The Fitz Fandom discussion
LODESTAR DISCUSSION/SPOILERS/ do not click on if you haven't read Lodestar.
Now that I think about it, I don't actually know...I think it is on earth! Why don't we ask Shannon Messenger?
Georgia wrote: "Ramya wrote: "I KNOW!!!!!
How do you think Amy (Sophie's little sister) will react to Sophie's new family/friends.
Do you think Amy will like one of the boys?
Just asking because the thought has..."
That would be awesome!!!!!!!
How do you think Amy (Sophie's little sister) will react to Sophie's new family/friends.
Do you think Amy will like one of the boys?
Just asking because the thought has..."
That would be awesome!!!!!!!
The Lost Cities ARE on Earth-they are just hidden from humans.
(We don't know exactly where they are, and Mrs. Messenger said that making a map or something like that would be sort of like betraying the elves, so she's not going to do that)
(We don't know exactly where they are, and Mrs. Messenger said that making a map or something like that would be sort of like betraying the elves, so she's not going to do that)
Yup Alden and Della are about 100years apart!!!AND DO U GUYS REMEMBER THE SLEEPOVER SCENE WHEN EVERYONE WAS SLEEPING AND THEY WERE SPEAKING TELEPATHICALLY AND SOPHIE THOUGHT HIS MIND WENT QUIET AND SHE WAS NEARLY SLEEPING BY THE TIME HE ADDED "i'll always be here if you need me"
Like isnt that the sweetest????!!!!
Yeah I totally remember that! I love everything Sophitz! Do you guys remember that scene where Keefe is talking about the love square thing? Does that mean that Fitz has been hinting at it to his best friend before Keefe joined the Neverseen?
Um... I'm pretty sure FITZ didn't tell Keefe; Keefe already knew. I mean, Keefe is an Empath, right?
Yeahh...Although I think he probably more knew about that from Sophie. I think he realizes she has a crush on Fitz.
In Lodestar, it's starting to look like Keefe has a crush on Sophie, too, and that worries me.
And about the Dex shipping-more people are into Dex than a lot of us think. I know a Sodex shipper IRL and she has some good points. And a lot of people point out the thing about them being "cousins" but I don't really see that as a valid reason since Sohpie's adopted.
It does bring up some interesting points though. If bad matches are seen as so horrible in the Lost Cities because they're genetically wrong, and genetics are such a high point in their society, I wonder if the way some elves see bad matches is at all comparable to the way we see incest...
And also, have any of you heard the theory that Keefe and Sophie are siblings? My friend brought it up with me and I'm not at all sure what to think about it...
OK, here's the deal: I've always known that Keefe has a crush on Sophie (I'm good at reading people, I really am) since Exile-and it becomes even more obvious in Everblaze- but from Lodestar, I think Keefe may have been crushing on our Moonlark from Day 1 (he kept the midterms present she gve him)
BUT
I've always known that Sophie has a crush on Fitz, and since Sophie and Fitz are perfect for each other, I've always shipped
SOPHITZ!!!!!!
And yeah, for some time I thought, "What if Keefe and Sophie are siblings?" But I ruled it out because there is No Way Lady Gisela was with the Black Swan (if she really was part of it, I'm horrible at predicting-and usually, I'm great at ruling out theories that are false) or Lord Cassius, for that matter, since he's TRYING TO JOIN THE BLACK SWAN-and you don't need to join the Black Swan if you are already part of it-unless, of course, it's part of his cover.
All in all, I think that it's very unlikely that Keefe and Sophie are siblings-and there seriously is no way she's related to Fitz-UNLESS...
Sophie's mother or father is a VACKER...
*Moans*
BUT
I've always known that Sophie has a crush on Fitz, and since Sophie and Fitz are perfect for each other, I've always shipped
SOPHITZ!!!!!!
And yeah, for some time I thought, "What if Keefe and Sophie are siblings?" But I ruled it out because there is No Way Lady Gisela was with the Black Swan (if she really was part of it, I'm horrible at predicting-and usually, I'm great at ruling out theories that are false) or Lord Cassius, for that matter, since he's TRYING TO JOIN THE BLACK SWAN-and you don't need to join the Black Swan if you are already part of it-unless, of course, it's part of his cover.
