Challenge Instructions

[Lisette]

Good idea Ariel to read 5 unique books plus the pick-a-shelf selection.

[Cecile]

I don't read fast enough for that. I'm trying to pick books that are in other challenges and crossover where I can, as often as I can.

[Ariel]

In all honesty, I don't read fast enough to do it either!

[Sue]

Is there a minimum number of pages for books to be used in this challenge?

Thanks.

[Tien]

Sue wrote: "Is there a minimum number of pages for books to be used in this challenge?

Thanks."

not at all, Sue.

[Bea]

Sue, that is one of the things I love about Pick-a-Shelf group. Most of our challenges do not have a minimum number of pages required for a book...as a result, I have expanded my reading to include some wonderful children's books. What a joy!

[Sue]

Thanks, Tien and Bea. Yes, I also read books for all ages, so it is good news that I can use the childrens' books as well.

[Karin]

Bea wrote: "Sue, that is one of the things I love about Pick-a-Shelf group. Most of our challenges do not have a minimum number of pages required for a book...as a result, I have expanded my reading to include..."

Which reminds me, I am trying to find the rules for Book Hunt about that very thing--is there a page minumum?

[Karin]

One more question. I have one book for January sitting in my pile here that could crossover in a number of places. I want to show you what I mean and see if the a. the object will work or not, and if the main character's name can be used both there and as a word in the title.

The Secret Lives of Baba Segi's Wives by Lola Shoneyin

I'd like to know if I can use this for all of these S ones:

a. Shelf 1: S - Shelfari wish list
f. First word in title - Secret
g. any word in title- Segi's
i. author's last name - Shoneyin
j. item on cover: silhouette
l. name of character Baba Segi

[Bea]

Karin wrote: "Which reminds me, I am trying to find the rules for Book Hunt about that very thing--is there a page minumum?"

I don't believe there is...but Tien can rule definitively.

[Bea]

Karin wrote: "I'd like to know if I can use this for all of these S ones:

a. Shelf 1: S - Shelfari wish list
f. First word in title - Secret
g. any word in title- Segi's
i. author's last name - Shoneyin
j. item on cover: silhouette
l. name of character Baba Segi"

Looks good to me.

[Karin]

Bea wrote: "Karin wrote: "I'd like to know if I can use this for all of these S ones:

a. Shelf 1: S - Shelfari wish list
f. First word in title - Secret
g. any word in title- Segi's
i. author's last name - Sh..."
Thanks! That was the easy part since I saw all the S's on the cover. The rest will take more time and consideration :).

[Tien]

If we're silent about pages in the rules then usually there's no limitation.

[Karin]

Tien wrote: "If we're silent about pages in the rules then usually there's no limitation."

Thanks, I thought so.

[♞ Pat]

I'm a Sassafrass stalker, so I came over here to see what she was talking about in the Monthly Shelf thread.

And, as usual, I'm signing up for this - it looks like fun, and I hope I don't get too totally confused about it.

[Tien]

Lol
Good to have you on board, Pat. Let me know if you have any Qs. And if you want me to look over your January plan, do post it to the January thread :)

[♞ Pat]

Tien wrote: "Lol
Good to have you on board, Pat. Let me know if you have any Qs. And if you want me to look over your January plan, do post it to the January thread :)"

The only thing I'm not sure of is how to post the "shelves" ... for instance:

Small Great Things has been shelved under social issues six times. Do I link to that page or does it have to be a shelf from "top shelves?"

AND -

Once I've run the entire list through one letter, that book can't be used for another letter for that month, correct? That's crossover, right?

[Cecile]

Bea wrote: "Karin wrote: "Which reminds me, I am trying to find the rules for Book Hunt about that very thing--is there a page minumum?"

I don't believe there is...but Tien can rule definitively."

Is there a 2017 version of Book Hunt?

[Bea]

Cecile wrote: "Bea wrote: "Karin wrote: "Which reminds me, I am trying to find the rules for Book Hunt about that very thing--is there a page minumum?"

I don't believe there is...but Tien can rule definitively."..."

No, Cecile. That game will not be continuing.

