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Who will Sophie end up with?

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message 101: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey i ship keephie all the way!!!💗💗💗


message 102: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey keefster is aviclsly the only way to go!!!
💞💞💞

keefe 4 life💗💖


message 103: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey Megan wrote: "I've shipped Keefe and Sophoe since the beginning, so I hope they end up together! They're hilarious together!"

and i totally agree and they look so cute together!!!


message 104: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey Robyndo wrote: "I also like all the characters, however, I think the reason Sophie keeps putting off her confession to Fitz is due to the fact she can't accept her changing feelings toward Keefe. I honstly cried w..."

I totally didn't agree but that's ok I want Sophie to end up with Keefe but then I also want Keefe to myself💗


message 105: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey Sophitz wrote: "I honestly don’t think Fitz would get that angry if Foster-Keefe was a thing. Maybe a but at first, but that’s how he deals with grief not rejection. I really don’t know how he would act but I get ..."

no no no no
Keefster 4 everster💞💞💞


message 106: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey Emily wrote: "Sariya wrote: "Honestly, I feel as if Sophie might just end up with Fitz but then realize she ain't happy then she might go to Keefe...or not...OR SHE JUST BIPPTY BOPPTY BOOOM GOES TO KEEFE RIGHT A..."

i agree with that but skip the Fitz part duh Keefe4life💕


message 107: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey Colin wrote: "I still stand with Keephie though!"

like right there is no better choice Keephie all the way


message 108: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey Nina wrote: "Foster-Keefe! Fitz isn't quite right for Sophie, she needs someone a little more adventurous. Plus, I think Fitz is starting to like Linh. And, fine, I never liked Fitz as much...but Keefe has alwa..."

you totally right


message 109: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey Lisa wrote: "I feel like Keefe would be better for Sophie than Fitz. Keefe and Sophie kinda balance each other out and make each other better people (Mr. Forkle said something like that too, I believe). They're..."

you are so right like sophie and fitz will never happen!
DUH!!!


message 110: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey Lisa wrote: "I feel like Keefe would be better for Sophie than Fitz. Keefe and Sophie kinda balance each other out and make each other better people (Mr. Forkle said something like that too, I believe). They're..."


message 111: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey *Book Nerd* wrote: "I will only be happy if they all end up happy."

thats sorta agreeable


message 112: by [deleted user] (new)

I'm Team Sophitz 100% for sure from the beginning. A relationship built on that kind of trust, teamwork, balance, attraction, understanding, patience and support is a relationship that lasts!! Fitz isn't perfect but he is generally stable, considering all that goes on. Keefe is light and funny and protective and kind, but the level of connection is much lower, and Sophie has to mother him so much. Much more friction, it's a relationship that takes much more work, I think. I think serious and responsible on the outside, warm and loving on the inside Fitz is the match she should choose.


message 113: by Denim (new) - added it

Denim Bailey Keefe-Foster definitly. I mean Sophitz is awesome but Keefe-Foster is way better.


18BlueberryQueen Sophitz is amazing!!!
I would rather have Sophie and Tam end up together than Sophie and Keefe! And that’s with Keefe growing on me a little!

(Sorry I REALLLLY had to say that.)


message 115: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey I really hope that Sophie ends up with keefe it like their just meant for each other!
fitz is OK but keefe is totally better!


message 116: by [deleted user] (new)

Sophie - Fitz
keefe - Marella
Biana - tam
dex - Linh
that's my prediction


message 117: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey i hope its going to work like this
Sophie - keefe
Dex - Marella
Biana - Tam
Fitz - Linh


message 118: by mugs (new) - rated it 5 stars

mugs sophie will be with Keefe, it's written in the stars


message 119: by [deleted user] (new)

why do you say that


message 120: by mugs (new) - rated it 5 stars

mugs Just cause, LEGACY


Caroline Quirk Exactly!! Team Foster Keefe was made to win!


message 122: by [deleted user] (new)

maybe but don't lose hope in sophitz.


message 123: by Kendyl (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kendyl James Legacy confirmed that she's gonna be with Keefe. Just saying, with the way she wrote it, to me it's OBVIOUS she's gonna end up with Keefe.


message 124: by [deleted user] (new)

we shall see and still


message 125: by mugs (last edited Nov 22, 2019 01:55PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

mugs Keira wrote: "maybe but don't lose hope in sophitz."

do it was written in the stars that Sophie will be with Keefe and that (view spoiler)


message 126: by [deleted user] (new)

did she really brake up with Fitz or is that what you think happened?


