NoK - Chapter Four - No Spoilers

[Lee, High Priest of Shadow]

Chapter Four Discussion Thread. Please use Spoiler Tags,

[Scott]

This tied into HOC and confirms something I thought back then which is even more obvious now.

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Cutter went over to the nearest water cask, found a ladle. He dipped it full and walked back. ‘He called himself Traveller.’ ‘I know him,’ she whispered, then shuddered. ‘Not my memories. Dancer’s. Dancer knew him. Knew him well. They were… three. It was never just the two of them— did you know that? Never just Dancer and Kellanved . No, he was there. Almost from the very beginning. Before Tayschrenn, before Dujek, before even Surly.’


Absolutely no doubt Traveller is Daseem and that he lives. Interesting for the rest of the series what that means.
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[Gonzalo]

Have you finished the main series scott?

[Scott]

Gonzalo wrote: "Have you finished the main series scott?"

No I'm reading The Bonehunters now. I'm doing the recommended reading order and this group read corresponded to when I was read for NOK. I'm not sure what the schedule is for Crimson Guard but if I'm through TBH and RG I'll join.

Thus why I use lots of spoiler tags. A lot of people read this after GOTM.

Have you finished it?

[Gonzalo]

That's pretty cool. I was going to comment on traveller but I wasn't sure if you had finished yet

[Scott]

Gonzalo wrote: "That's pretty cool. I was going to comment on traveller but I wasn't sure if you had finished yet"

Thanks for not.....assuming you did from Bonehunters.

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‘Not at all, you Oponn-blessed madman – my only friend left breathing – not at all. It is the cult, you see. The Lord of Tragedy. Dessembrae. That is Dassem Ultor. I don’t doubt you understood that, but consider this – for there to be a cult, a religion, with priests and such, there must be a god. A living god.’

‘Dassem Ultor is ascended?’

‘I believe so, although he is a reluctant god. A denier, like Anomander Rake of the Tiste Andii. And so he wanders, in eternal flight, and in, perhaps, eternal hunt as well.’

So I'm assuming this is like Bug and Mael from Midnight Tides. The start of Crimson Guard shows Traveller so I expect I'll be getting a lot more info in the main series and empire.
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[Gonzalo]

Yeah for sure

[Lee, High Priest of Shadow]

Put it this way. After reading two books of the Kharkanos trilogy, which happens a hundred thousand years in the past, I am starting to have my suspicions who Traveller is.

[Gonzalo]

Haha now that's interesting I am going to read those after ICE

[Lee, High Priest of Shadow]

If you wait for the last, you can blast through them. I waited a year or so between one and two and it left me realising I should have re-read.

[Gonzalo]

When is the last one coming out?

[Lee, High Priest of Shadow]

Scott wrote: "Gonzalo wrote: "Have you finished the main series scott?"

No I'm reading The Bonehunters now. I'm doing the recommended reading order and this group read corresponded to when I was read for NOK. I..."

I think you can read RoftCG and Reapers Gale at the same time. Two completely different story lines.

[Lee, High Priest of Shadow]

Gonzalo wrote: "When is the last one coming out?"

Don't think it has been announced yet. Was 4 years between 1 and 2! I will probably re-read when three is due out. There is SO much story there, as usual, it takes two reads to absorb it all. The fascinating thing is linking it all to The Fallen. All those ancient characters in Fallen are young-ish in Kharkanos. I was never a big fan of the Andii, find them dour. Whilst they are not a barrel of laughs in this series, it is a fascinating history.

We digress, I haven't even read chapter 4 of this book yet. Will have to wait till lunchtime.

[Lee, High Priest of Shadow]

Well, that was certainly an action packed chapter.
What with the Fisherman being swamped by the Raiders potentially opening up Malaz island to their attack. I thought it interesting that they discussed that the Raiders had been held back all this time because of the mage power on the island, and with Surly's mage cull to consolidate power, had left the island weakened defensively.

The attack on Dassem in Y'Ghatan shows the lethalness of Surly and her political planning. This unsurping of Kellanved has been a long time coming, if you think how long Temper has been hiding as a gate guard.

Looking forward to a meeting of minds. Also finding out that Tempers last battle will be for Dancer.

[Scott]

Lee wrote: "Scott wrote: "I think you can read RoftCG and Reapers Gale at the same time. Two completely different story lines.."

Sure what's 2000 pages........ :)

[Lee, High Priest of Shadow]

LOL, i just realised I posted the same suggestion in the other thread. Getting repetitive.

[Eugenio]

Chapter 4 was fantastic.

Sad to see the fisherman go down. Didn't know his story, but who couldn't get behind a guy that just wanted to go out rowing. Let him row his boat!!

Kiska's aunt has a much larger role in the protection of Malaz. Interesting to see, and I hope we get some more of her story.

Temper's history with Dassem was interesting and helped provide the background work for when I already met Dassem over in BotF. If I ever do reread the whole Malazan series, it would have to be in the recommended order.

My interest is piqued and I look forward to the finish!!