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Just curious... > It's the day after... what wisdom are you passing along to your kids?

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message 1: by Saiisha (new)

Saiisha | 544 comments Mod
Here's what I told my son - that ups and downs are inevitable - it's the nature of life - the ups are great, but it's the downs that give us a pause for perspective. And it's in the pause for perspective that we each, individually, can continue to reach out in love, rather than fear; make choices out of love, rather than fear.

What wisdom are you passing along to your kids?


message 2: by Barbara (new)

Barbara | 127 comments I shared this with my kids before - that change is the only thing we can count on and to embrace it as an opportunity. I agree with your statement to "reach out in love not fear". We have to realize that we are no longer individual countries with individual problems - we're becoming a world community and we need to be open to that. What affects one of us really affects all of us and together we can make this a wonderful world, but first we have to let go of the fear.


message 3: by Saiisha (new)

Saiisha | 544 comments Mod
Barbara wrote: "I shared this with my kids before - that change is the only thing we can count on and to embrace it as an opportunity. I agree with your statement to "reach out in love not fear". We have to realiz..."

Thank you for sharing your wisdom Barbara - what you said is so true - it's about time to erase the borders of our countries and kingdoms, and see the planet and all its creatures as one being, one organism. It is the same life that lives in us all - why do we fear and create hate? Why not reach out in love and compassion?


message 4: by Ian-Anthony (new)

Ian-Anthony Finnimore | 53 comments Greetings strangers :-)

Whilst the positive notions are to be without doubt commended my own take would be somewhat different.

If there are no borders - there is no sanctuary.

If I feel persecuted in area A then at least I have the option to escape to area B. If we are all under a global system there is no escape!

The constitution is as far as I can see the best form of protection as everyone is supposed to have the same rights. As much as I believe in kindness & compassion there are plenty of people who don't. Until they open their hearts there will never be a utopia.

I see it as a form of compassion towards ourselves & our loved ones to keep certain options on the table - admitting that there are always bad people - instead of trusting blindly because we want or imagine that good always wins.

There is a duality to life - you can't be overly cautious to the point of paranoia but you can't only expect that good intentions are on every ones mind.

A woman SHOULD be able to jog alone at night but is it really sensible not to take precautions?

I saw that Stephen Hawking has essentially told us not to talk to other planets if we find life - just in case .... :-)


message 5: by Barbara (new)

Barbara | 127 comments Well said.


message 6: by Saiisha (new)

Saiisha | 544 comments Mod
Ian-Anthony wrote: "Greetings strangers :-)

Whilst the positive notions are to be without doubt commended my own take would be somewhat different.

If there are no borders - there is no sanctuary.

If I feel persecu..."


Interesting perspective Ian-Anthony, and one that's taking into consideration the immediacy of our present conditions and circumstances. At which rate, it will be a loooooong while, if ever, for this planet to live in peace, for countries to erase their borders, and for people to see each other as brothers and sisters. Sad, but true.


message 7: by Ian-Anthony (new)

Ian-Anthony Finnimore | 53 comments Difference is not a bad thing - that's for sure.

Customs & cultures develop because of where they originate & also due to what is happening at that point in time.

It would be far more possible for everyone to agree to disagree - but also have a place of physical &/or spiritual sanctuary. Providing that everyone also has those options we can essentially mix when we feel like it but retreat without being classed as bigoted.

Each thinks that their own version of living is the "right " way - what they fail to see is that for it to be truly right for everyone is impossible ... but that's fine.

Peace is to me too harsh a word if that makes any sense, it's almost saying that everyone is on the same page which is not reality.

I always say & it maybe a stolen quote - there is a single race & it is the human race. It is impossible to be racist really but you can disagree with the way a culture lives.

That's your issue - not theirs :-)


message 8: by Barbara (new)

Barbara | 127 comments I don't think we're meant to live in utopia, but I do think we're to strive for growth and understanding among all cultures. There are times of great tradegy when we (as human beings) seem to be more open and compassionate toward each other, but then time passes and we go back to our more judgemental selves. Hopefully someday we will reach a place where we can respect all cultures.


message 9: by Saiisha (new)

Saiisha | 544 comments Mod
I don't at all think Peace means everyone's the same page. Peace is entirely personal, and differences are entirely natural - but to see differences as a reason to go to war is what feels wrong. No matter what people agree or disagree on, it's still unsettling that there's any reason for war, abuse, violence and killing. Sanctuary can be an answer, temporarily, but I hope there is hope for humanity to realize that differences could be respected and celebrated, not fought about.


message 10: by Ian-Anthony (new)

Ian-Anthony Finnimore | 53 comments I suppose if everyone has "inner" peace then the rest comes naturally - I imagined a more political agreement to rules.

Regan pointed out I think, that an outside threat would likely bring mankind together which is kind of sad but true to me.


message 11: by Saiisha (new)

Saiisha | 544 comments Mod
Ian-Anthony wrote: "I suppose if everyone has "inner" peace then the rest comes naturally - I imagined a more political agreement to rules.

Regan pointed out I think, that an outside threat would likely bring mankind..."


You're right Ian-Anthony, the sad-but-true statement of an outside threat bringing mankind together is playing out as we speak!!


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