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Why can't we download the In Death series books?
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Mara
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Nov 11, 2016 08:44AM
Does anyone know why the download libraries do not have the IN DEATH books for download? It would be nice if all of the IN DEATH books were available for library patrons to read with eReaders or listen to on mp3's.
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Do you mean overdrive?My library has the In Death books on overdrive. The search is super wonky (for my library) and only pulls up the most recent by author name. But search by title and they come up, even if in an omnibus edition which it didn't used to do. (Overdrive recently had an update.)
And one reason your library may not have them in ebook/audio format for download is ebooks/audio downloads are more expensive than traditional books for libraries to buy a license to use. That license can run out after X number of checkouts (depends on the publishing house if there's a limited number of checkouts).
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I meant all of the download libraries--Overdrive, Hoopla, Axis 360, and some newer ones.
My libraries (Free Library of Philadelphia and Houston Public Library) both have all of the ebooks (not audiobooks though) through Overdrive.
Overdrive in my city only has a handful of the In Death ebooks; with the exception of the latest ID release they are all older books in the series.
My library has the ebooks through Overdrive, a handful of the audios on hoopla or oneclick - can't remember which.Scribd has the audios available.
If your library doesn't carry something you can usually request it. Our library fills a good number of my requests (which are considerable).
Overdrive no longer carries the audios - which is why the libraries can't get them on Overdrive anymore. some contract thing. My library had them on Overdrive before about a year ago.
Scribd is not a free download site. You have to pay for the download.It just strikes me as odd, as popular as the IN DEATH SERIES is, you would think that Overdrive, Hoopla, Axis 360, and many of the new audiobook download sites would have for down. But as usual, it probably has to do with money and publishers probably ask way too much money for the download sites to carry the books. eBook or audio.
In all honesty, I find that Nora Roberts/J.D. Robb books are not on many of the download sites. eBook or audiobook.
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Overdrive carries all of the eBooks. Each individual library system decides what books they will make available. My two libraries are my resource for the eBooks. You may want to check with your librarian (send an email) for clarity. I've done that before on other issues.
Mara wrote: "Scribd is not a free download site. You have to pay for the download.It just strikes me as odd, as popular as the IN DEATH SERIES is, you would think that Overdrive, Hoopla, Axis 360, and many of..."
Yep - Scribd is a subscription service that is true. Still cheaper than buying the audios.
Overdrive no longer carries the audios as I mentioned - due to contracts with publishers that had changed. However, they do carry the ebooks, and hoopla I believe carries at least some of the audiobooks. Library, by library determines which items they actually have patrons get access to - they don't automatically get everything. So, request from your library audio versions of the in death books and see if they can get some of them at least.
EDIT: Oneclick has some of them. I don't know about Axis and others.
Jonetta,As popular as Nora Roberts, I just find it odd that her publishers aren't more accommodating.
As always it always boils down to the PUBLISHERS.
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Yeah, right now they're gaming the system by limiting the digital sales and inflating print so they can say demand for digital is fading. You'd think they'd learn after the price fixing debacle.
Jonetta wrote: "Mara, I remember reading some time ago that all of the audiobooks had been pulled from digital library systems by the publisher. You'll also recall that Nora has changed publishers. Overdrive car..."
I don't know where to post this but I just found out the name of the book being released in Sept. It's Secrets in Death being released on Sept 5, 2017.
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https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Jonetta wrote: "Someone posted the info earlier and we added it to the book list. Thanks, though! We'd rather know than not. https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/..."
Thank you. Now I know where to look. Excited to always hear about a new J.D. Robb book!!!
I heard that audiobook sales were surpassing ebook sales in the last few years. So what's going to take place of downloading?
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I have ebooks, but I not that crazy about them. I know they are more space saving and convenient, but I'd rather hold a real book.I love audiobooks because I can listen to them while I do other things.
I have so many real books that I won't have room to stay much longer.Ebooks are all about instant gratification - I don't have to go to the library, I can download it at 2:00 in the morning, and when the lending period is over they just go right back and I don't get the mega fines i do with real books lol
90% of my reading is done with audio though - I don't have time for sitting down and reading real OR ebooks...
