule that it is written by someone not from your nation of residence.


message 24: by Ladyslott (new)

Ladyslott | 1880 comments Sara wrote: "I had similar thoughts initially but for someone like say Susie or Cin, The Fault in Our Stars is foreign literature. Perhaps if it wins we may need to refine the rule that it is written by someone..."

Good point Sara.


message 25: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11719 comments Technically, I suppose that's correct, but me, I tend to think of "foreign" as "overseas". As much as I often find Canadian equivalents for things American, we're so close, that I have a hard time thinking of the US as foreign.

Of course, there are plenty of people in plenty of other countries, who would legitimately think of American as foreign.

Though, I wouldn't read a book from the US and call it foreign (I'll find something else), I do think that's probably a good rule for many other PBT members!


message 26: by Jenni Elyse (last edited Dec 16, 2016 09:24AM) (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) I think of foreign literature more as books originally written in another language than my native one. So, books like The Little Prince or War and Peace is what I think of when someone says foreign literature.


message 27: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11719 comments I think the word I was looking for, rather than "close" is that in Canada, we are so "influenced" by the US that most things American do not seem "foreign" to me. Now I want to look up the word!


message 28: by LibraryCin (last edited Dec 15, 2016 09:33PM) (new)

LibraryCin | 11719 comments Ok, from Merriam Webster (www.m-w.com):



Definition of foreign

1
: situated outside a place or country; especially : situated outside one's own country

2
: born in, belonging to, or characteristic of some place or country other than the one under consideration

3
: of, relating to, or proceeding from some other person or material thing than the one under consideration

4
: alien in character : not connected or pertinent

5
: related to or dealing with other nations

6
a : occurring in an abnormal situation in the living body and often introduced from outside (a foreign body lodged in the esophagus) b : not recognized by the immune system as part of the self (foreign proteins)

7
: not being within the jurisdiction of a political unit (as a state)


message 29: by Jenni Elyse (last edited Dec 16, 2016 09:25AM) (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) So, I guess sci if works as long as it's not on Earth, lol. Dune it is! I'm due for a reread. ;)


message 30: by Sushicat (last edited Dec 15, 2016 11:15PM) (new)

Sushicat | 843 comments I was thinking that for me, most (like 99%) of what I read fits under that tag. But in the spirit of stretching myself I would go for something Asian or African or Latin American.


message 31: by Sushicat (new)

Sushicat | 843 comments Jenni Elyse wrote: "So, I guess sci if works as long as its not on Earth, lol. Dune it is! I'm due for a reread. ;)"

I would consider the classification to be about where the author comes from rather than the place in which the story plays. If you're looking for scifi that takes you off earth and is also foreign lit I would recommend The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu.


message 32: by Anita (new)

Anita Pomerantz | 9296 comments Great point, Sara. My US centric self totally forgot that American literature is foreign to a whole lot of people here!!!


message 33: by Susie (new)

Susie I had in my mind books that were not originally written in English. It hadn't crossed my mind that an American or English novel would be foreign to me! To challenge myself I think I'll go with my original definition if that tag gets through.


message 34: by Anita (new)

Anita Pomerantz | 9296 comments Initially, I was thinking translated books, but there are lots of books set in India, written by Indian authors, and I would consider those foreign literature. And I would consider British literature foreign too if pressed. Interesting quandry!


message 35: by Regina Lindsey (new)

Regina Lindsey | 1005 comments Interesting how we all have our connotation of what the term means. My immediate reaction was an author/setting other than the residence of the reader and provides insight to country's experience.


message 36: by Sara (last edited Dec 16, 2016 04:22AM) (new)

Sara (mootastic1) | 770 comments To be clear, for myself reading foreign lit, I am jnlikely to pick something up be a Canadian or even English author and call it good as I find them too similar to the American experience. I need it to inform me of a different cultural experience outside my own. So for example Trainspotting I would consider foreign literature as it is written not only in dialect but the whole book is about the unique Scottish experience, same with something like The God of Small Things - despite being written in very clear English, the Indian setting sets it apart. And anything written in a foreign language and later translated.

But at its most general yes, an American book is technically foreign lit to anyone not from the US. I thought it was necessary to put it out there once it clicked as I was looking at the list.


message 37: by Anita (new)

Anita Pomerantz | 9296 comments Regina wrote: "Interesting how we all have our connotation of what the term means. My immediate reaction was an author/setting other than the residence of the reader and provides insight to country's experience."

This was also my initial reaction. I have a huge line-up if this is the tag that is chosen . . .


message 38: by Denizen (new)

Denizen (den13) | 1138 comments Regina wrote: "Booknblues wrote: "If I were a betting person, I'd bet that Regina was referring to the foreign category."

Not sure what would give you that idea ;-)

A quick look at the foreign category has book..."


