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Jul 31, 2009 01:14PM
SOMEBODY!!! WATCH MY DAMN VIDEO! IT'S CLEVER AND TIMELY.
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Like you could separate those two, Gus. Pshaw!
Gus wrote: "who was more important to the Stones, Mick or Keith, I'd be impressed (By the way, the answer's Keith)"Yes.
RA, just because you can find people who don't like Nirvana doesn't make them unimportant. I don't like the Ramones, and I bet I can ask the next 10 people I see who the Ramones are and they couldn't tell me, does that make them umimportant?
But somehow, I doubt you could walk up to 10 random strangers and not find that the majority could say they did know who Nirvana was, regardless of whether or not they liked them unless you were in an old folks home or elementary school.
Is "pivotal" synonymous with "important" to you, Heather?(This is just...too...easy...I can't help myself...)
I'm clearly being ignored here. I shall boycott this thread until someone watches MY VIDEO and reports back.
Randomanthony wrote: "Is "pivotal" synonymous with "important" to you, Heather?(This is just...too...easy...I can't help myself...)"
Well, seeing as the definition of pivotal = of vital or critical importance, yes.
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Tempted to post the "Sugar Sugar" video and trick Heidi into watching it, but she's been nice to me lately
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According to Sally's poll, I'm winning the debate :)LMAO.
I watched your video, Heidi, and enjoyed the "Horse With No Name" jokes. And the Guns 'n Roses joke, too. :)
I know, Sally, but I agreed that they were "pivotal", and in turn, one cannot logically assume I argued Nirvana was "unimportant". In fact, Heather, I challenge you to defend the implication that I described Nirvana as "unimportant".
I love how MY THREAD got hijacked by a my-dick-is-bigger-than-your-dick debate.
Yes, you see? That's where we agree, Heather. I think they were important. Pivotal, even. But not "the first band...teen malaise..." etc...and I'm questionable on "voice of the generation". So maybe we agree more than we thought.
But that still means I win.
Possesion is nine tenths or something like that.
I hate vanilla ice cream.Anyone?
Gus wrote: "I love how MY THREAD got hijacked by a my-dick-is-bigger-than-your-dick debate."I think I would win that contest, unless Heather is a lot different than I assumed.
Jackie "the Librarian" wrote: "I watched your video, Heidi, and enjoyed the "Horse With No Name" jokes. And the Guns 'n Roses joke, too. :)":) That was fast!
Sally wrote: "Hold on, Heidi. Repost it over in "viewing pleasure" and I'll be there in a sec."Will do.
Randomanthony wrote: "Gus wrote: "I love how MY THREAD got hijacked by a my-dick-is-bigger-than-your-dick debate."I think I would win that contest, unless Heather is a lot different than I assumed.
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True, but I hope that I have bigger boobs :)
hugs HeatherYou were a worthy foe. Everyone else doesn't understand. I look forward to hijacking Gus's threads with you in the future.
I'm only kidding. I don't mind the my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours debate, although it's pretty moot.
You see, my dick IS really bigger...
You see, my dick IS really bigger...
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Gus wrote: "I'm only kidding. I don't mind the my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours debate, although it's pretty moot.You see, my dick IS really bigger..."
Bigger than mine?
Randomanthony wrote: "Yes, you see? That's where we agree, Heather. I think they were important. Pivotal, even. But not "the first band...teen malaise..." etc...and I'm questionable on "voice of the generation". ..."
You can be questionable on whether or not they are a voice of my generation all you want, doesn't make you right, or me wrong.
And Nirvana was the voice of teen malaise in the 90's and were pivotal, important, insert synonym here to the grunge movement.
True, but I hope that I have bigger boobs :)
You win! You win!
Oh sure post a flickr pic that I can't see.
Randomanthony wrote: "hugs HeatherYou were a worthy foe. Everyone else doesn't understand. I look forward to hijacking Gus's threads with you in the future."
Agreed *hunts for another of Gus's threads*
Randomanthony wrote: "True, but I hope that I have bigger boobs :)
You win! You win!
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Oh, I love it! Those words are glorious!
