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message 51: by skyla (new)

skyla (uwish_124) | 1296 comments Whoa! Nice one.


message 52: by lorien ‧͙⁺˚*・༓ଳ, Second-in-Command (new)

lorien ‧͙⁺˚*・༓ଳ | 9848 comments Mod
Thank you Samantha! Now I just need to wait for Emily to either tell me to make it more clear or approve.


message 53: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Oh yeah! I'm supposed to do this!

I think it's great! I shall add it right away! ^^


message 54: by lorien ‧͙⁺˚*・༓ଳ, Second-in-Command (new)

lorien ‧͙⁺˚*・༓ଳ | 9848 comments Mod
Woo hoo! Thank you Emily! :D


message 55: by skyla (new)

skyla (uwish_124) | 1296 comments Lorien Rhys wrote: "Thank you Samantha! Now I just need to wait for Emily to either tell me to make it more clear or approve."

You're welcome!


message 56: by lightbringer (new)

lightbringer (lightbringer099) | 153 comments Shifter - The elf that manifests this ability can shape shift Into any animal. From Alicorn to an elephant this changes form in a second and takes the ability of the animal. Super rare


message 57: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Aaaaaaas totally awesome as that sounds, I don't think that is actually like logically physically possible for an elf...


message 58: by lightbringer (new)

lightbringer (lightbringer099) | 153 comments AWW


message 59: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Yeah... Sorry! :/ I've actually thought of making that an ability! But it's just not something that would fit into the elven world...


message 60: by lightbringer (new)

lightbringer (lightbringer099) | 153 comments Drainer : The elf that manifests this ability can drain energy from other elves. Extremely rare


message 61: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
What kind of energy? Mental energy? Physical energy? And where does the energy go? Does it just get taken away from the victim of the ability?

And you'd need to add what affect using this ability has on the owner.


message 62: by lightbringer (new)

lightbringer (lightbringer099) | 153 comments It drains mental energy from the victim and a bit of physical energy from the owner.


message 63: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Okie dokie. Approved :3

Sorry I'm being such a problem mod lately. I'm having an issue in another group that's draining all positivity from me. Really I should take a pause from GR and have a chill pill but I keep trying to power through it. Which apparently I'm failing at, I realize as I read through my recent comments.


message 64: by lightbringer (new)

lightbringer (lightbringer099) | 153 comments (It's okay)


message 65: by Catherine (new)

Catherine (catherine_mooncakes) | 0 comments Diversification: The ability to change into any animal or insect. This ability is rare. It takes a lot of training. It may take centuries to master changing into an elephant or whale, whereas a fly can be learned over a few weeks. People with this ability are called Diversifiers.


message 66: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Mmmmmmmmmmmmagic!

That would be sorted into the "things elves can't physically or mentally do" category.


message 67: by Catherine (new)

Catherine (catherine_mooncakes) | 0 comments Pooh okay


message 68: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Sorryyyyyyy :/


message 69: by Catherine (new)

Catherine (catherine_mooncakes) | 0 comments It's alright I just hadn't thought it through, you're right.


message 70: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Dampening
Users are called Dampeners.

Dampening is a rare ability that uses similar energies to Enhancing. When a Dampener is near, they can make it harder for other people's ability to work, or slow them down. This is a light affect, and the other elf may not even notice, unless they're really close or the Dampener is concentrating on doing it deliberately. Ancients and more perceptive, experienced elves will probably notice at any distance. If the dampener is touching the other person, the affects are a lot stronger. If it is a particularly powerful Dampener, that's older and has been practicing their ability for a long time, they can even shut of someone's ability completely.

Other, advanced skills of dampening are focusing their energy to block one specific elves' power, dampening their own energy so no one else is affected, detecting other elves be the energy from their abilities, and singling out the energies from different types of abilities.

Other elves, especially Nobility, tend to be distrustful of Dampeners, because of their ability to block them. A few dampeners have chosen to live with Talentless, where they have no effect, rather than face the scorn.


message 71: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Mmmmm we already have an ability that's like that


message 72: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
It's a Drainer. They're basically the same thing...


message 73: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
We do? Kewl. Which message number is that, this thread has been glitchy for me...


message 74: by Catherine (new)

Catherine (catherine_mooncakes) | 0 comments #66


message 75: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Thx


message 76: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Don't drainers work with mental energy though?


message 77: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Yup

And you sorta need mental energy to use an ability so


message 78: by lorien ‧͙⁺˚*・༓ଳ, Second-in-Command (new)

lorien ‧͙⁺˚*・༓ଳ | 9848 comments Mod
Sanator - with this ability, your character has the chance of healing an elf's severe wounds. With practice, and a lot of ability training sessions, they will be able to heal a cut that was too deep or bruises that were caused from another elf's ability. An elf who has learned more about their ability for two hundred years will even be able to heal a sickness that has grown into an elf's system.
This ability is as rare as a Vanisher.