Indeed frustrating! I decided to go back and re-listen "in death" from the start and - NOT ONE is at my library for AUDIO. Crap on Robb's new publisher! Fine. I'll just keep moving.
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I think it has something to do with Amazon owning both Audible.com and Audiobookstand/Brilliance Audio.
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My point above was to make certain the new publisher isn't blamed for this as it preceded their contract.
It maybe a combination of things.When Nora started writing no audiobooks were just catching on, and downloading sites, Ebooks, or iPhone /iPod were just a thought in someone's mind.
No one foresaw how popular electronic publishing and digital downloading 20 or so years after Nora started writing.
Now I recall I was getting CD's from my library - downloading & transferring...that was cumbersome.
I just requested the "Playaway" preloaded audiobook from my local library ... I may resort to eyeball reading as well for my 2nd go around. I'm curious to see if I think as highly of the series after experiencing Jacqueline Carey's Namah series or Robin Hobb (who is now my fave author - greatly surpassing Harry P in fantasy).
Because AMAZON who owns Audible.com wants us to pay for them or previous publishers are holding on to download rights.
Now I know why the text-to-speech does not work like it use to. The text-to-speech function of the kindle fire does not work will it stop and start randomly so to read the book you have to buy the audio version.
There is a trick with Kindle. You can sometimes get a discount on the audiobook if you have the Kindle already downloaded, even if it's through Overdrive.
I have also received a discount from Amazon if I purchase the e-book and the audiobook at the same time.
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They recently discontinued using Overdrive rentals for the Audible discounts.
Ahh.... that explains the Immortal in Death. Very sneaky... publisher or Nora, you think?
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I say it's really stupid for Amazon or publishers not to allow Overdrive, Axis 360, or Hoopla or other download services to download the IN DEATH series. I have a limited budget, so I am not always able to get the next copy in line for our next read.To be honest, I don't think that many books by Nora are available for download on Overdrive, Axis 360, or Hoopla.
Amazon or other download pay services seem to think that everyone has money to throw around when it comes to Nora's or J. D.'s book.
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Mara wrote: "I say it's really stupid for Amazon or publishers not to allow Overdrive, Axis 360, or Hoopla or other download services to download the IN DEATH series. I have a limited budget, so I am not always..."Everyone is frustrated by the absence of In Death available in audio from the libraries, but as far as the digital ebooks are concerned, I guess it depends on the library in question, as I believe Jonetta stated above. I belong to 6 public libraries, and JD Robb's In Death Series are available at all of them, although only 3 have ALL her books, except for the unreleased books which I have on hold for when they *are* released. All of the In Death Series are available to me. The Brooklyn Public Library, which costs $50/year for non NY residents, has 53 In Death digital books available (NO audio). The Fairfax County Public Library which costs $25/year for non VA residents, has 46 In Death digital book titles available, also NO audio. Honestly, if you love this series, maybe consider paying the $25 for Fairfax County and read all you want! Hope this helps you. It's not a bad workaround.
Mara wrote: "I say it's really stupid for Amazon or publishers not to allow Overdrive, Axis 360, or Hoopla or other download services to download the IN DEATH series. I have a limited budget, so I am not always..."Amazon has no say in what audiobooks are available through Overdrive. The publisher has the rights and is the one to decide whether or not a library can purchase the audiobook for their patrons. I don't think the author has a say either.
Randi wrote: "Mara wrote: "I say it's really stupid for Amazon or publishers not to allow Overdrive, Axis 360, or Hoopla or other download services to download the IN DEATH series. I have a limited budget, so I ..."It's unclear to me -- are AUDIO versions of IN DEATH books available via any of your librarys?
It is the publishers who decide who can download their books not the companies that do it
Roberta wrote: "Randi wrote: "Mara wrote: "I say it's really stupid for Amazon or publishers not to allow Overdrive, Axis 360, or Hoopla or other download services to download the IN DEATH series. I have a limited..."My library has 17 *cd* audio books of Nora Roberts/J.D. Robb, but 0 digital audio books.
My friends library has 0 audio cd's.
My backup library has 23 nora roberts and 20 j.d. robb audio cd's.
My backup backup library has 43 nora roberts and 54 j.d. robb audio cd's.