message 127: by mugs (last edited Nov 19, 2019 04:22PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

mugs Only read this if you must and are ok with a big part of the book being spoiled also if you are a sofitz shipper



(view spoiler)


message 128: by [deleted user] (last edited Nov 19, 2019 04:23PM) (new)

when I must have forgot


message 129: by mugs (new) - rated it 5 stars

mugs I don't remember exactly when but it's in Legacy. It was near the end I think


message 130: by Sahiti (new)

Sahiti I am reading book 6 and I was freaking out when i heard kotlc Book 8 was coming and book9


message 131: by Sahiti (new)

Sahiti I ummm...... book nine is going to come out 2020 fall and NO ONE TOLD ME


18BlueberryQueen That’s when all the books come out is in fall. Also Shannon Said there would be a ninth book.


message 133: by Abbie (new) - added it

Abbie Maybe Sophie should stay single:)) jk but honestly can you imagine how powerful her kids could be??


message 134: by Abbie (new) - added it

Abbie I like your thoughts:)) I wonder what Shannon Messenger will do...or if she even knows what she'll do;)


message 135: by Monica (new) - rated it 5 stars

Monica Sariya wrote: "Honestly, I feel as if Sophie might just end up with Fitz but then realize she ain't happy then she might go to Keefe...or not...OR SHE JUST BIPPTY BOPPTY BOOOM GOES TO KEEFE RIGHT AWAY AND THEY LI..."

I desperatly wanted her to get with Tam. I thought they would look so cute together but I feel as though Shannon would want Dex to be with her and Tam to be with Marella


message 136: by [deleted user] (new)

I’m gonna lay down right here right now my issues with the Sophie and Keefe pairing and why I’ll never ship it. Lodestar was where it began really but here’s where it gets worse. To quote:

“Keefe wrapped his arm around Sophie. “Foster gets all worked up when she’s trying to protect me.”
“That’s not what this is about!” Sophie snapped, pulling away. “Though would it kill you to do the smart thing, just once, and actually listen to someone when they’re giving you good advice, instead of thinking you know everything and doing whatever you want?”
Keefe considered that for a second. “Yeah, that might actually kill me.”

[snip]

“Hey,” Keefe said, grabbing Sophie’s arm as she tried to stomp away. “I get it. You’re mad at me-”
“No, you don’t get it,” Sophie interrupted. “You claim we’re a team, and then you change the rules the first chance you get and drag me into whatever insane plan you’ve come up with and expect me to just be okay with it. Well, I’m not okay with it.”
“Yeah. I’m sensing that. But-”
“There’s no ‘but’ with this. Either you swear that you’ll be honest with me from now on- and I mean actually honest. No more surprises. Or...I can’t trust you anymore.”
“You can trust me,” he promised. “You heard Dimitar. My mom’s message told him to challenge me. So he would’ve done it whether I took the title of Mercadir or not, and things would’ve ended up exactly the same way.”
“Maybe,” Sophie agreed quietly. “But you didn’t know that when you demanded the title, so it doesn’t count.”
Keefe sighed. “I’m just trying to keep you safe. Is that really such a horrible thing?”
“I’m not some damsel in distress who needs you to swoop in-”
“I know that, Foster. Believe me, I’m super aware of how powerful you are. And brilliant. And special. And-”
“The sucking ups’ getting a bit desperate,” Ro warned him.
“I’m just saying she’s important,” Keefe insisted, before turning back to Sophie. “You’re the one who matters--I’m just some pawn in my mom’s creepy game. So if I see a way to take the hit and make sure you’re not the one covered in bandages, I’m going to do it. And I thought you of all people would understand that, considering how many times you’ve put yourself at risk, trying to protect your friends.”
“There’s protecting and there’s steamrolling, Keefe. You’re preplanning ways to betray me. You went there today knowing exactly what you were going to say. You’d done research- which you didn’t bother sharing with me. That’s not teamwork. That’s the Keefe Show, and we’ve already seen how that ends.”

[snip]

“Okay, two choices, Keefe told her, standing up and tilting her chin toward him. “You can tell me what’s wrong. Or I can put my Empath powers to work-but keep in mind, Option B will likely pick up on all kinds of other feelings.”
Sophie gave him her surliest scowl, but he didn’t back down.

[snip]

“I’ll be fine,” Sophie promised. If she’d had it her way, she’d be alone. She’d even tried asking Keefe to leave, but there was no getting rid of him.”

