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Asterin Blackbeak ~ Character Disscussion
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Sep 20, 2016 01:10AM
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I loved that Asterin was the only one to stand up to Manon and that she did so out of complete faith and devotion. Having learned her story I am in awe of her strength and will. She is definitely someone I would want as my Second and throughout the books I feel inspired by her :)
Every time it mentioned the stillborn witching and the hunter dude in EoS, I just broke down crying.
im not sure how to feel about her, i think she is very loyal to manon and her 13 though
I really feel for Asterin (at times even more than Manon) what with all the hate from Grandma Douchebag. I mean, why? And I kind of still hope, like a pointless belief a.k.a. au headconon, that that hunter is still alive somewhere, I,don't know how, and they unite. Even if Asterin meets him in his last moments. And I break down bad at the part where she says that the hunter waited every day of his life for her, never marrying, never moving on and just died after that. It reminds me of Gone, gone, gone by Philip Phillips. Then that Matron had to pile up her sadness with the witchling, her mark and never letting Manon feel for Asterin.
I would -love- an Asterin novella. Or even a short story. In my opinion, she's one of the best characters Maas has created. There is so much depth to her, and I admire her indomitable spirit. I think her, Aelin, Lysandra, and Ansel would be a blast! I'd include Manon in that group, but she needs to lighten up a bit, first.
^^ Me, too. The only thing is that we know Asterin like the person we look up to. I want to know her like my best friend, but Maas has kind of sidetracked her. I don't like that she only appears for Manon's benefit and I want to really, really know her.
I've had this feeling for a while (since book 4) that Manon's Grandmother lied about her child, and that there is a possibility that Elide's mother/grandmother was actually Asterin's child. That would explain the blue blood in her veins, and why Abraxos took to her so well, she is from the same blood line as Manon, as she and Asterin are cousins.
Fangirl wrote: "Natalie wrote: "I've had this feeling for a while (since book 4) that Manon's Grandmother lied about her child, and that there is a possibility that Elide's mother/grandmother was actually Asterin'..."Just checked the book (page 502), and it says:
' "She was stillborn. I waited to hear that cry of triumph, but there was only silence. Silence, and then your grandmother..." She opened her eyes. "Your grandmother struck me. She beat me. Again and again. All I wanted was to see my witchling, and she ordered them to have her burned instead. She refused to let me see her." ' - I think that maybe her witchling could have survived, but Manon's grandmother lied about it, and maybe the child did not bleed blue or maybe was deemed to be too human, and that was the reason Asterin was told that she was dead. Or could be that as they were taking the child away, it came to life and was smuggled away. Just a theory, but one thats been with me since I first read 'Queen of Shadows'!
Woahhh! That would be awesome. Not so much for Malide shippers, though.
Am I understanding correctly that every witchling born of a witch is female (unless you're a *rare* Crochan prince)? --so then who sires the witchlings? Men? (on the continent of Erilea, there's not really any other male population except mortal men....) So then every witchling born of a witch is half witch (which is a Fae-Valg mixture) and another race, but they always take after mom, and are full-witch if claimed by the witches?
Or do witches also have some/just-as-many male babes? (and are therefore related and can hardly reproduce with their own witch-kind?)
@_@;;;; Where's Ghislaine when we need her?
I hardcore wish Ghislaine could be my best friend, though, she's so ADORABLE.
We need an Ask Ghislaine thread. But does anyone know!
@Empress_of_BooksI couldn't agree more *high five*
Mmhm.So...back to Asterin.
Witches essentially only have female babies?
Unless you're a Crochan royal and can have the occasional princeling?
Le wrote: "Mmhm.So...back to Asterin.
Witches essentially only have female babies?
Unless you're a Crochan royal and can have the occasional princeling?"
Exactly. I don't get how a male witch works.
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I honestly don't think anyone knows.
Let's make an Ask Ghislaine thread so next time Sarah goes on tour we have a list of things to ask her.
The Crochan Prince though??? I need more on him.
He doesn't exist. He's dead.
Don't know bro, probs 2
Maybe only the royalty can breed males? Because even if they are just really rare, what are the odds that the royal family had one?
BookishSerendipity wrote: "Maybe only the royalty can breed males? Because even if they are just really rare, what are the odds that the royal family had one?"yh good thinking
Empress_of_Books wrote: "@Tristen, Albert Einstein exists and he's dead. People still remember him. you don't have to be alive to exist."Um, no. The actual definition of exist is to be alive.
I think both Fangirl and Empress implied 'exist' in a more abstract sense.
Oh god, Asterin is definitely one of my favourite characters. I love that she always stood up to Manon about what she thought was right. Asterin and Manon fit so well together, I love them both.
Annis wrote: "Oh god, Asterin is definitely one of my favourite characters. I love that she always stood up to Manon about what she thought was right. Asterin and Manon fit so well together, I love them both."I love Asterin; she's one of my favourite characters in this series. I agree, she and Manon are great together. Asterin is so loyal and does what she thinks is right, but she's also so fierce yet cares more than the other members of the Thirteen do- at least, that's how I see her.
Okay then this discussion hasn't been updated in LITERALLY FOREVER so I'm just gonna sob here in the corner while I eat cake and re-read that one part in KoA
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Zeyah wrote: "Okay then this discussion hasn't been updated in LITERALLY FOREVER so I'm just gonna sob here in the corner while I eat cake and re-read that one part in KoA"😂...I think I'll join you Zeyah.
Zeyah wrote: "Okay then this discussion hasn't been updated in LITERALLY FOREVER so I'm just gonna sob here in the corner while I eat cake and re-read that one part in KoA"SAMEEEE Asterin is one of my fav characters
I have to say that what Manon's grandmother did to Asterin was horrible.
Danielle's Reading wrote: "I have to say that what Manon's grandmother did to Asterin was horrible."I agree 100%
Asterin was and will forever be one of my favourite characters in ToG. SHE WAS GREAT and absolutely did NOT deserve to be treated the way she was by Manons grandmother. I imagine her being happy now, in the cottage with her hunter (it was a hunter, right? Or am I senile?). She deserves a happy ending, a happy ever after
Karro wrote: "Asterin was and will forever be one of my favourite characters in ToG. SHE WAS GREAT and absolutely did NOT deserve to be treated the way she was by Manons grandmother. I imagine her being happy ..."
Same! I adored Asterin.
She is a steady and loyal friend, ally, and sister-at-arms. She sticks up for Manon in ways no ever does. And her backstory is just so sad. I wish she'd have met a happier ending
Feyre ♥ wrote: "Asterin Blackbeak is officially my favorite character.[spoilers removed]"
I loved Asterin so much. And same- I had to put the book down, I was crying so hard at that part...
yeeeees exactly, Asterin was my all time favourite and then... and then... gaaaaah