Roberta wrote: "Randi wrote: "Mara wrote: "I say it's really stupid for Amazon or publishers not to allow Overdrive, Axis 360, or Hoopla or other download services to download the IN DEATH series. I have a limited..."Roberta, none of the libraries I belong to offer JD Robb's books in audio. Interestingly, even Nora Roberts books are limited to like 5 audio books, compared to 392 digital books, so it is frustrating.
In comparison, Michael Connolly has 58 digital (for Kindle) books, and 43 for audio.
I'm so in love with audiobooks & so accustomed to the ease of downloading -for free -in seconds! I guess I can get 10 CDs--NO!. Not gonna do that. I'd like to know who I should DISLIKE for this so I can send them a little note:)
Roberta wrote: "I'm so in love with audiobooks & so accustomed to the ease of downloading -for free -in seconds! I guess I can get 10 CDs--NO!. Not gonna do that. I'd like to know who I should DISLIKE for this s..."
That's a really good question Roberta. I wouldn't know where to start, but maybe asking your library, also posting on Nora's website?
OK, I Googled and found this. Might be outdated by now, but after reading this, I believe the publisher of the In Death series is who you (we) need to contact.
To summarize, OverDrive has been working toward the goal of eliminating the WMA audiobook format for some time now, and they’ve convinced many publishers to provide OverDrive with MP3 versions of their titles. This is important because MP3 format is easier to download and works on devices that couldn’t handle WMA audiobooks. (Reminder: WMA audiobooks always had to be downloaded to a Windows computer first, and then transferred to a device. They couldn’t be downloaded to a Mac, and often couldn’t be transferred to Apple iPods, iPads, or iPhones due to publisher restrictions.
MP3 audiobooks, on the other hand, can be downloaded to Mac or Windows computers, transferred to MP3 players, or, using the OverDrive app, they can be directly downloaded to most smart phones and tablets.)
Unfortunately, not all publishers have agreed to provide their content in MP3 format. This means that some audiobook titles that are only available in WMA format will be removed from the OverDrive service beginning tomorrow morning (Tuesday, May 19). Because of this, we will be losing approximately 1,100 titles from out collection, including all or most audiobooks by the following popular authors: Nora Roberts, J. D. Robb, Lee Child, Greg Iles, Dean Koontz (25 of 47), John Lescroart, Jennifer Crusie, John Green, Kristin Hannah, Debbie Macomber, Sandra Brown, Fern Michaels, Iris Johansen, Mary Balogh, Linda Howard, Karen Robards, and Jayne Ann Krentz/Amanda Quick. Note that we still own over 7,000 audiobook titles that are available in MP3 format.
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Roberta, you can look at the publisher for the audiobooks and start there (Brilliance Audio). You may also contact J. D. Robb with your comments. Hopefully, one or both gives you a response and lets you know why the audiobooks are not in most online library inventories.
Randi wrote: "Roberta wrote: "I'm so in love with audiobooks & so accustomed to the ease of downloading -for free -in seconds! I guess I can get 10 CDs--NO!. Not gonna do that. I'd like to know who I should DI..."
Randi wrote: "Roberta wrote: "I'm so in love with audiobooks & so accustomed to the ease of downloading -for free -in seconds! I guess I can get 10 CDs--NO!. Not gonna do that.
I'd like to know who I should DI..."
Thanks Randi. I have listened to Lee Child's "Jack Reacher" series on audio - d/l from my library... LOVE IT:)
AHA! - Brilliance Audio was bought by AMAZON (the evil empire) in 2007. OF COURSE AMZN needs more $ than the pittance libraries would pay:( They sell the 'MP3 CDs' via other sellers - but looks like the actual Audio d/l is only available on AMZN. Bastards:( They want $15/month for the "Audible" membership via AMZN:( Complain to Amazon?! lolz They (along w GOOG & AAPL) run the flipping world:(
Hi - just to add another bit of information. My library is part of a "consortium" (w/12 other libraries). I was told that getting audio books is expensive (no surprise), but even when they pay for them what they are really doing is 'renting' (sort of) or leasing them for a specific period of time (and sometimes for a specific number of loans - but I'm not sure about this last part). Then the time expires and they have to decide how is the best way to use their funds.