[Bea]

♞ Pat wrote: "The only thing I'm not sure of is how to post the "shelves" ... for instance:

Small Great Things has been shelved under social issues six times. Do I link to that page or does it have to be a shelf from "top shelves?"

Pat, you are allowed to use any shelf that matches the monthly letter. So..S = Social Issues is fine. You can link to the shelf itself like Social Issues.

AND -

Once I've run the entire list through one letter, that book can't be used for another letter for that month, correct? That's crossover, right?"

There are five distinct shelves...and 12 categories. The books chosen for the shelves are used to meet the tasks of the various categories.

Crossover is using a book from January to satisfy a February category, right Tien?

[♞ Pat]

Got it. After I started a plan, I went back and re-read and re-read the rules and really studied the examples and I'm pretty sure I've got it.

I'm getting ready to post a January plan for checking...

[Dee]

Tien - for the series name - if the series has an initial in it - does that count...i.e. can I use I for January for Blood Shot - which is part of the V.I. Warshawski series? (she goes by V.I in the book as well, but figure can't spin that for character name)

[Tien]

Dee wrote: "Tien - for the series name - if the series has an initial in it - does that count...i.e. can I use I for January for Blood Shot - which is part of the V.I. Warshawski series? (she goes..."

yep that's fine

[Tien]

♞ Pat wrote: "Once I've run the entire list through one letter, that book can't be used for another letter for that month, correct? That's crossover, right? "

Crossover just means using a book for a number of categories instead of just 1.

The book may be used for any letter of that month or any other month as long as it's not been read yet.

The only restriction is that you can only use 1 book for 1 shelf whatever the shelf's initials.

[Dee]

Tien wrote: "Dee wrote: "Tien - for the series name - if the series has an initial in it - does that count...i.e. can I use I for January for Blood Shot - which is part of the V.I. Warshawski serie..."

sweet! 3 categories and 1 shelf for 1 book :)

[Bea]

Dee wrote: "sweet! 3 categories and 1 shelf for 1 book :) "

Yep, at least 3 categories for that book. (I count 4 - g, h, i, and k.)

[Dee]

apparently I failed at spelling, because I totally missed the whole author last name P...haha! :)

[Bea]

Dee wrote: "apparently I failed at spelling, because I totally missed the whole author last name P...haha! :)"

Just trying to help you out.

[Dee]

I'm laughing at myself :) not dissing your help!

[Sue]

To clarify about timelines, is this correct:

* All books that we use for the challenge must be started no sooner than Jan 1st, 2017.
* A book started in January 2017 but not finished until after the March letters are posted could be used for January, February or March letters? (but can only be used for any given category one time.) Am I understanding this correctly?

Thanks.

[Bea]

Dee wrote: "I'm laughing at myself :) not dissing your help!"

I understand...and appreciate the laughter.

[Bea]

Sue wrote: "To clarify about timelines, is this correct:

* All books that we use for the challenge must be started no sooner than Jan 1st, 2017."

Correct.

[Sue]

Thank you, Bea!

[Sue]

Question about item on cover...

I am reading this book:
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court

which shows the Round Table on the cover.
I understand per the rules that I could not just use a "generic" round table for 'R'. However in this case it identifies a specific unique item.
So, checking if this will work or not.

Thanks!

[Tien]

Sue wrote: "Question about item on cover...

I am reading this book:
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court

which shows the ..."

Good question, Sue! I did a quick search on Google on the term, 'round table', and the first search result is a reference to King Arthur's Round Table so I'll accept this as NOT a generic item and you can use the phrase for item category.

[Sue]

Tien wrote: "... Good question, Sue! I did a quick search on Google on the term, 'round table', and the first search result is a reference to King Arthur's Round Table so I'll accept this as NOT a generic item and you can use the phrase for item category.
"

Thanks, Tien!

[Susan]

Just to be sure I'm clear on the instructions, now that February's list is out:
"No crossover on shelves" means that if we've claimed a book on ANY shelf in January, we can't claim it for any shelf in February or later months, right?

[Bea]

Susan, if you have not yet read the January book, you can use it for any category in February...but, I don't think you can use if for a shelf. Tien will need to answer that.

