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message 2: by Melanie (last edited Nov 22, 2016 08:36AM) (new)

Melanie (mvalente89) | 2198 comments I don't know if this is a series by GR standards, so I'll leave for another librarian, but here is the info I found on the publisher's site which has a list of all the books in the collection.

Description from publisher's site:
Our popular pocket books The Izvor Collection presents all the main themes found in the talks of Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov - 42 pocket books available

http://www.prosveta-usa.com/izvor-col...


Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments I hope someone like Rivka reviews this thread. Not allowing this as a series would be like stating that the Mozart Köchel catalog is a publisher's imprint…


message 4: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Do these books have common characters? If not, what makes them a series?

And a list of Mozart's works would not be a series by Goodreads standards.


message 5: by lethe (last edited Dec 02, 2016 10:16AM) (new)

lethe | 16364 comments Collections are (almost) never series in the Goodreads sense of the word. This looks like a publisher's series to me, i.e. not a series according to Goodreads. (@rivka these are not fiction books, more like essays.)


Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments In this case I urge a closer inspection that I believe will conclude that it is indeed warranted. This author is exclusively published by his own organization, as far as I can tell.


Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments These works all seem to be expounding various aspects of cabbalistic exegesis, so, yes, common characteristics indeed.


message 8: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16364 comments A common theme is not enough for being a series.


Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments Of course it is. Especially if it's a matter of non-fiction literature. How much more focused can you get than a series of books all discussing various aspects of Christian Cabbalah exegesis?


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Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments And as for Rivka's comment that the Köchel series wouldn't be accepted as a Goodreads series, not even if Köchel also was the sole publisher of Mozart recordings?

(I hope I will not be met by the argument that Goodreads is for books, not music, as the parallels should be blindingly obvious…)

Just to emphasize the fact, each and every one of these editions has the "collection" number printed in or in the vicinity of the colophon.


message 11: by lethe (last edited Dec 02, 2016 10:53AM) (new)

lethe | 16364 comments Halvor wrote: "And as for Rivka's comment that the Köchel series wouldn't be accepted as a Goodreads series, not even if Köchel also was the sole publisher of Mozart recordings?"

Nope. Mozart's recordings are not a series (or parts of one composition).

Halvor wrote: "each and every one of these editions has the "collection" number printed in or in the vicinity of the colophon. "

As I said, "collection" is usually a sure sign of a non-series according to GR standards.

To give a few examples: I have a 3-volume edition of Samuel Pepys' diary: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
The three volumes are a series, but they are numbered as #53, 54 and 55 in Everyman's Library. That doesn't mean that Everyman's Library is a series.

The volumes of the collected works of an author are also often numbered, but collected works are not a series.


message 12: by Halvor (Raknes) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments Nope. Mozart's recordings are not a series (or parts of one composition).

Sigh! So what makes The Hardy Boys a series?

"collection" is usually

Right, and I am arguing that we are currently NOT in the "usually" territory.

And the reference to the Everyman's Library is spurious, that is unless all of it consists of Samuel Pepy's diary, which they don't, if I read you correctly.

And as for the comparison with "collected works" editions those are not the original publication. The Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov appear all to have been published exclusively in this "Izvor collection" Or in the "Complete Works Collection" which might be a later series, but I don't know if it duplicates the Izvor collection, my impression is that it doesn't.


message 13: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Halvor wrote: "So what makes The Hardy Boys a series?"

They all have characters in common. They are all set in the same "universe" (mostly in the same town, actually).


message 14: by Halvor (Raknes) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments Well, the same goes for any series of caballah exegesis…


message 15: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
What characters would those be?


message 16: by Halvor (Raknes) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments You mean no non-fiction works are eligible for series collation?

Corresponding to "characters" would be a series of abstract spiritual concepts that are treated from various angles throughout the corpus.


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