All in all, I think that it's very unlikely that Keefe and Sophie are siblings-and there seriously is no way she's related to Fitz-UNLESS...
Sophie's mother or father is a VACKER...
*Moans*
OMG why no that can't be an option!! Shannon wouldn't be that evil!! I don't think she would develop her relationship with fitz so much if she was going to drop a bomb like that. I honestly think her biological parents is either forkle #rip or one of the members of black swan... BUT IF LORD CASSIUS is her father that would be okay too because I feel like it would really help Sophie to have some blood family in the lost cities and finally have that mystery over with. She better find out in the next book!!!
Amelia wrote: "I don't know. I think that Fitz really just doesn't know what to do about girls, and he's slowly starting to figure it out. (Like that last scene... I LITERALLY slapped the book when Keefe interrup..."
You slapped the book? Haha-I *almost* did, but I didn't want to hurt my precious Lodestar.
Yeah, I'm weird like that.
You slapped the book? Haha-I *almost* did, but I didn't want to hurt my precious Lodestar.
Yeah, I'm weird like that.
I think she might secretly be mad but realistically like she wasn't gonna live alone and until yesterday she couldn't remember Sophie existed so she doesn't have any right to be mad. Also she's like 11 but she was really annoying in the 1st book or at least she annoyed me so I'm hoping she's changed.
Well, I know from other books in which the main characters are brothers and sisters, that siblings may be annoying, but they share a kinship or bond, and really love each other, so I really hope to see sister bonding in the sixrh book!!!!!!
(Personally, I thought Amy was kinda funny)
(Personally, I thought Amy was kinda funny)
Yeah... Mostly I think she's going to be to freaked out to really worry about that a lot, and it will to be a lesser extent than it would've been if Sophie had new siblings, there might be some painful moments with her calling them "Mom" and "Dad" and such.And about that whole "Sophie is a Vacker theory"
I like it. That would be horrifyingly perfect. And I TOTALLY believe that Shannon would do it, spending forever on the Sophitz relationship or no. The one thing that makes me doubt it though is that Sophie doesn't seem to have any family resemblance to the Vackers at all, so there's that.
And about the whole Sophie-is-a-Sencen theory, while I never really bought into it that much, it did give me a couple ideas... the most notable of which is that Sophie's parents might not have been with the Black Swan. They could've stolen DNA from basically anyone. Or maybe I just made that up to make some of my other theories Make Sense. Idk. But it is possible.
*GASPGASPGASPGASPGASP*
WHAT IF SHE'S RELATED TO STINA!?!?!
Amelia wrote: "Yeah... Mostly I think she's going to be to freaked out to really worry about that a lot, and it will to be a lesser extent than it would've been if Sophie had new siblings, there might be some pai..."Yeah I thought about that and I was so grossed out about it- maybe the reason Stina hates Sophie so much is because she likes Fitz or Keefe OR BOTH I feel like that sibling ship wouldn't go very far and even though Keefe has obvious feelings for Sophie he would still learn to love her as a sister instead of as a girlfriend.
Yeah... I don't think that Amy is going to do anything with the love triangles except maybe end up shipped to one of Dex's brothers.And yeah, I think you're right about that. I've heard some people say Stina likes Fitz, and thy might be right about it, I don't know. But I think that if any of the Stina ships happen, it's most likely to be with Dex.
That said, I don't really think any of them will happen though, soo... *shrugs*
Amelia wrote: "Yeah... I don't think that Amy is going to do anything with the love triangles except maybe end up shipped to one of Dex's brothers.And yeah, I think you're right about that. I've heard some peop..."
yeah I can't exactly see anyone (or at least any of sophie's friends) falling for Stina after what she did-unless she makes up for it in a BIG way. It'd be funny to see Amy end up with one of Dex's brothers and see another side of them... OR MAYBE HIS SISTER LEX... oh well we'll see...
I KNOW-but for some reason, I think Amy will shake up the love square (or whatever or is).
Maybe she'll make some testing comments like Biana does-oh!
I think Amy and Biana will get along really well!!!!!!!
Maybe she'll make some testing comments like Biana does-oh!
I think Amy and Biana will get along really well!!!!!!!