[Tien]

Bea is right, Susan.

"No crossover on shelves" means that any one book can only be used for one (1) shelf.

I think you've got it, Susan, except that you may used the word, 'claimed', which we read to mean that you've read it & have claimed completion however the rule is any one book for only 1 shelf.

[Amy]

Are we able to read books allocated for the February shelves prior to February 1?

[Tien]

Amy wrote: "Are we able to read books allocated for the February shelves prior to February 1?"

"You may read immediately upon announcement of Letters"

so, YES :)

[Amy]

Tien wrote: "Amy wrote: "Are we able to read books allocated for the February shelves prior to February 1?"

"You may read immediately upon announcement of Letters"

so, YES :)"

Thanks! Looked for the rule but missed it. Too many hours and late nights watching tennis...

[Marie (UK)]

So for february can i use books that i have read in January

[Bea]

Marie wrote: "So for february can i use books that i have read in January"

No, if you have already read the books before the letters were announced.

[Marie (UK)]

OK

[Karin]

Tien wrote: "rossovers:
Books may crossover:

1. Between months and categories but cannot crossover on same category (that is book for Jan cover can't crossover with Oct cover but can crossover with Jan author's first name, Feb shelf, Oct Subtitle, etc). And just to clarify, no crossovers between shelves

2. Book may only be used to crossover if it has not been read (that is if a book for Jan shelf can crossover with March cover but you've read it in Feb, before March letters have been announced, then you cannot use this book; in other words, no backdating).."

Therefore, even though I haven't finished my plan yet and posted it, I can include Republic Of Dirt : A Return to Woefield Farm for both months because I started it after you posted it, even though I have already finished it in January, correct? For Jan it was for the i shelf, Interlibrary Loan, and any word in the subtitle (Return for R), but in February it's for any word in the title (Dirt for the letter D).

[Tien]

Karin wrote: "Therefore, even though I haven't finished my plan yet and posted it, I can include Republic Of Dirt : A Return to Woefield Farm for both months because I started it after you posted it, even though I have already finished it in January, correct? For Jan it was for the i shelf, Interlibrary Loan, and any word in the subtitle (Return for R), but in February it's for any word in the title (Dirt for the letter D). "

I am assuming you meant that you've started reading the book prior to the 15th (when we announced Feb letters) and have finished reading this book some time after the 15th?

If so, yes, you can use the book to crossover between Jan & Feb for those categories you mentioned.

[Karin]

Tien wrote: "I am assuming you meant that you've started reading the book prior to the 15th (when we announced Feb letters) and have finished reading this book some time after the 15th?

If so, yes, you can use the book to crossover between Jan & Feb for those categories you mentioned. ."

I mean that I both started and finished it in January after you posted the letters. So, I not only finished it after you posted them, but started it after, although I hadn't seen them yet. But I don't see where in the rules I have to start it before you post the next month's letters, just that it has to be read (finished) after. I did post it in my January plan well before all of that, since I posted it before starting any of the January books.

Is this not going to work, then? Did I have to start reading it before the 15th to crossover?

I hope this will be simpler and easier than the book hunt that I spent so much time on.

[Tien]

Tien wrote: "I am assuming you meant that you've started reading the book prior to the 15th (when we announced Feb letters) and have finished reading this book some time after the 15th?"

I only said this because that's the impression I got from reading your earlier post and that's what you were asking; whether it's okay to have started the book prior to Feb letters being posted to crossover with Jan & Feb categories. And it is.

It's also okay that you've started & finished after the Feb letters are posted.

You don't have to finish January categories in January or even in February. You can finish it in December, if you like, and crossover with a December category as long as you haven't finish reading said book until after Dec letters are posted.

Basically, if a book has been read PRIOR to the month's letters are posted then you can NOT use that book for that month or any of subsequent months. ~I hope this helps?

[Karin]

Tien wrote: "Tien wrote: "I am assuming you meant that you've started reading the book prior to the 15th (when we announced Feb letters) and have finished reading this book some time after the 15th?"

I only sa..."
YES!