[snip]

In conclusion he repeatedly betrays her trust, doesn’t listen to her, does whatever he wants without caring that it hurts her, won’t give her space when she needs it, and blackmails her into confiding in him by threatening to bring up her crush on Fitz. This pairing is toxic and unhealthy and I will always hate it. So mad at Shannon for making Sokeefe a thing when it shouldn’t be in a million years. Even Tam would be a better choice for Sophie.


message 137: by [deleted user] (new)

I low-key ship Keefe x tam even though I know it's never going to happen XD
(It's for fun, I know they don't have any moments together. They would be cute tho ig?)


message 138: by Lizzie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lizzie Stone Sophfitz!


message 139: by Linsey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Linsey ok i ship Sophie and Keefe but she doesn't know who one of her biological parents and she cant ever tell anyone who her mother is so she will always be unmachable!
so i dont think she will ever be able to be matched with anyone so there is no longer a reason to ship Sophie with someone else!


message 140: by Retha (new)

Retha FITZ AND SOPHIE ARE JUST NOT MEANT TO BE
AND I THINK SHANNON MESSENGER THINKS THE SAME WAY I MEAN WHY BREAK APART PEOPLE WHO YOU THOUGHT WERE PERFECT TOGETHER?
I MEAN THIS IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL SIGNS THAT SOPHITZ IS JUST A BIG FAT NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
FITZ'S STUBBORNNESS HAS HURT SOPHIE A LOT LIKE A LOT A LOT
KEEFE IS JUST SO SUPPORTIVE EVEN THOUGH HE HAD A CRUSH ON SOPHIE HE TOTALY SUPPORTED SOPHITZ
WWHHHHHHY?
HE IS JUST SO PERFEEEEEEEEEECCCCT FOR SOPHIE
AND HONESTLY HE IS WAY MORE GOOD LOOKING THAN FITZ I MEAN WHO ARE YOU KIDDING
SOOOOOKKKKEFE IS JUST THE CUUUTEST SHIP EVA
IT BROKE MY HEART WHEN SHE AND WONDEBOY GOT TOGETHER
KKKEEEFE IS JUST THE PERFECTEST GUY EVA 4 SOPHIE
I HOPE I CHANGED YOUR MIND FOR THOSE STANING SOPHITZ THIS RELATIONSHIP ENDED BADLY AND IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN SOPHIE WILL JUST GET HURT MORE
DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT FOR SOPHIE
A LIFE FULL OF PAIN
SHE HAS ALREADY SUFFRED ENOUGH
SOKEEFE IS JUST MEANT TO BE
CUTEST SHIPPPP EVA ON PLANET EARRRTH
#SOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFE EEEEEEE
I LOVVVVVVE THIS SHIP SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH


message 141: by Lizzie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lizzie Stone Retha wrote: "FITZ AND SOPHIE ARE JUST NOT MEANT TO BE
AND I THINK SHANNON MESSENGER THINKS THE SAME WAY I MEAN WHY BREAK APART PEOPLE WHO YOU THOUGHT WERE PERFECT TOGETHER?
I MEAN THIS IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL S..."

I still ship Fitz and Sophie because Keefe reminds me too much of an old friend and I still Fitz is better for her. Fitz may not hurt her and he can work on it. They do miss each other at the end of Book 8


message 142: by venus (new)

venus minerva I shipped Sophie and Fitz at first but as i read more, I feel like it's going to sink. I think in the end Sokeefe will last.
I also think (and hope) Fitz will be with Linh.


message 143: by Evie (new) - rated it 4 stars

Evie I ship Fitzphie because

1. They're cognates, they tell eachother things they dont tell anyone else. They have a very unique connection and they trust eachother alot

2. Fitz is the fist person to tell Sophie that he loves her, and that he thinks she is beautiful, other than Grady and Edaline, but that is different

3. Fitz clearly cares alot about her feelings. When she talks about crush cuffs, he offers to go get some for her immediately if she wants them, and also says he will go at her pace throughout their relationship. He understands that she doesn't feel ready, and relises when he is pushing her to go to fast, and apologises

4. Alot of people say that Fitz doesn't really love her, and just gets her lots of gifts, but thats not true. Different people have different ways if showing their affection, and this is his. He also gave her Alvars Foxfire award to throw of the staircase in Nightfall, even though he probaly wanted to do that himself as he hates his brother so much

5. He wants her to be happy. He knows that as she hasnt grown up in the lost cities, she dosnt completely understand matchmaking. He knows that elves live forever, and so she will live all eternity being bullied for being a bad match if she dosnt register, and he dosnt want that to happen to her