message 79: by Emily ~Autumn, Winter~, First-in-Command (new)

Emily ~Autumn, Winter~ (isabeefexer) | 6588 comments Mod
Bootifa! *clap clap* Approved!


message 80: by VGA (new)

VGA (themonarchofmusic) | 119 comments Vodator- The ability to create a room in the void. Ohhh man this is confusing. So basically, Vodators can create a pocket, of sorts, out of basically nothing. They can open up doorways out of anywhere to enter this room that they've created. However, they cannot leave anywhere, when they exit this room they end up at the place where they entered. After lots of practice, Vodators can have powers slightly similar to Conjurers. They can place a limited amount of items in the void that they can access at any time. This is limited to items only placed in this void. And after decades of practice, this void can become accessible to others who the Vodator has allowed. Keep in mind that this takes a long time to do. People allowed into this void will not be able to access items at any time.


Abby ~Sign Please~ | 1556 comments Divulgists: This ability is kind of rare (Like, enhancer rare, maybe?).

Divulgists can talk to animals. If this ability is used to much then it has a negative effect on talents (like telekinesis or night vision). In one day, hypothetically, if an elf were to have an hour conversation with, I dunno, a squirrel, then their telekinesis won't work as well. They may get a bit woozy and can't see straight for a bit. If an animal starts talking to them, and the elf doesn't start the conversation, it won't be as draining. They can talk with normal creatures (squirrels, pigs, bears, stuff like that,) and magical creatures (Unicorns, imps.)


message 82: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
This ability seems kind of unnecessary, since there are already characters in the books who have the capability of speaking other languages (polyglots)
I don't know if this is effective for all animals though, as the only example I can think of that wasn't between intelligent species was Councilor Clarette speaking to the Arthropleura. Polyglot communication may only work with animals that have sufficiently advanced language.
If you want a character who's able to communicate with squirrels and such, I'd suggest making them both a Polyglot and a Telepath. I've long suspected that Sophie's abilities to communicate with animals telepathically had more to do with her also being a polyglot than with her enhanced abilities.
If you do choose to use this, however, be careful to set logical limits on how advanced certain creatures thinking actually is. Like in the actual series, Silveny's thinking is incredibly complex, and Iggy's is not, with Goldie and Verdi in between. Very few creatures would actually be able to sustain an hour long conversation with an elf with out it getting really repetitive and uninteresting, because most animals only really think about their basic survival needs.


message 83: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Oops... Well, I think we should probably resolve some of the problems before we do approve it...

Where's Abby?


Abby ~Sign Please~ | 1556 comments Here's Abby!


message 85: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Scroll up to message 89.

Actually no. I'll just copy it down here.

This ability seems kind of unnecessary, since there are already characters in the books who have the capability of speaking other languages (polyglots)
I don't know if this is effective for all animals though, as the only example I can think of that wasn't between intelligent species was Councilor Clarette speaking to the Arthropleura. Polyglot communication may only work with animals that have sufficiently advanced language.
If you want a character who's able to communicate with squirrels and such, I'd suggest making them both a Polyglot and a Telepath. I've long suspected that Sophie's abilities to communicate with animals telepathically had more to do with her also being a polyglot than with her enhanced abilities.
If you do choose to use this, however, be careful to set logical limits on how advanced certain creatures thinking actually is. Like in the actual series, Silveny's thinking is incredibly complex, and Iggy's is not, with Goldie and Verdi in between. Very few creatures would actually be able to sustain an hour long conversation with an elf with out it getting really repetitive and uninteresting, because most animals only really think about their basic survival needs.


Abby ~Sign Please~ | 1556 comments I'm confused >.<


message 87: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Sorry. This was in response to the Divulgist ability.

Was that it, or is there something else that was confusing you?


Abby ~Sign Please~ | 1556 comments No, not that, why did Nobody say>•>
<•<
Emily told me to approve it a long time ago and I FORGOT"



message 89: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Oh yeah... What happened was that Nobody was going to approve it but then didn't.

I did not know this, so I came and DIDN'T approve it.

So lets just fix all the problems and then you can make your character and it will be fine


Abby ~Sign Please~ | 1556 comments Alrighty, so, what shall I fix?


message 91: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
I think the main issues are that it's redundant, because any animal/elf communication either wouldn't make sense within the keeper universe, or can already be achieved through existing abilities. So I'd just do that and make her (him?) either a polyglot or a polyglot/telepath.


message 92: by Jenna ~Koda and Dixie Sittin In A Tree~, I’m Emily! So I’m still the boss applesauce! (Jk jk jk XP) (new)

Jenna ~Koda and Dixie Sittin In A Tree~ | 1733 comments Mod
*butts in just cuz*

Mm but that's just a theory. Sophie can speak to animals because she's a very enhanced telepath, or at least that's what the hinted at explaination is, so being both a telepath and a polyglot most likely wouldn't extend the same results.