My personal view of international literature is fiction that doesn't hit the US/Canadian/British mainstream. I would add Australia to the mix but GR has made me realize that there are considerable areas where the literature doesn't overlap. I tend to consider international fiction works that have to be translated into my language and/or come from countries whose literature isn't widely read beyond their border. Lots of books fitting this description on my TBR to the point of being somewhat overwhelming if it's the selection.


message 39: by Amy (new)

Amy | 12949 comments From what I have noticed the tag never turns out to be the one most people are talking about. I'm often shocked and surprised to see that what is voted for most strongly appears to be the one least discussed. We'll see if that holds true.


message 40: by Regina Lindsey (new)

Regina Lindsey | 1005 comments Anita wrote: "Regina wrote: "Interesting how we all have our connotation of what the term means. My immediate reaction was an author/setting other than the residence of the reader and provides insight to country..."

Me too! Of course, I think ya'll know I adore non-western writers. SO, yeah, I'm crossing my fingers.


message 41: by Regina Lindsey (new)

Regina Lindsey | 1005 comments Sara wrote: "To be clear, for myself reading foreign lit, I am jnlikely to pick something up be a Canadian or even English author and call it good as I find them too similar to the American experience. I need i..."

The cultural experience is what I look for as well.


message 42: by Amy (new)

Amy | 12949 comments One other thing to mention - when I read posts from Susie and Cindy, I try to imagine the accents and hear them in their own voices. When I know of some other ages or part of the country, sometimes I have a voice in mind. Come to think of it, I have a voice in mind for quite a few to many of you. Isn't that an interesting thought that the foreign read idea brings up and out.


message 43: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) Sushicat wrote: "Jenni Elyse wrote: "So, I guess sci if works as long as its not on Earth, lol. Dune it is! I'm due for a reread. ;)"

I would consider the classification to be about where the author comes from rat..."


I was just kidding. I was just going off the definition LibraryCin posted and trying to be funny. ;)


message 44: by Anita (new)

Anita Pomerantz | 9296 comments Jenni Elyse wrote: "Sushicat wrote: "Jenni Elyse wrote: "So, I guess sci if works as long as its not on Earth, lol. Dune it is! I'm due for a reread. ;)"

I would consider the classification to be about where the auth..."


LOL, I'm obviously gullible and took you totally seriously.


message 45: by Elise (new)

Elise (ellinou) I was wondering about foreign too. I have a couple of Quebec books to read that would be foreign for all of you (I don't think anybody else in the group is from Quebec?) but not to me. That said, one of them is a collection of short stories edited in Quebec but written by Canadian Native Americans/Inuits, so a foreign culture from the same country. That might be interesting.


message 46: by Sushicat (new)

Sushicat | 843 comments Amy wrote: "One other thing to mention - when I read posts from Susie and Cindy, I try to imagine the accents and hear them in their own voices. When I know of some other ages or part of the country, sometimes..."

Jenni Elyse wrote: "Sushicat wrote: "Jenni Elyse wrote: "...I was just kidding. ..."

When I read a book I always have a voice in mind. I sometimes think that part of not liking a book comes from choosing the wrong voice for it. Something which is especially tricky when humor is involved. I think humor is one of the most difficult things to get across properly, particularly across cultural borders.


message 47: by Sushicat (new)

Sushicat | 843 comments Amy wrote: "From what I have noticed the tag never turns out to be the one most people are talking about. I'm often shocked and surprised to see that what is voted for most strongly appears to be the one least..."

I'm really looking forward to reading for dystopia ;-).


message 48: by Jenni Elyse (last edited Dec 16, 2016 09:26AM) (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) Sushicat wrote: "Amy wrote: "One other thing to mention - when I read posts from Susie and Cindy, I try to imagine the accents and hear them in their own voices. When I know of some other ages or part of the countr..."

I agree. I also think humor is sometimes hard to get across in written form because you can't see body language. So, I understand that I was taken at my word. People don't know me well enough yet to know when I'm joking. Heck, my husband doesn't always get when I'm joking, lol.

PS--Thanks for the recommendation of The Three-Body Problem. I'll look into it. :)

Anita wrote: "Jenni Elyse wrote: "Sushicat wrote: "Jenni Elyse wrote: "So, I guess sci if works as long as its not on Earth, lol. Dune it is! I'm due for a reread. ;)"

I would consider the classification to be ..."


Ha! I'm very gullible as well, especially when it comes to things said online. :)


message 49: by Joi (new)

Joi (missjoious) | 3970 comments Amy wrote: "From what I have noticed the tag never turns out to be the one most people are talking about. I'm often shocked and surprised to see that what is voted for most strongly appears to be the one least..."

I've noticed that too. Last month we all discussed gothic- and it ended up not being chosen. I picked up and started reading Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children at the end of Nov because I thought that gothic would win- haha. We didn't really discuss short stories until it was revealed to be the chosen tag.


message 50: by Anita (new)

Anita Pomerantz | 9296 comments Joi wrote: "Amy wrote: "From what I have noticed the tag never turns out to be the one most people are talking about. I'm often shocked and surprised to see that what is voted for most strongly appears to be t..."

Lol, I just think some tags are more interesting to discuss because they require some interpretation . . .and the conversation just gets rolling. After short story was picked, we ended up talking about what THAT meant . . .


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