6. The one night Fitz took his anger out on her in Legacy ( everblaze dosnt count, his dad had basicly just died!) had clearly been stressful for him. He hates Alvar so much because of what Alvar did to Sophie, and he wants to protect her. That is why he is so mad, becuse he cant believe Sophie let Alvar get away, when he could be in a prison where he wouldn't be able to hurt her. He feels guilty about Alvar getting away in Flashback, so part of his anger is directed at himself. He also believes in Sophie so much that he thinks that they would of been able to take him on as Cognates, which they would have

7. Fitzs s anger is partley Alden and Dellas fault. They should recognise that their son has anger management problems, and is getting mad at Sophie, eventhough they clearly know he likes her

8. Fitz has a personality! He is caring and sweet, and willing to fight hard for what he believes in. He feels alot of guilt, and his way of handling that is anger, like with Grady and Brant. If he didn't direct his feeling at somone, his mind would break from dwellings on the grief

9. They have been through alot together. They were both attacked by the neverseen in Flashback, and Fitz is the one who brought her to the list cities. As is mentioned in the books, Fitz is the only one who truly understands what she went through that day

10. Fitz does not only like her out of jelousy! It says he started liking her in Alluvatarrre, which js when he almost died. He relised then, that if he did die then he would never end up with Sophie. That probably exposed feelings he had been hiding from himself until he properly realised what he would lose if he didnt make it back

11. Sophie has liked him since book one, thay are meant to be!


message 144: by Evie (new) - rated it 4 stars

Evie Not me!


message 145: by Lizzie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lizzie Stone Me neither!


message 146: by Kendyl (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kendyl James Sophie and Keefe are literally meant to be and I won't even entertain the thought of Sophitz. DISGUSTING!! Fitz literally only likes Sophie because she's the "cool elf" or whatever. He just thinks they would be a power couple or what not and he doesn't actually like her for who she is. **SPOILER ALERT If you haven't finished Flashback DO NOT READ ON** As soon as he found out she was unmatchable, their relationship instantly became conditional because he basically says I won't be with you if you don't find out who your parents are. HE. SUCKS. End of Story.

Now my man Keefe on the other hand:)))))) He completely understands her because they both have lost their family in one way or another. He also feels her emotions (LITERALLY) and helps her understand them and more about herself. HE. HAS. DEPTH. Which can't be said for He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named. Keefe's personality is to die for and he and Sophie are perfect together. Who does she turn to with her issues???? I'll give you a hint it's NOT FITZ. Also, I would like to point out that Keefe doesn't give two craps that she's unmatchable. He's honestly probably here for it because it will piss off his parents and everyone. He said in Legacy, "It won't matter to the people who matter." Or something along those lines. WE LOVE THAT.

At the end of the day... no matter who Sophie ends up with I won't be satisfied because all of these characters are fictional and that sucks. I only ship Sophie with Keefe because I can't be with him:( Also, MY BOY DESERVES TO BE HAPPYYYYY!!! He has given so much, I just think it's time he gets something that he truly, deeply cares about. HE LOVES SOPHIE!! And deep down she knows she loves him too. What more can you ask for?

I swear some Sophitz shippers bouta be like "bUt ThErE cOgNaTeS." PSH I don't give a crapppp. Sophie is so uncomfy around him and he blames her for literally everything. TOXIC!!!!

In conclusion, Sokeefe for life and I will be writing that on my grave, count on that.


message 147: by Lizzie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lizzie Stone Well let's just say I don't agree. I don't like Keefe very much and I don't think Sokeefe is a good relationship. For one thing, Keefe is always breaking Sophie's trust. I'm also biased because Keefe reminds me of a friend that was toxic and not good for me so I can NEVER ship Sokeefe


message 148: by Evie (new) - rated it 4 stars

Evie I agree!


message 149: by Adiya (new)

Adiya  Pai To be honest I am so TEAM FOSTER-KEEFE because Keefe would do anything for Sophie and... Fitz seems to be interested in Linh.
And although Sophie has a crush on Fitz I think Fitz and Linh end up together. But if Keephie is really happening then what about Bianna?She has a crush on Keefe right?


message 150: by Marlow (new) - rated it 5 stars

Marlow Sophie is *probably* going to end up with Keefe, but I think it would be much better if she stayed away from that stuff seeing as she doesn't seem ready. Plus, Kam makes so much more sense than Sokeefe.


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