While I don't agree that it would be a redundant ability that can be achieved by combining other abilities, I think it would be pushing a few limits, such as the 'No Teleporters' limit. I think it goes almost without saying that abilities that Sophie has because of her very unique conception are basically off limits.

I've been reading back and around, and it looks like there have had to be a lot of ability changes due to overpowered characters that have as many abilities as Sophie, even though she is supposed to be one of a kind.

It's just my personal opinion that this ability not be approved because of it so unlikely nature (I mean no offense to you Abby, or Emily).

*rant over/poofs away*


message 93: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
It's not just Sophie though, it's also Councilor Clarette, which only further excaberates the problem of it not conforming to the actual plot because that was already a plot hole in the books, or at least something that wasn't adequately explained.


message 94: by Jenna ~Koda and Dixie Sittin In A Tree~, I’m Emily! So I’m still the boss applesauce! (Jk jk jk XP) (new)

Jenna ~Koda and Dixie Sittin In A Tree~ | 1733 comments Mod
I don't think Councilor Clarette can speak to animals, so much as influence them. What I got from her character was that she partially controlled the animals, not spoke to them.


message 95: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
It explicitly said that she was "whispering promises it's antennae would regrow", so she was definetely talking to them somehow. And I don't understand how being a polyglot enable her to partially control animals. Wouldn't someone have to be a Mesmer or something to control another creature?


message 96: by Jenna ~Koda and Dixie Sittin In A Tree~, I’m Emily! So I’m still the boss applesauce! (Jk jk jk XP) (new)

Jenna ~Koda and Dixie Sittin In A Tree~ | 1733 comments Mod
Well she could have been just speaking to them normally.

Clarette has long black hair to her waist and bronze skin. She is a very powerful Polyglot, possibly the most powerful one in the elvin world. She can use her talent to command animals, and can mimic languages and accents. (Copied from the wiki)

It says 'command'. The animals may be able to understand her, but I don't think she can understand them like how Sophie can.


message 97: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Keep in mind that the wiki was just made by readers. If I wanted to, I could go on there and write something. It doesn't really mean much when you're trying to determine specifics.

I do think it would make sense for her to be able to tell them things but not have it the other way around though.

If that's the case though, I still don't think there's any reasonable way for there to be full elf/animal communication without breaking the logic of the books. If there where divulgists out there who could just talk to them, there wouldn't have been any reason for the councilors to let Sophie train silveny. Their original reasoning for letting Vika Heks do it was her experience with unicorns and her abilitity as an Empath, and they switched to Sophie because of her "unique connection" or something, meaning there can't have been anyone else who could have spoken to her.

So unless you're making this ability extremely rare, to the point where whoever has it is the first one and didn't manifest til AFTER Sophie was put in charge of Silveny, it really doesn't make a lot of sense.


message 98: by Jenna ~Koda and Dixie Sittin In A Tree~, I’m Emily! So I’m still the boss applesauce! (Jk jk jk XP) (new)

Jenna ~Koda and Dixie Sittin In A Tree~ | 1733 comments Mod
I just asked Shannon what the dealio with Clarette is, just for closure, but I agree that this ability isn't a likely thing.


Abby ~Sign Please~ | 1556 comments Whoosh! Lots of reading!

Are you sure that Clarette was talking to that creature in their language? I know that when my cat throws up, I always pet her and tell her everything's gonna be okay. (I'm not insane, I swear! ;)) Perhaps Clarette was doing the same thing.

Also, I highly doubt squirells (or dogs, cats, Tigers, elephants, etc.) have their own language so, I don't think a Polyglot would be able to talk to them.

I could be wrong, last time I picked up a KOTLC book was in November (WHY DID I HAVE TO READ SO FAST!!). But I don't think this ability wouldnt be entirely redundant if we put a bit more restrictions on it so it actually worked in the books.


message 100: by *Amelia*, Protecter of Popsicles (new)

*Amelia* (StormyMage) | 658 comments Mod
Okay, I just reread that part, to make sure I understood it completely.

When she was whispering to it after it's antennae broke off, it could've been Elvin or something else. It doesn't specify, and Sophie is a polyglot so no clarification there.

But before that, she definitely commands it in some language that is most definitely not English/Elvin.

So she is talking to them somehow.

Based on what you have all said, I think it makes the most sense that she could talk to them but they couldn't talk back, even if that doesn't really match up with how being a Polyglot is shown to work in other places. Then again, Sophie doesn't seem to understand when she initially commands the arthropleura either, she just hears a clicking sound, so maybe it has to do with Clarette being an Ancient?

But Forkle also made it sound like Sophie could've tried to talk to them if she'd wanted, so there's that to.

And don't worry, Jenna, the fast reading problem can be easily solved. Just reread the books over and over and over until the next one comes out. Works for me. ;)


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