It's a picture of Richard Nixon with Elvis, Larry. You're not missing anything. :)
Jackie "the Librarian" wrote: "http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1246/7...Here's the link, Larry."
Thanks but it won't help. My network block flickr. *shrugs*
Sorry, Larry. :(I've been thinking about zeitgeist, during my walk. And I think, you don't capture it. It LANDS on you, or your band. The world sees something in you it craves, you are the flavor of the month.
And for as long as the phase lasts, the whole world's focus turns on you, demanding you to perform for it, scrutinizing your every move, criticizing you when you don't meet expectations. It is a HUGE burden!
It landed on the Beatles, made their concerts a joke (they couldn't even hear themselves play over all the screaming) and eventually broke them up (along with drugs and personal life stuff).
It landed on Dylan, and he's been trying to escape it ever since. He didn't want to be the voice of the folk generation, he wanted to do his own thing, and play rock and roll. And then, try out some country music. And convert to Christianity. And back. And do different versions of his songs at concerts. And all these evasions just made the world even more fascinated with him!
Kurt Cobain didn't want the zeitgeist either, and didn't have Dylan's orneriness and inner strength to deal with it.
Some folks crave it, and pursue it, like Madonna. You have to be an egomaniac to enjoy that kind of attention, I think.
That is a very interesting thought, Jackie. Thank you. I will enjoy rolling this around in my head for the rest of the night.
I can't believe I walked away from my computer and missed out on this whole discussion... so even though it seems to be over and nobody probably cares, I'm throwing in my two cents anyway...Nirvana was not the head of the goose. They didn't spear head the grunge movement. They were just the most popular group to come out of that Seattle scene. From everything I've read and heard from people who were on the scene, the biggest band was Soundgarden. That was they band everyone admired, that was the band everyone thought was going to make it big. But for whatever reason Nirvana caught on. Maybe it's because they "were the voice of a generation" but I hope not because that was my generation and they did speak for me.
When most people who where there talk about the Seattle scene they don't talk about one band, they talk about all the bands, about the movement. It was really a very eclectic scene. Some other bands that are talked about as being important to the grunge movement... Mother Love Bone (someone earlier said Temple Of The Dog, but that was just a one time collection of guys from others bands in tribute to the lead singer of Mother Love Bone), Green River, Tad, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, and of course Pearl Jam.
So my question is if Nirvana was the voice of a generation and the most important band to come out of the grunge scene why did Pearl Jam's 10 sell more copies then Nevermind and Vs. sell more then In Utero? Is there a more concrete objective gauge of popularity then actual record sales? I'm not saying record sales means better music, but if you're going to say someone is the voice of a generation I would think they would have to have sold the most albums.
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Also, I prefer "Jeremy" to "Nevermind."
Pearl Jam bore me.That is all.
But I like Wingbeaver's questions.
Oh, one more thing...the Soundgarden/Nirvana dynamic sounds very similar to the Husker Du/Replacements dynamic in Minneapolis.
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The Beatles had albums of wonderful art. The Stones had songs that were o.k.I don't like Dickens
I am a republican
I'm glad we have at least one Republican, Michelle. I agree with the Republicans on some issues.:)
I really prefer to not side. Unless you do your vote really doesn't count for much except to make a statement
Sally wrote: "Oooooh, I forgot about Soundgarden. Tres bien.Also, I prefer "Jeremy" to "Nevermind.""
I think everybody has forgotten about Soundgarden. Which is kind of sad. I wasn't a fan, but they were great musicians. To go back to previous comments I made in this thread, in the future they may be considered the Kinks of the grunge movement.
I also want to say, in my opinion, hard rock is ALL about teen angst. From The Who to Zeppelin to the Sex Pistols to Metallica to Nirvana to Pearl Jam to Green Day to My Chemical Romance. If its done right its all speaking for its respective generation.
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Sally wrote: "When I find out people liked the book Eat Pray Love I like them a little bit less."Me, too.
Wingedbeaver wrote: "I also want to say, in my opinion, hard rock is ALL about teen angst."
Then how do you explain Black Sabbath?
Then how do you explain Black Sabbath?
I'm broken hearted that Sally, Amber and LG like me a little bit less because I liked Eat, Pray, Love. I gave it 4 stars.
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