I think that they won't. I don't know why, but Biana doesn't seem like the Amy type if that makes any sense...
"The star only rises at Nightfall..." (page 393, Lodestar hardcover)
What do you think THAT means?
What do you think THAT means?
Ramya wrote: "The part whereMr. Forkle dies?
Yeah, I really love all the characters, especially Mr. Forkle, and it was so sad when he died.
[spoilers removed]"
I cried when that happened!!!!!! How could he DO that to her!! Will she never find out who her parents are?? and Squall!!!! That came as a total surprise!
I almost cried too--it just didn't feel real, and then it hit me that while Mr. Forkle is gone, he says he has some sort of backup plan for Magnate Leto-I don't know if that means Mr. Forkle is somehow alive or if it means that Mr. Forkle is dead but he planned ahead for his death just in case.
And no, it doesn't mean that his secrets are lost-remember that he gives Sophie 'the thing that he keeps everything he knows in so he doesn't forget.' (I forgot what it was already so I'm going to completely reread Lodestar and annotate the book-stay tuned in case I find any major hints!)
Also, doesn't Tiergan/Granite know who Sophie's parents are?
And no, it doesn't mean that his secrets are lost-remember that he gives Sophie 'the thing that he keeps everything he knows in so he doesn't forget.' (I forgot what it was already so I'm going to completely reread Lodestar and annotate the book-stay tuned in case I find any major hints!)
Also, doesn't Tiergan/Granite know who Sophie's parents are?
ratherbereading wrote: "Ok I'm not waiting for anyone to respond.... Just don't click the spoilers link if you haven't read lodestar!!!!LODESTAR SPOILERS:
OMG!!! I cannot believe Fitz nearly kissed Sophie!!!! (I again..."
hahahahah!!!!! I laughed and cried and threw the book and then made sure my book was okay. I finished it within like 3 hours... I will admit, but if you tell anybody i will have to kill y'all..... i do see sophitz happening and i kinda do like it, i am a mess... and what the heck shannon are you trying to kill all of us with the cliff hangers????
ratherbereading wrote: "Ok I'm not waiting for anyone to respond.... Just don't click the spoilers link if you haven't read lodestar!!!!LODESTAR SPOILERS:
OMG!!! I cannot believe Fitz nearly kissed Sophie!!!! (I again..."
OMG!!!!!
I wanted to scratch my eyes out with a prattles pin after i read it!!!
It does answer some questions though...
Fitz IS #1!I cant believe some people think that Keefe and Sophie might happen cause the only way for that to even be a thing is for Fitz to die
Or for some random plot twist that I hope will never happen. I mean, SOPHITZ FOREVER and if not, no more Keeper for me. No not really. I will always love Keeper no matter what, but I will probably be super angry for a while. But then I'll just read it again. Also, I love writing cliffhanger endings or plot twists. I just don't like reading them as much.
Malayna wrote: "Or for some random plot twist that I hope will never happen. I mean, SOPHITZ FOREVER and if not, no more Keeper for me. No not really. I will always love Keeper no matter what, but I will probably ..."
I have the exact same sentiments, Malayna!
I have the exact same sentiments, Malayna!
ratherbereading wrote: "Why? werent you rooting for ift? (Except the Keefe interupting part of course)"For Fitz to die or that Keefe might end up with Sophie?
Yeah. I don't know, I can still see Sokeefe maybe happening. (Although I hope it doesn't.)But if it does, I'm seriously wondering how that's going to work with the cognate thing...
Ooooh, that’s a good point. But I also wonder if them “dating” would at all affect their Cognatedom. (I think that’s a word.) I mean, aren’t you allowed to have a few secrets from each Other?
Haha, they don't, at least not yet. :)Fitz and Sophie haven't told each other that they like each other.
It's coming, though...
I'm reading it!!!!!!It's SO good!
I'm currently confused as to who i ship anymore.
I may not be a Sophitz shipper anymore, but idk.






How do you think Amy (Sophie's little sister) will react to Sophie's new family/friends.
Do you think Amy will like one of the boys?
Just asking because the thought has crossed my mi..."
Omg imagine if Amy has a crush on Fitz and sophie's just like
"He's mine"